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MinaHarker1897 · 04/03/2026 10:06

Goodness knows @LucyWestenra. I love your username but then I would, wouldn't I?!

Seriously, that woman is an absolute disgrace. Shameful embarrassment who should just go away and shut up. Not that I agree with silencing women, but I do agree with silencing people who chat absolute rubbish.

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 08:49

How can 14% think I’m being unreasonable??

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LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 08:20

cariadlet · 03/03/2026 16:10

If you have been posting on this Abi Wilkinson thread, you may be interested in the long running sexism/other issues in the Green Party thread as that's been discussing Abi Wilkinson (scroll to posts from yesterday).

I thought I shared a link when I was Mumsnetting on my phone this morning but it seems to have disappeared.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?page=1&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Thank you for the link.

Why are women voting for this party?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/03/2026 17:28

Just another imbecile who thinks that being unable to report a rape happening because you were murdered by your rapists along with anybody else that could confirm it and be taken seriously (ie, a man) means it didn't happen.

Seriously, in what world does anybody think that rape doesn't happen in every conflict, every war, every insurrection, every rebellion and in every peaceful, generally calm and law abiding continent, country, region, city, town, village, hamlet and sleepy little cluster of people? It doesn't matter where you are, rape happens everywhere. You just need a male who wants to do it and it happens. It's always happened. It always will.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/03/2026 17:27

@Summerhillsquare, can you explain why the Green Party has swung behind HAMAS as it has? Are there no reservations about the conflict between the Greens' support for LGBTQ+ rights and the position of HAMAS and other Islamist groups on this issue? Why is it a natural fit for a party that was set up to focus on the environment? Why hasn't it campaigned more on issues like China producing cheap rubbish that uses scarce resources and will rapidly end up in landfill, while also having an abysmal human rights record? Apologies if it has, but that's not the impression I have. There are so many places around the world where people are living in awful conditions. Why is Gaza the one that grabs the headlines? Why have so many left of centre people found it difficult to support the people of Iran who want to see an end to their awful government and its terrible record on human rights? It surely can't just be because Trump's behind it, can it? Because that would be childish. 'I'm Lily's friend so I can't be your friend because Lily doesn't like you even though I do actually quite like you and I don't always like what Lily does and says ...'

Summerhillsquare · 03/03/2026 17:16

Can you supply some more anti Green stories from the same source? Or of a similar nature? Preferably ones that make no reference as to why the Green Party exists.

Funparsnip · 03/03/2026 16:49

I advise her to go and watch “the killing roads”. Absolutely harrowing documentary about what happened that day.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/03/2026 16:46

Brightonkebab · 03/03/2026 16:19

she's dreadful. On twitter she once claimed Gulags weren't so bad becase people got an education there.

There are a lot of enormously stupid people around who don't seem to grasp how thick statements like this make them sound, especially to those of us who lived through the latter part of the Cold War and remember the Berlin Wall coming down. Many of them appear to be incapable of grasping that you can agree with someone about some things and disagree about another and that one disagreement doesn't make the other person an evil bigot who should be cancelled.

If a politician they support had done what Trump and Netanyahu are doing now, they'd have swung right behind them, just as Communists all over the world did when Stalin pulled out of his non-aggression pact with Hitler after the Nazis invaded the USSR during World War 2. Prior to that many of them had refused to get involved in the war because the USSR was staying out of it. They also refused to condemn Stalin for invading and taking over half of Poland by agreement with Hitler, who took over the other half. Tribalism.

Happyjoe · 03/03/2026 16:36

caringcarer · 02/03/2026 17:22

Left wing groups all seem.to support Palestine and Hamas and be against Israelis. It doesn't suprise me at all.

This isn't support, it's lying.

But please don't label all left wing groups or those with left leaning politics the same as this creature.

Namechangeyname · 03/03/2026 16:26

Nofeckingway · 03/03/2026 16:17

I would be very much ProPalestian but definitely not pro Hamas . Not anti semite but anti Israel .And to deny the atrocities committed on October 7th is an insult to any thinking person's intelligence. Are the Green Party only interested in appealing to one segment . And what happens when the demands to introduce laws favourable only to their criteria .

I am pro Palestinian and pro Israeli. I am anti Hamas and anti the ultra right-wing Israeli government. I think that distinction is an important one.

beefthief · 03/03/2026 16:21

On the surface, it seems very clear that she's been unreasonable. Is there further context, for example, there may have been a small window in between things happening, and confirmation of those things, and she tweeted in that window? I couldn't see a date in the article, so may be off base, but always happy to learn.

Brightonkebab · 03/03/2026 16:19

she's dreadful. On twitter she once claimed Gulags weren't so bad becase people got an education there.

Nofeckingway · 03/03/2026 16:17

I would be very much ProPalestian but definitely not pro Hamas . Not anti semite but anti Israel .And to deny the atrocities committed on October 7th is an insult to any thinking person's intelligence. Are the Green Party only interested in appealing to one segment . And what happens when the demands to introduce laws favourable only to their criteria .

Verarubinrules · 03/03/2026 16:14

Same old same old misogyny from the greens. They’re despicable. People seem to be supporting them based on nothing except they’re ’the greens’. Not many have looked at their policies. They can’t have done!

Labelledelune · 03/03/2026 12:41

Everynamehasgone99 · 03/03/2026 12:09

Reform ARE racist

Not at all they are against illegal migration.

Dollymylove · 03/03/2026 12:25

MrThorpeHazell · 03/03/2026 11:49

I wouldn't condemn ANYONE for ANYTHING on the basis of a report in the Daily Mail.
YABU.

Well I have had a good look around the tinternet and I have seen nothing that suggests she DIDNT say it. One would imagine that their would be fierce rebuttals posted if it wasnt true, wouldnt one?
Sorry to disappoint you

WhatAMarvelousTune · 03/03/2026 12:15

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/03/2026 18:02

The only reason those morons are in is they actively campaigned for the Muslim vote by (rightly or wrongly) smearing Reform as racist.

I think what this woman said is beyond appalling and totally indefensible.

But to respond to your post specifically, there is nothing wrong with the principle of campaigning for the votes of a specific group, or pointing out Reform’s racism.

Everynamehasgone99 · 03/03/2026 12:09

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/03/2026 18:02

The only reason those morons are in is they actively campaigned for the Muslim vote by (rightly or wrongly) smearing Reform as racist.

Reform ARE racist

MrThorpeHazell · 03/03/2026 11:49

I wouldn't condemn ANYONE for ANYTHING on the basis of a report in the Daily Mail.
YABU.

MovingBird123 · 02/03/2026 19:41

Don't have the strength to get involved with these things atm, but thank you very much for the support, it really means a huge amount.

hattie43 · 02/03/2026 19:23

I’m not surprised at all .

callmej · 02/03/2026 19:22

cariadlet · 02/03/2026 18:12

In my FB feed, the people who deny or minimise the sexual violence that was a deliberate part of the October massacres, seem to be the same people who are telling me that most women in Iran are happy to have their hair covered ; that the numbers of protesters shot by the regime have been grossly exaggerated and that the protests were orchestrated by Mossad!

Unbelievable!

A lot of the pro-palestine movement's funded by Iran. Though not sure everyone who subscribes to it knows that. Or maybe they just don't want to believe it. Or maybe they've genuinely convinced themselves that the Iranian regime are the good guys.

It's always struck me as very odd how so many people who presumably consider themselves morally superb don't seem to be concerned that they're marching side by side with terrorists and racists, or even really notice. I like to think if I found myself on a march, looked round and saw a load of my fellow protesters screaming racist hate and terrorist propaganda celebrating rape, kidnap, torture and murder, I'd step away and try to figure out where I'd gone wrong. But I get the feeling so many of these virtue signallers are of the sort who absolutely cannot cope with being wrong. So they go deeper and deeper, justifying it to themselves the whole way. Even to the point of seeing people raped, kidnapped, tortured and murdered because of their ethnicity, nationality or religion. It's not true, and if it is true, then it's their fault anyway and they do worse themselves so they deserve it. Absolutely guarantee that's what this cunt will come out with if she's forced to acknowledge it actually happened - these women deserved it, and it's perfectly acceptable in the fight against 'oppression'.

5MinuteArgument · 02/03/2026 18:58

ColdWeatherWarning · 02/03/2026 18:45

Some people are so obsessed with 'supporting the underdog', no matter the situation, that they cannot accept/admit the underdog ever does anything wrong.

It reminds me of the Swedish(?) woman who was raped by an immigrant but decided to blame a local man instead, because reporting the poor ickle immigrant would be mean and racist and unfair on him.

Yes, and they don't realise that as time goes on the underdog is no longer the underdog.

Wabbajack · 02/03/2026 18:55

Given what their deputy leader said about October 7th it's hardly surprising.