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Should I accept proposal if I've never met his daughters?

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ZanySheep · 15/03/2026 08:07

We have talked about marriage although bf is still going through his divorce. 3.5 years in, we live together with my kids (they call him step dad) he's met everyone on my side we are very very happy . His ex has said to him I will never be a part of their dd's lives (19&21yrs) still I have never met them because of this . They were living together when we met. They are still married going thru divorce. I have a feeling he will propose when divorce comes through.. my question is should I say yes if I've never met his girls ? I've met his parents , some friends. They live local he sees them every week , gives them money still . He's a brilliant dad . What are everyone's thoughts ?..

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TwistedWonder · 16/03/2026 13:15

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:57

His options aren’t just cheat or not cheat are they? The two decent available options are…

  1. he can leave the relationship and start one with the new person
  2. if he doesn’t want to do that because of kids and responsibilities, then he can stay in the relationship

but doing option 2 doesn’t mean he ‘has’ to have an affair does it?! That’s a choice. And imo a selfish one. No one ‘has’ to have sex. Put your kids first.

Completely agree with you. We don’t pick and mix or morals depending on whether the person in the wrong is related to us or not.

If any friend or relative of mine was having an affair k would tell them (and have done) exactly what I thought of their behaviour.

I certainly would reserve judgement on their affair partner too.

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:57

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:48

As I said there is loads of different reasons people cheat .
Like my daughters friends dad that found himself married to a bully , if your son was in that situation & met someone else you may think differently, & I’m sure you wouldn’t think him a bad person .

His options aren’t just cheat or not cheat are they? The two decent available options are…

  1. he can leave the relationship and start one with the new person
  2. if he doesn’t want to do that because of kids and responsibilities, then he can stay in the relationship

but doing option 2 doesn’t mean he ‘has’ to have an affair does it?! That’s a choice. And imo a selfish one. No one ‘has’ to have sex. Put your kids first.

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:48

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:12

I’ve brought him up better than that I hope.

As I said there is loads of different reasons people cheat .
Like my daughters friends dad that found himself married to a bully , if your son was in that situation & met someone else you may think differently, & I’m sure you wouldn’t think him a bad person .

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 16/03/2026 12:24

Tiddlywinks63 · 16/03/2026 10:37

That’s nothing to be proud of ffs!

I never said it was. I was merely demonstrating that 'once a cheat always a cheat' is frequently a load of old bollocks. I understand why women like to tell themselves and everyone else who will listen that it's the case. But it isn't the always the case.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 16/03/2026 12:20

Never2many · 16/03/2026 08:50

While I am generally of the view that not all affairs are black and white, and that sometimes someone might leave their existing relationship to be with someone else, if you choose to have an affair, you are also choosing the responsibilities which go with that.

And those responsibilities include putting your children first, above the ex you decide to leave, and above the person you decide to leave them for.

If you’re unhappy you have the right to leave a relationship. But you do not have the right to trample over the innocent parties left behind. I.e. the children.

The children may be adults, but if they have chosen to not have anything to do with the woman their father left their mother for, and he is persisting on putting his happiness above theirs, that’s on him, not them.

Even if you’re genuinely unhappy in a relationship, you leave. If you bring someone else into the picture before that then you lose the right to claim unhappiness for your choices.

I don’t subscribe to the view that “once a cheat always a cheat,” but the truth is that if you do cheat, then you take on the responsibilities which go with that, and that includes losing your family if that’s the choices they’ve made.

You choose to leave your wife and children for another woman? Don’t be surprised when those children want nothing to do with that woman.

Nobody has the right to happiness at the expense of others.

If a man marries his mistress knowing his children will not accept her due to how they got together, that’s a clear indication he never loved them in the first place. If he did, he would give them time.

But this man hasn’t even bothered to try and divorce this woman he apparently was so unhappy with.

That tells you all you need to know about him.

I agree with most of that actually. But there are a few things I want to pick up on.

If you’re unhappy you have the right to leave a relationship. But you do not have the right to trample over the innocent parties left behind. I.e. the children.

Well that's easy to say and less easy to do, isn't it? How do you exercise your right to leave without automatically trampling on the children's feelings? Very, very few children of any age are going to be completely emotionally unaffected by your decision. Especially if the decision is not mutual and they have to witness the other parent deeply hurt and financially inconvenienced by your decision. Your kids are going to probably going to feel 'trampled,' no matter how sensitively and reasonably you think you've tried to handle the situation.

That's just the price you'll have to pay for daring to put yourself first. Parents aren't supposed to do that, ever. It's not what we told our children they could expect from us, is it? They expect parents to supply an unending stream of selflessness and martyrdom and no horrible shocks. Obviously, despite the promises we all make to our children and the things people tell themselves, parents do sometimes make selfish decisions, big or small, that affect or damage children all the time.

Sometimes they genuinely don't see it and other times they know very well what they are doing, but they do it anyway because they think their own feelings are too big to ignore. So they apply cognitive dissonance to make themselves feel better about what they are doing.

You choose to leave your wife and children for another woman? Don’t be surprised when those children want nothing to do with that woman.

Absolutely agree and have never tried to suggest otherwise. It sounds to me as if this man has completely taken that on board. He keeps a good relationship with his girls while accepting that they don't want his OW in their life. Will they be happy to continue like this if he says he's getting married? Maybe, maybe not. He'll have to factor that in before he makes his decision.

Nobody has the right to happiness at the expense of others.

Well that's patently untrue. We have no control over how other people will feel about the choices we make for ourselves, but it doesn't mean we don't have the right to make those choices.

We should consider how our choices will affect others whose happiness we feel at least partially responsible for, and weigh up how we should proceed based on that. And obviously that should never be more true than with our children. But with everybody else, including spouses, we have to be free to consider our own needs too. Otherwise we'd all be forever trapped in relationships, friendships or unhealthy family dynamics that are detrimental to our own happiness and wellbeing.

If we inadvertently hurt other people in the process of making ourselves happy, that's an awful shame but it's sometimes unavoidable. Anyone who has ever had to break someone's heart knows this. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be free to do it anyway.

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:15

She asked a question, “ Would you marry someone if you never met their daughters “ ?

and it’s been a fairly unanimous ‘no. Not when you already know he’s a liar, a cheat and a shit father.’

throwawayimplantchat · 16/03/2026 12:13

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:05

He wasn’t her “ affair partner “ 🙄, when he moved in .
He’s her partner.
OP & her partner want to get married , so that does make him their step dad .
He can’t afford two homes , this has been said already .
He pays the mortgage for his daughters family home .

I just think people come on here with all this giving out & passing off lots of shitty remarks to people whose Situations they know nothing about .
It’s fucking mental !
She asked a question, “ Would you marry someone if you never met their daughters “ ?

Partner implies a shared life. When he moved in, he wasn’t her partner.

He was her boyfriend who is still married to someone else.

Now he’s still her boyfriend who is still married to someone else.

Moving a bloke into your child’s home when he has to leave his family home due to having an affair with you, because they can’t afford to rent somewhere of their own, is the epitome of putting a man before your kids. It’s so selfish.

They must have barely met him before he moved in. Jesus.

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:12

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:07

I think you’re talking absolute rubbish, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t think that of your own son if he came to you .
We will have to agree to disagree & leave it at that .

I’ve brought him up better than that I hope.

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:07

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:03

No different whoever it is, I don’t think they’re good people. Leave first.

I think you’re talking absolute rubbish, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t think that of your own son if he came to you .
We will have to agree to disagree & leave it at that .

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 12:05

throwawayimplantchat · 16/03/2026 11:49

What are your thoughts on OP moving in her affair partner to her children’s home, presumably pretty quickly as they’re only 3.5 years in, he couldn’t afford to pay for his own rental at any point and they apparently already consider him their step dad?

In my opinion it’s pretty selfish and shitty parenting to move an unrelated adult male, let alone one you know has a history of lying, into your children’s home quickly because you’ve been shagging them so they need somewhere to live but can’t afford their own place.

He wasn’t her “ affair partner “ 🙄, when he moved in .
He’s her partner.
OP & her partner want to get married , so that does make him their step dad .
He can’t afford two homes , this has been said already .
He pays the mortgage for his daughters family home .

I just think people come on here with all this giving out & passing off lots of shitty remarks to people whose Situations they know nothing about .
It’s fucking mental !
She asked a question, “ Would you marry someone if you never met their daughters “ ?

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 12:03

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 11:39

” No good person has an affair “ , that’s a fairly strong statement to stand by PP .
What if it were your son or your brother ?

No different whoever it is, I don’t think they’re good people. Leave first.

Pumpkinmagic · 16/03/2026 11:53

ZanySheep · 15/03/2026 08:21

Basically I was he other woman I guess so she's still bitter

Well more fool you. If he did it to his wife and the mother of his children, he’ll do it to you too. His ex wife has every right to despise you for the rest of her days. How do you expect her to feel? You almost sound proud of it. What you did is despicable. How would you feel if this happened to your daughter or sister? I think you need to work on your self and on building your self esteem if you are happy having been the other woman before you settle down.

throwawayimplantchat · 16/03/2026 11:49

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 11:39

” No good person has an affair “ , that’s a fairly strong statement to stand by PP .
What if it were your son or your brother ?

What are your thoughts on OP moving in her affair partner to her children’s home, presumably pretty quickly as they’re only 3.5 years in, he couldn’t afford to pay for his own rental at any point and they apparently already consider him their step dad?

In my opinion it’s pretty selfish and shitty parenting to move an unrelated adult male, let alone one you know has a history of lying, into your children’s home quickly because you’ve been shagging them so they need somewhere to live but can’t afford their own place.

Wish44 · 16/03/2026 11:44

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 11:39

” No good person has an affair “ , that’s a fairly strong statement to stand by PP .
What if it were your son or your brother ?

What if it was my son or brother? They would still be my male relatives , I would still love them. But I would think very differently about them and would tell them that their actions were wrong….

lots of people who have affairs are able to admit that their actions were wrong

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 11:39

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 11:22

I disagree @Missj25
if you live with a bully, then you leave that relationship first. You aren’t staying ‘for the kids’, you are staying ‘for yourself so that you can still see your kids’. It’s selfish. I stand by my comment that no good person has an affair.

” No good person has an affair “ , that’s a fairly strong statement to stand by PP .
What if it were your son or your brother ?

mrswomblesbusy · 16/03/2026 11:34

@arethereanyleftatall "I stand by my comment that no good person has an affair."

I agree.
For starters they are liars.
They lie to their partner, they lie to their affair partner and some even lie to themselves.

They all have the same characteristics - entitlement issues, poor problem solving skills, are conflict-avoidant and have a total lack of empathy.

Namingbaba · 16/03/2026 11:30

I don’t know why you’d want to marry so quickly. The wedding planning is going to be a nightmare. You’ll be creating another thread about how his daughters don’t want to come and how it’s going to create a rift between your partner and his children.

If I was you I’d wait it out a while before even considering that. Things might mellow in time.

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 11:22

I disagree @Missj25
if you live with a bully, then you leave that relationship first. You aren’t staying ‘for the kids’, you are staying ‘for yourself so that you can still see your kids’. It’s selfish. I stand by my comment that no good person has an affair.

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 11:16

arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 10:49

Op, if you sounded pleasant in any way, shape or form, I would be advising you to protect your children’s assets.
but the two of you sound like a great match.
your posts have astounded me with your foolishness to not see this abhorrent man for what he is. The lies you are swallowing beggar belief. A good father would NEVER have an affair. Never. He would put his children’s happiness first. If you can’t work out what this tells you about him, and you’re also incapable of listening to other people who tell you, then you’re making your own bed. Enjoy.
I feel very sorry for your children. And his. What a pair of selfish parents.

Oh stop with your narrow mind rubbish ffs !
People cheat for all sorts of reasons, you can’t paint everyone with the same brush .
There are all different situations, & you nor I have any idea what that man’s life was like with his Ex wife.
Yes , there are people with lovely spouses & they still cheat cause they’re assholes .
There are others who just aren’t in love anymore ( in which case yes , walk away , don’t cheat ) .
There are others stuck with bullies who make them miserable , they have kids who they love & find it very hard to walk away .

My daughters friend’s dad , a really nice man & an amazing father was stuck married to a bully for years & years .
He met a lovely woman who he is now marrying . He was married at the time he met her .
I’m so pleased for him being honest that he got away from that shit wife & mother he was married to .
He deserves to be happy .
A hard working , kind man .
His daughter spends most of her time with him & his new wife to be .
You see there are all different stories out there so people shouldn’t be so quick to make assumptions.

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arethereanyleftatall · 16/03/2026 10:49

Op, if you sounded pleasant in any way, shape or form, I would be advising you to protect your children’s assets.
but the two of you sound like a great match.
your posts have astounded me with your foolishness to not see this abhorrent man for what he is. The lies you are swallowing beggar belief. A good father would NEVER have an affair. Never. He would put his children’s happiness first. If you can’t work out what this tells you about him, and you’re also incapable of listening to other people who tell you, then you’re making your own bed. Enjoy.
I feel very sorry for your children. And his. What a pair of selfish parents.

Tiddlywinks63 · 16/03/2026 10:37

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 15/03/2026 23:13

He didn't have any children. And neither did I when I cheated (many times with several people) on my first husband.

But the point is, I've never cheated on this husband.

That’s nothing to be proud of ffs!

TwistedWonder · 16/03/2026 09:37

Missj25 · 16/03/2026 03:53

OP has already said he pays the mortgage on his Children’s family home , not everyone , infact lots can’t afford two houses !

Nearly everyone on here has gone into various different rants , he’s this , that , the other thing .
He just has to have ulterior motives.
It can’t be as simple as they are in love , but his daughters don’t want to know her because they’re not happy their father has moved on .

Should she marry him without meeting them is the question here ?
Personally speaking , all circumstances aside , I wouldn’t be rushing to marry anyone after being married already that I only know for 3 years .

Well if he can’t afford two homes maybe he needs to get on with getting the divorce sorted - 3.5 years, the kids are now adults and it’s still dragging on.

But while hes cocklodging at the OPs he doesn’t appear to he in any rush.

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/03/2026 09:21

If the daughters are adults - why is he still paying the mortgage

house needs to be sold and both buy properties and smaller mortgage

mrswomblesbusy · 16/03/2026 08:54

@Never2many "But this man hasn’t even bothered to try and divorce this woman he apparently was so unhappy with."

Because, as I said upthread, he wants to 'have his cake and eat it'.🙄

Never2many · 16/03/2026 08:50

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 15/03/2026 16:51

That's completely understandable if you were never given the opportunity to meet her and the whole thing was sprung on you. My mum married someone I'd only met once and she'd only known for a matter of weeks herself. Didn't tell me and my siblings until after she'd done it. (We'd all left home, so we had no idea she was planning it.) We never quite forgave her and it changed our relationship forever.

But in this case I get the impression it's been the girls' choice all along to have nothing to do with the OP. That's their right, but it's also his right to remarry if he wants to. They are adults. They can't complain that he's marrying someone they've never met if they've had ample opportunity to meet her and have chosen not to. He's been with her for several years already, so it's not like it will be a bolt out of the blue, either.

Edited

While I am generally of the view that not all affairs are black and white, and that sometimes someone might leave their existing relationship to be with someone else, if you choose to have an affair, you are also choosing the responsibilities which go with that.

And those responsibilities include putting your children first, above the ex you decide to leave, and above the person you decide to leave them for.

If you’re unhappy you have the right to leave a relationship. But you do not have the right to trample over the innocent parties left behind. I.e. the children.

The children may be adults, but if they have chosen to not have anything to do with the woman their father left their mother for, and he is persisting on putting his happiness above theirs, that’s on him, not them.

Even if you’re genuinely unhappy in a relationship, you leave. If you bring someone else into the picture before that then you lose the right to claim unhappiness for your choices.

I don’t subscribe to the view that “once a cheat always a cheat,” but the truth is that if you do cheat, then you take on the responsibilities which go with that, and that includes losing your family if that’s the choices they’ve made.

You choose to leave your wife and children for another woman? Don’t be surprised when those children want nothing to do with that woman.

Nobody has the right to happiness at the expense of others.

If a man marries his mistress knowing his children will not accept her due to how they got together, that’s a clear indication he never loved them in the first place. If he did, he would give them time.

But this man hasn’t even bothered to try and divorce this woman he apparently was so unhappy with.

That tells you all you need to know about him.

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