To think this is utterly disgusting?!?

I've just checked and cannot see anything from them. Hopefully, they will respond and not just leave it. If they don't respond it shows us who they are. I did vote Green many years ago on environmental grounds. The party has changed and not for the better in many ways.

Again, hopefully they will respond to the criticism 🤔

That's my question.

Horrifying.

She is not the first and unlikely to be the last to deny the rapes on October 7th. This should be a fringe extremist view - without rebuttal of this by the green party, does that indicate they silently accept/agree with her views? Or have they distanced themselves and I haven't seen it?
Concerning.

Why don't you do it, since you are so very invested in my posts? OTOH
you could just post about what this thread is about - the Green Party and their attitudes towards women who were raped on and after 7 October 2023.

I can. It's Jewish men and women.

I think rape of anyone male or female and from any nation is abhorrent and is NEVER 'resistance'. Rape is about control, humiliation and dominance. It is NEVER acceptable.

There were also men raped as well as women and girls on October 7th.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/24/world-news/first-male-rape-survivor-of-the-october-7-attack-describes-horrors/

I can't understand the silence about this.

We shall see if they make one.

Maybe they will just wait it out and let other news take over....

There was upset, disgust and anger at the comments made.

https://britbrief.co.uk/politics/westminster/green-party-spin-doctor-denies-hamas-attack-rapes-sparks-outrage.html

Yes, I find those responses very patronising.

Could you go back and find and then quote exactly (word for word) what you did say about 2005 and about the war starting in Oct 7?

I understood what the poster meant perfectly well.

I'm sure he doesn't need you to defend him and his posts. He's quite capable of telling us we are 'biased' or that we lack 'thinking skills' or 'reading skills/comprehension' as he has done throughout his posting.

Again the thread topic has been lost.

I also completely understood what this poster wrote. 💐
There has been no statement of clarification or denial from either Abi Wilkinson or Zack Polanski, or anyone representing the Greens to clarify, deny, or apologise.

So you are saying that when Israel as you say left Gaza there was no intention to leave it in peace????

That is not what I said at all.

Noted the way you parrot Hamas propaganda: One thing it HAS done, is raise the profile of Palestinians and their struggle to the world. And I don't think Israel have improved their reputation in the process.

That’s a very good point. “Let’s raise the profile of Palestinians by wrecking their lives even more”, what a brilliant idea.

Apparently, if we don't understand and we get upset by comments, it's a 'comprehension problem'. I understood perfectly well, as did others, who also shared our disgust. He has backtracked a bit on comments finally when pushed by another poster. That's something I suppose 🙄

Anyway, enough of him. This thread is about a women who is a spin doctor/press representative for The Green party and comments about no rapes on October 7th. It was side-tracked by other comments.

I hope the Green Party at least make a statement or offer their representative some training. I fear they will won't do much though. We shall see.

@twiglets1 and @Ihatetomatoes
Just to let you know as a biological female I find it deeply offensive for you to be referring to "female" and "male" styles of posting. There are virtually no differences between male and female brains other than to do with hormones. Differences in style are to do with conditioning. And men are in fact allowed to post on MN, though the assumption is that most of us are female. Just letting you know, I don't expect you to agree with me.

Their posts have been misunderstood and misread, that is the problem.

There is most definitely a comprehension problem on this thread, @IcyPlumShaker .
You yourself felt motivated to clarify your own posts.
Stop with the constant repetitive mantra of "pro Israel bias". It really doesn't further any discussion and is just a blunt instrument to hit people with.

So you are saying that when Israel as you say left Gaza there was no intention to leave it in peace????

I didn't say you were lying in relation to this and said I might have got your statement wrong.

Re Gaza have a look at my long post quoting from a military magazine - it refers to a project which was put in place by Israel in 2008. So as I said upthread, I think you are factually wrong in your analysis (not lying)
I have now responded to your other post and I did appreciate your reply explaining your point of view, thank you

I took a look, since I was horrified at what poster was saying and didn't sound female and wondered if that style of posting was usual for that person. It was.. However, cannot say more since he will report.

It looks like I am the only poster who believes the war did begin after the atrocities committed by Hamas on 7 October. The retaliation (if people prefer to use that term instead of war) was the start of what is now commonly called the war in Gaza.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I think you're right.

I do stand by everything I've said. I haven't backtracked at all.

I don't think I ever said anywhere that the Israeli victims on Oct 7th were not innocent, or were ' asking for it ' or anything like that. I can also completely accept that some were raped; I'm not trying to deny that happened either.

I do think there is a comprehension problem for some people on this thread. Either that, or they're not really thinking clearly.

I'm really disheartened by the obvious pro-Israel bias by some people on here, and their refusal to see that Israel has done anything wrong. I'm not pro-Hamas, or even pro-Palestine particularly - if there was a thread where people were saying Palestine was completely innocent, I'd be taking issue with that too.

As the old saying goes, ' there are none so blind as will not see ' - I think that's the territory we're dealing with here.

We don't know for sure. Though I do agree that they appear to speak with a male voice more than a female voice. Given the exchange I referred to above (my post at 9.43).

Indeed. There's just a strange approach to take issue with one poster by attacking another! It really defies logic.