To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

There would have been a mass report by every poster on the this thread I expect, if anyone had said that about Palestinians being animals.

Of course we don't and that poster was highly offensive.

I reported them though I know some people say - let it stand to see the crap some people put out there - but I just couldn't.

No-one. I would have reported it, had they done so.

That is why people think the Green Party is a joke and worse, pandering to the very worst of the extremist Muslims. They keep coming out with lies and crap.

Ffs Hamas filmed some of the abuse and murder themselves, put it online and celebrated what they were doing. I don’t get how anyone can deny it.

Comments I have read about flattening Gaza because Palestinians are animals are not helpful either.

Who on this thread has said anything remotely like this?

Didn't the Queen refuse to engage with Israel after a British negotiator was killed? We weren't talking about terrorist groups.

Even terrorists? I beg to differ.

I think that if we are going to argue for humanity and treating everyone humanely, comments like yours are not helpful either. Comments I have read about flattening Gaza because Palestinians are animals are not helpful either. If you genuinely support human rights, extend it to all human beings not just one group.

Absolute bollocks stated with such great confidence.

Thank you @OrangeAxolotyl it is heartening to have voices like yours and @LucyWestenra to balance the rampant anti semitism on here and elsewhere. Most grateful to you x

I think she did get punished, yes. Can't find an article or update now (it was many years ago, maybe around Brexit time?) but I seriously would like to know what her reasoning was, and if she's had therapy to combat it.

There's 'suicidal empathy' and then there's this mindset. I don't know if it has a name. But a frightening number of activists nowadays seem to have it, like this Green idiot.

Please understand this! I'm not Jewish, no connection to Israel, I've just been horrified at the rise in antisemitism and decided I was always going to speak up.
Like the saying about good people doing nothing. That was a very distressing post, but it's been deleted, so I hope you can feel that not everyone feels that way.
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I am part Jewish and not antisemetic, but some of the things she is saying are along the lines of what professionals have said - the woman appointed to investigate rape said that, after asking Israel for all relevant information and evidence and reviewing all evidence in existance, there was no evidence of organised or systematic rape, that there was very little evidence of rape at all (although there was no denial that it could have happened) and that some false evidence had been given (a family of a girl who had been tragically killed publicly said that the reports she had been raped were untrue, they knew this as someone had been in phone contact up to the point of death). I can't remember the woman's name but I could find out.

The reports of babies being beheaded were also shown to be debunked. There were also reports which showed evidence that some of the physical damage had been done by IDF (this is not to do with rape obviously) and that many of the burned victims were Palestinian civilians who had followed Hamas through the fences. Some reports said that some of the killing and potential rape could have been done by the civilian groups. There were reports from inside Israel by Israelis saying that their family and friends near the border had been calling for help from Israel for several hours before help arrived - this is what Charlie Kirk was saying in interviews in the month leading up to his death, and there was a lot of anger from some quarters that this was being said.

This is not to lessen the horror of the 2 year long hostage situation. It is more that the professionals involved felt it was important to be accurate about what evidence there is and what evidence does not exist or is lacking.

She also commented on "lebensraum" which is not permitted according to Jewish websites, as any comparison with Hitler is seen as antisemetic (even though the lebensraum ideology in fact originally came from America in relation to the colonisers' perceived right to take land from Native Americans, Hitler found this inspiring) but moving away from that word, there has been a lot of talk from Zionist quarters and indeed Trump, apparently, about a "Greater Israel" which arguably could amount to the same thing.

I think it is more important for everyone to focus on a two state solution and protecting Gaza from non-Palestinian property developer billionairs, rather than any partisan tweeting.

@LucyWestenra thank you once again for your support. Posting online shows Jewish people that not everyone hates us, which might be surmised if a Martian fell to earth and read some of the comments here! ❤️

It’s all about being seen as Good People. Good People only deal in black and white. They’re either passionately FOR something or passionately AGAINST something. They don’t deal in nuance. No one ever got overexcited about nuance.

I just don't understand the need for such insane denial of the facts. It's absolutely possible to feel that women and children in Palestine shouldn't be murdered AND ALSO that Hamas are utterly evil and barbaric and Israeli women and children shouldn't be murdered. How about we feel empathy for any and all innocent victims. Why does our empathy need to somehow be limited to an either / or one side is all good and the other side is all evil?

@OneLoyalLurker Many Israeli women, at least those who didn't die of their injuries, HAVE come out and spoken about their rapes and sexual attacks on and after 7 October when they were kidnapped! Even the Guardian (no supporter of Israel) reported them. Shame on you with your misinformation and lies.

Israeli forces raping anyone is a war crime and should absolutely be exposed. I am surprised it has been commented on so little.

But the two things can co-exist. There are ample pictures you can see with your own eyes of female hostages (alive and dead) with bloodstained clothing, posts from Palestinian social media, pictures from reputable international sources.

Acknowledging that widespread sexual violence took place is not the same as saying that innocent Palestinian women and children deserved to be slaughtered. But it is acknowledging a fact. Of a terrible thing that happened to equally innocent Israeli women.