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Family Emotional Terrorism

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Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 13:35

Hi. I’m really struggling with boundaries with my mother at the moment and the whole situation is getting me down. My brother lives with my parents and nephew spends weekends there (brother split from partner 6 years ago). They live just over an hour away. I take my kids to visit every fortnight or so. Parents come here about twice a year. They said when they moved down there they’d visit of course. All they seem to do is visit the town I live in and then tell us after the event! Brother and nephew come to the town we live in weekly but never suggest meeting up.

When I speak to DM, all she talks about is my nephew. They’ve been to watch him play sports, they all went out for a meal together, she bought him this, he’s done that - on and on and on. Whatever my kids do, he’s done it with bells on. And increasingly she’s doing it in front of my kids. They’ve never even stayed at their GPs for the night - he has his own bedroom. Last weekend when I visited he demanded to know why I’d parked in their parking space. On previous visits he’s called me fat and a cow. And EVERYONE JUST LAUGHS (if I hear my brother say “mate” one more time).

Tuesday morning I get a call from DM first thing. I assume my dad is ill again because she rarely calls. She says she was just calling to see how we all were. Then after 10 minutes complaining about various things, she drops in how my brother had called in sick at school for my nephew the previous day so they all could go for a family meal together 🤯 Some friends had come down to see them. Same friends had contacted me weeks ago to say they were coming. My response was lovely - be lovely to see you as we met up the other year.

I am now in the dog house for saying I had to go because I was fed up of hearing about all these things. Do them, by all means - but keep telling me about things we’ve been excluded from is just rubbing my nose in it. It later transpired the real reason she’d called was to forewarn me before the friends posted pictures of their get together all over Facebook.

Now, radio silence. I will be expected to apologise, particularly with Mother’s Day coming up. I can’t and I won’t. It’s one thing rubbing my nose in it but my kids are picking up on it more and more. I’m absolutely fucking livid.

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BlonderThanYou · 13/03/2026 20:25

send a modest bunch of flowers. then see them monthly.

Kettless · 13/03/2026 20:13

Dropping the rope is like a muscle.
The more you exercise it and step back, the easier it is to gain clarity.
Change is not easy, but peace is the prize.
At the moment it is a scab that is constantly being picked.
Not good for you, your life, your family.

Ladybyrd · 13/03/2026 19:40

@Kettless Thank you. It’s hard to get out of the mindset that you need to “fix” it, but I know the only way of doing that is to ring and apologise. But that isn’t fixing anything at all, it’s just hitting the reset button and round and round we go again. When we go a week or so without contact it’s just more peaceful because I just feel like I’m constantly being needled. I’m starting to get my head around it.

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Kettless · 13/03/2026 19:31

Good.
Don't get into it with your mother.
Just be busy, busy, busy on a loop.
If you refuse to dngage, be available, to discuss anything, you deny her the oxygen that she wants.
Just be busy with stuff where you live and stop visiting.
They can't make you.
So take back control and leave her to your brother.
They are bringing nothing to your life or that of your children, so make them unimportant in it.
Then when you do decide to make a short visit, it really won't bother you so much.
You can't change them, so stop trying.
Change what you can, whichbis your response to all of this.
It works.

Ladybyrd · 13/03/2026 19:12

@KettlessI just said good but busy, hope you had a good holiday. Left it a couple of days then blocked them. My mum was telling me all about what so and so had done, actually accused someone of defrauding a charity! It seemed blatant the friend was using fb as a reconnaissance tool. At best I was being used as a messaging service, at worst, who knows, so no thank you very much.

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Kettless · 13/03/2026 19:07

No flowers.
A plain card and no further visit.
As for a friend caling you.
I would have denied all of it, asked the fridnd was SHE ok making suchba strange call, and then dismiss my mother as confused, dramatic and a bit silly.
Don't ever admit stuff, play it down.

You really need to invest in friends, activities and connections where you live.
Leave your mother to your brother.

Miranda65 · 13/03/2026 18:57

Why are you visiting every fortnight, OP? That's an awful lot, and your kids will be missing out on stuff at home while you're there. Dial it back to 2 or 3 times a year and everything will feel much less fraught.

SynthEsjs · 13/03/2026 18:50

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 13:57

Yes, it may be, but it did feel like a violation. I’m in my own home, minding my own business, up to my eyes in work, but happy in my world. And a call out of the blue, dressed up as concern, but just an unsolicited unburdening I know I was supposed to say please and thank you for. Just upended my day. I know it shouldn’t have, but it did. Maybe not a Molotov cocktail lobbed through the window. Perhaps just a turd.

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Call her out on her nonsense the next time she tries her gaslighting and don’t contact her anymore. This sounds pretty toxic and a weird dynamic for them to start normalising with your son. It’s ok to tell your son directly that this is not normal or how most parents interact with their children.

Ladybyrd · 13/03/2026 18:19

@Sharptonguedwoman In this ensuing silence, I think you’re probably right.

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Sharptonguedwoman · 13/03/2026 18:15

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 16:03

@TruJayThe family friend messaging - it’s just cringeworthy. Can’t believe they’ve been telling tales on me - and that tale was just “don’t rub my nose in it when you exclude me - I don’t want to hear about it - I have to go now, bye.” I don’t think that’s unreasonable personally but I don’t doubt there was wailing and hysterics at the unfairness of it all, me being circled as the oddball again (long history of it). I just can’t be arsed with any of it. I’m not explaining myself again.

Partner suggested just sending flowers for Mother’s Day and I think that’s what I’ll do. I am not being presented as the arsehole in this. When they’re nice they’re very, very nice but it takes a blow up every so often then lapses back to this.

Oh no. A card is quite enough.

Ladybyrd · 13/03/2026 18:04

Worst of it all was - yes my nephew has been rude - but he was talking about his 11 plus and it was just really sad. He said there was no point him doing it because he’s “bad at English”. I understand that not all kids get to go to grammar school - that’s life. But “bad” is so resigned. To me it just means “need help”. So his dad calls in sick to take him to a pub - Christ knows how many days off the kid’s had to go to sports fixtures. Aside from all the other stuff, I just think it’s really sad.

Not my circus, nor my monkeys though.

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IAxolotlQuestions · 13/03/2026 17:16

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 16:23

@EasterbunnygettingawrappingNo, I know he absolutely will not bother.

Then don't you bother either.

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 16:23

@EasterbunnygettingawrappingNo, I know he absolutely will not bother.

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Easterbunnygettingawrapping · 12/03/2026 16:09

Tbh why flowers? Save the £££ and treat you and your dc to a cake and a drink at a nice cafe at the weekend instead..
You know db will have sent a bigger /better bouquet so why bother?

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 16:03

@TruJayThe family friend messaging - it’s just cringeworthy. Can’t believe they’ve been telling tales on me - and that tale was just “don’t rub my nose in it when you exclude me - I don’t want to hear about it - I have to go now, bye.” I don’t think that’s unreasonable personally but I don’t doubt there was wailing and hysterics at the unfairness of it all, me being circled as the oddball again (long history of it). I just can’t be arsed with any of it. I’m not explaining myself again.

Partner suggested just sending flowers for Mother’s Day and I think that’s what I’ll do. I am not being presented as the arsehole in this. When they’re nice they’re very, very nice but it takes a blow up every so often then lapses back to this.

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TruJay · 12/03/2026 15:31

‘It is what it is I suppose. I won’t cut them off at this stage as they haven’t upset the kids just me, but I will certainly step back.’

This is sad, you’re important too. You certainly don’t need to wait until they hurt your children.
I found we didn’t even need to ‘cut them off’ we were already cut off anyway. Always kept on the outside. You just stop everything from your side and the tumbleweed soon arrives.

We’ve tried discussions, we’ve tried explaining how we’re made to feel but we’re exaggerating, lying, causing problems. Basically put up and shut up. But no more. My kids didn’t need to be told where the cousins had been taken, about their recent sleepovers, about what they’d been given, bought, how amazing they are accompanied by the photos shoved in their faces as proof. I’m sad I let it continue as long as I did. My kids were seen once or twice a year if that, our invitations to them were always cancelled last minute in favour of others even if the plans had been made months in advance.

Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2026 15:23

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 14:27

I did. I was yer but no but.

I know you’re right.

Perhaps try and be clearer?

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 14:54

@CheeryOnionMy parents are kind to the kids when we visit. DF struggles as his hearing is terrible, DM does talk to them. They both make a fuss.

It’s just I have to keep redrawing the line. She’ll be fine, then keep overstepping and overstepping. My kids really don’t need to hear what she’s been doing with my cousin. But there again, she probably doesn’t have much else to talk about.

They do make a fuss on birthdays and Christmas. My children only have a GM on the other side and she lives abroad so we only see her once a year. It’s hard.

Some of it is probably resentment as I feel really unsupported by them as grandparents yet they gave free childcare to my ex sister in law (not that I ever wanted it but it would be nice to have just a little support).

It is what it is I suppose. I won’t cut them off at this stage as they haven’t upset the kids just me, but I will certainly step back.

The whole pattern of it is just so draining though.

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FlapperFlamingo · 12/03/2026 14:50

Distance yourself from the drama. Don't visit everyone couple of weeks - you're busy, you're taking the kids out, whatever. Break the cycle and back away from them.

CheeryOnion · 12/03/2026 14:35

I was your children in this scenario growing up. My paternal grandmother was not interested in my sisters and me, but my cousin's were amazing and very clearly her favourite. I didn't understand when I was growing up, I remember trying so hard to please her but she wasn't interested. A few years ago I let her go. I grieved for her as I lost a grandmother (not literally) but she was so toxic and could be so nasty, I've felt so free without her. It's really sad situation but I am far better no contact. I'm really grateful my Dad (and Mum) for trying to protect me from her nasty ways. I think you need to do the same for your children x

Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 14:27

Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2026 14:21

Did you post about this yesterday and then ask for it to be removed for some reason?
Your parents favour your brother and his son, its crap and not fair but you won't change it so change how you react instead
Drop the rope and leave them all to it, if you see them do it on your own terms and if your nephew is rude to you tell him off

I did. I was yer but no but.

I know you’re right.

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Ladybyrd · 12/03/2026 14:26

That’s it in a nutshell @TruJay. But it’s really my fault because I step back, they come forward a bit, I step forward and before you know it it blows up again (usually following some drama engineered by my brother - I’m still waiting for a response to an invite to Christmas dinner 2025 - a no would have been fine. Won’t happen again though.)

It’s the gaslighting though “oh it isn’t like that at all you’re imaging it”.

The best thing was one of the “friends” messaging me to make sure I’m ok. So my mum must have called for backup and I’m being portrayed as mentally unhinged.

I blocked them. Not to create drama but to stop it. I don’t want the intrusion. At best I was just a communication channel to my mother - they can pick up the phone instead now.

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Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2026 14:21

Did you post about this yesterday and then ask for it to be removed for some reason?
Your parents favour your brother and his son, its crap and not fair but you won't change it so change how you react instead
Drop the rope and leave them all to it, if you see them do it on your own terms and if your nephew is rude to you tell him off

TruJay · 12/03/2026 14:16

Drop the rope, step back. It doesn’t have to be any major argument (it wouldn’t make a difference anyway) what follows is sad but becomes peaceful. We stepped back, we haven’t been spoken to since, we’re the villains in the story to everyone that will listen.
Whereas we’ve just chosen peace, we were never included, never invited, contact never reciprocated, facebook flooded with family adventures to places, that usually we’d suggested we could all get together and ‘oh it was just a last minute decision’.
We tried for so many years and eventually it just becomes too disheartening, too draining and when children become old enough to notice the difference in treatment themselves and ask why, that’s when it truly becomes enough.

ChillingWithMySnowmies · 12/03/2026 14:12

Take a measured step back.

You do not owe your family anything.. including your Time and Presence.

I haven't seen/spoken to my older brother in weeks, i speak to his wife occasionally, and i will see him this Sunday and we'll talk as normal. I really only see him on Birthdays and special occasions and we're fine with that. It doesn't mean i don't love him, and we're not close.. but we don't feel the need to be performative about spending time in each others company for the hell of it.

You can love your family without spending every other weekend making nice with them for appearances sake if it isn't something you want to do with your lives!