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Beachtastic · 04/03/2026 13:26

LucyWestenra · 02/03/2026 17:25

She absolutely is a disgrace.

Hamas must be thanking their lucky stars for useful idiots like her.

There have been plenty of them on Mumsnet unfortunately 🤡

ColourThief · 04/03/2026 13:24

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tramtracks · 04/03/2026 13:24

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 12:50

Ah this old chestnut... you can't tax billionaires because they'll just leave.

A myth perpetrated by ( you guessed it ) Billionaires themselves.

The Duke of Westminster is worth over £10bn. He owns massive chunks of Mayfair and Belgravia.

Tell me how he's going to take that with him if he leaves the country?

As his properties will reside in a trust or company structure I am guessing he could simply off shore his company hq. In the same way that Nissan does - I.e own car factories here but doesn’t HQ its company out of Japan.

we have plenty of billionaires who choose to stay here. But I don’t particularly like policies which might encourage them to leave.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:23

Horses7 · 04/03/2026 13:22

Ffs - how can there be 12% who support this dangerous nonsense? Words fail me and they should be ashamed for being so so stupid!!
Beggars belief!!!

It's alarming.

Horses7 · 04/03/2026 13:22

Ffs - how can there be 12% who support this dangerous nonsense? Words fail me and they should be ashamed for being so so stupid!!
Beggars belief!!!

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 13:20

MyOpalCat · 04/03/2026 13:12

It's a new low in a cynical world to not believe the rape victims on 7/10/23.

I don't think it even that they don't belive them - it's that they find it politically inconvenient and really just don't care.

There is pleanty of evidence Hamas used rape and sexual violience against Jewish women as well as killing unarmed people.

At same time Isreal bombed and killed a civilian population - more skewed to children - as collective punishment and for poltcial conveinece and land grab and commited a war crime.

As in many conflicts nether side has clean hands and both try and ignore and justify the unjustifable.

Most parties on Left in UK are weak on women's rights - which doesn't mean the right or Reform are appealing either. Voters are looking at local and national issues as well as world events and weighing up polices and actual candiates as well as the wider party and decide what they care about most.

She an idiot for saying it so publically as it may well cost her party votes - but it's sadly not an uncommon view on left. It how the grooming gangs went uninvestgated for so long politically inconvenient to beleive the UK victims and investigate.

It’s not quite accurate to say they bombed Gazan civilians as a collective punishment; it was a war with Hamas in an extremely densely populated area, that Hamas started and could have stopped at any time by agreeing to peace deals (such as returning hostages), which they repeatedly refused.

War is terrible, immoral and should be avoided at all costs, but this war wasn’t a genocide, nor any worse than other wars.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:20

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 13:20

Antisemitism? Oh behave.

Polanski is actually jewish ffs.

I'm behaving, thanks.
I stand by what I said.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:20

Joani Reid MP has called for Abi Wilkinson to be sacked by Zack Polanski following these remarks.

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 13:20

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:10

Labour won't form an alliance with the Greens, in their current form.
The Greens are a good example of a Left leaning group which has swung to the right. Embracing policies of wealth distribution and supporting the workers, but riddled with antisemitism, misogyny and intolerance.

Antisemitism? Oh behave.

Polanski is actually jewish ffs.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:17

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 13:16

They also don’t seem to realise that Egypt are in control of part of Gaza’s border!

Extraordinary.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:17

Minervano1 · 04/03/2026 13:16

Is there any evidence Abi Wilkinson said these things (apart from a Daily Mail article telling us she did)?

Yes, I had a look and you can see the tweet. Also it's been reported by other outlets.
I've yet to see a denial or a response from the Greens.

Minervano1 · 04/03/2026 13:16

Is there any evidence Abi Wilkinson said these things (apart from a Daily Mail article telling us she did)?

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 13:16

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:01

Absolutely. The level of ignorance surrounding Israel really is astonishing.
Someone on another thread thought that Gaza had been occupied by the Israelis since 1948!
I said "look up Egyptian military occupation"!
Such idiocy!

They also don’t seem to realise that Egypt are in control of part of Gaza’s border!

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 13:12

raspberets · 04/03/2026 13:05

Can you explain the math again? 50% + 21% = 71%
is that right?

Edited

No, it’s not exact as there are mixed people etc.

But 21% of Israelis are Arab, and about 73-76% of Israelis are Jewish; of these, just under half are Mizrahi Jews and just under half are Ashkenazi Jews.

The remainder of the total population are various minority groups, and foreign or foreign descent spouses etc.

MyOpalCat · 04/03/2026 13:12

It's a new low in a cynical world to not believe the rape victims on 7/10/23.

I don't think it even that they don't belive them - it's that they find it politically inconvenient and really just don't care.

There is pleanty of evidence Hamas used rape and sexual violience against Jewish women as well as killing unarmed people.

At same time Isreal bombed and killed a civilian population - more skewed to children - as collective punishment and for poltcial conveinece and land grab and commited a war crime.

As in many conflicts nether side has clean hands and both try and ignore and justify the unjustifable.

Most parties on Left in UK are weak on women's rights - which doesn't mean the right or Reform are appealing either. Voters are looking at local and national issues as well as world events and weighing up polices and actual candiates as well as the wider party and decide what they care about most.

She an idiot for saying it so publically as it may well cost her party votes - but it's sadly not an uncommon view on left. It how the grooming gangs went uninvestgated for so long politically inconvenient to beleive the UK victims and investigate.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:10

RollOnSunshine · 04/03/2026 13:04

I am terrified that our next government is going to be a Green and Labour coalition. As if the current shit show are not bad enough.

Edited

Labour won't form an alliance with the Greens, in their current form.
The Greens are a good example of a Left leaning group which has swung to the right. Embracing policies of wealth distribution and supporting the workers, but riddled with antisemitism, misogyny and intolerance.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 13:05

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 12:57

Also, nearly half Israeli Jews are Mizrahi - originating from the Arab world, where they were expelled from and can’t realistically go back. They don’t tend to look white.

With 21% of Israelis being Arabs (Palestinians who assimilated) that leaves only a minority of Israeli citizens being Ashkenazi - those with recent history in Eastern/Central Europe, and who woke idiots are therefore accusing of being white colonizers.

Can you explain the math again? 50% + 21% = 71%
is that right?

RollOnSunshine · 04/03/2026 13:04

I am terrified that our next government is going to be a Green and Labour coalition. As if the current shit show are not bad enough.

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 13:01

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 12:57

Also, nearly half Israeli Jews are Mizrahi - originating from the Arab world, where they were expelled from and can’t realistically go back. They don’t tend to look white.

With 21% of Israelis being Arabs (Palestinians who assimilated) that leaves only a minority of Israeli citizens being Ashkenazi - those with recent history in Eastern/Central Europe, and who woke idiots are therefore accusing of being white colonizers.

Absolutely. The level of ignorance surrounding Israel really is astonishing.
Someone on another thread thought that Gaza had been occupied by the Israelis since 1948!
I said "look up Egyptian military occupation"!
Such idiocy!

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 12:57

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 12:41

Weirdly, they assume that all Israelis are white.
There are Arab Israelis, Muslims, Christians, Druze, Bedouin... however, that doesn't suit their narrative.

Also, nearly half Israeli Jews are Mizrahi - originating from the Arab world, where they were expelled from and can’t realistically go back. They don’t tend to look white.

With 21% of Israelis being Arabs (Palestinians who assimilated) that leaves only a minority of Israeli citizens being Ashkenazi - those with recent history in Eastern/Central Europe, and who woke idiots are therefore accusing of being white colonizers.

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 12:50

LucyWestenra · 04/03/2026 12:48

Leaving aside everything else, do you really believe billionaires are going to stick around long enough to have their wealth ‘redistributed’?

Ah this old chestnut... you can't tax billionaires because they'll just leave.

A myth perpetrated by ( you guessed it ) Billionaires themselves.

The Duke of Westminster is worth over £10bn. He owns massive chunks of Mayfair and Belgravia.

Tell me how he's going to take that with him if he leaves the country?

ChattyCatty25 · 04/03/2026 12:49

ERthree · 04/03/2026 12:38

This is not surprising in the slightest. We have got to the point in the western world that no black or brown person can ever be held to account for their actions. white people are continually told they are racist, have unconscious bias and white privilege. No criticism of a black or brown person is allowed no matter what. You say Michael Jackson wasn't the worlds best singer, your racist, call Meghan out on her lies, you are racist.
Racist is a word used to beat white people and to allow anyone who is not white to act as they please and demand the world do their bidding.
white liberals made this situation.

This is very true; what’s shocking is that one of these white self haters escalated to trying to falsely accuse a white man.

If you don’t want your precious brown or black rapist to be punished, then just don’t report it to the police. Don’t try to attack an innocent man because of the colour of his skin!

OrangeAxolotyl · 04/03/2026 12:49

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 12:46

I don't care.

Every political party has its fair share of idiots; idiots who occasionally tweet something stupid or offensive.

Overall, I still think the Greens are the best choice. Best for the environment, best for the economy, best for society.

Their poll ratings are skyrocketing, and they just won Denton and Gorton, so clearly lots of other people agree with me.

Well I think there are idiots in every party.
This is beyond idiocy.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 12:49

Twiglets1 · 04/03/2026 12:47

That last sentence sounds so sad.

We should always believe rape victims whether Sudanese, Jewish or whatever.

It's a new low in a cynical world to not believe the rape victims on 7/10/23.

Edited

Any rape victim.

IcyPlumShaker · 04/03/2026 12:49

SapphireSeptember · 04/03/2026 12:47

Why did you put the B last? I know we (bisexual people) are often overlooked, but come on! Makes me rage (and they don't care about the LGBT people who don't agree with them either!)
(You can say arsehole here too.)

Meanwhile, to that idiot woman denying the horrific violence of the 7th of October attacks. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!!! (Yes I am shouting.) What else is she going to deny happened that day? I just cannot with these people anymore. I can't think about the loss of life that happened that day and the subsequent loss of life in Gaza without feeling utter despair. I'm very much in the pro human life, anti murder and war camp.

Ha, I'm very sorry for putting the B last, it wasn't deliberate, I promise!

Particularly as I'm B myself!