If you think drugs should be legalised..

You can presumably see some arguments for decriminalising drugs even if you don't agree.

Can you really see reasons for removing the age of consent?

That comparisson is ridiculous

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I will not contradict you however the legislation ssys is illegal.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/51A#:~:text=(1)It%20is%20an%20offence,the%20Street%20Offences%20Act%201959.%5D

I had the luck of coming through the rave scene was new and AMAZING. I’ve been involved in the scene for the best part of 35 years. A lot of pills have been imbibed in that time

I would absolutely prefer my kids went out and took the occasional E than spent their nights drinking and getting in to fights and making shitty decisions. And actually, I’ve raised one very sensible, graduate, raver, and one who has no inclination.

MDMA is one of the safest drugs there is. Millions of grams taken every weekend
either in pill or crystal form. No one ever took a pill and thought “I’m going to go and have a fight with that copper” or “I’m going to go home and start an argument with my partner”. It’s incredible for helping you to process your thoughts and build relationships with other people. It’s also been proven to help people who are suffering from PTSD.

As with every drug you need to understand it and know how much you’re supposed to take - that’s why prescription drugs have doses and leaflets. Legalisation would allow that.

I think they have a dispensation of the law, rather than the law had been changed in that area to make soliciting legal

Are you trying to equate someone having a glass of wine, or a joint, or a pill, to rape?

Nope - local to me there was a managed zone where solicitation was permitted.

It might have stopped now as I've since moved away, but pre covid it was very much a policed area with solicitation permitted and good engagement between prostitutes who were regularly waiting on the street and police.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex,Drugs%26Murder:LifeintheRedLightZone#:~:text=Holbeck%20in%20Leeds%20is%20the%20feature%20of,at%20the%20centre%20of%20the%20managed%20zone.

ETA - the scheme was closed down post covid.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/26155402/britains-first-legal-red-light-district-2pm-sex-gardens/

Actually to be fair OP I might be a good example myself. I have never taken drugs. If the were legal I would be eager to try them. This is partly my age (older and less frightened) partly because I’m sober so don’t use alcohol anymore, so would like a nice experience. I would try weed and psychedelics.

I quite fancy a trip to New York just for the gummies to be honest

when would I take them? At a weekend away, or a dinner with friends. On a Sunday afternoon to enjoy an experience before the slog starts.

I used to think decriminalisation of drugs would be sensible, but looking at the experience of many North American cities that have tried it, I have changed my mind. Unless production and the route to market is very tightly regulated, and efficiently taxed. But I don't think it would be.

If people want to do dangerous things the government should just let them get on with it why should tax payers have to rescue people for their idiocy

Thry want to fry their own brain cells leave then to it

This is such a weird question.

pilll- er….ecstasy?
my child- presume you mean my adult child, as their in a club…. whether I’m happy with them taking drugs or not isn’t actually related to their legality?!?

I’d be a lot happier them doing it if it was fully regulated and tested!! Once they get to a certain age, there’s not really a lot you can do is there? Better to be regulated and tested, same with alcohol.

Would you be happy with your child drinking? Do you think you could stop them if they wanted to?

portugal is significantly poorer then the uk so I don’t see infrastructure etc as a barrier- it’s just a case of choosing to build the infrastructure, which is certainly obtainable if the did it there.

i think the main barrier is they did it 25 years ago tbh. Who knows whether it would have the same impacts if started in 2026.

I agree around criminality- I don’t get the point that they help users and smash drug gangs instead. A drug user wouldn’t be criminalised in the uk- possession etc is effectively decriminalised and any addict in prison would be there for unrelated crimes (although almost certainly one motivated by their addiction) the focus is still on the dealers here?

Of course they can, just proper controls need to be in place. Most supermarkets have full traceability, showing the farms the fruit was picked. These places are inspected and have to report to the inland revenue. There is trafficking and slave labour involved in many products (clothes, food, building materials), if the industry is regulated then people are more aware and choose accordingly.

Well you’d probably have to ask them! But, for example, someone taking a pill on a Friday night at a club. Someone having a joint and a pizza with friends. I like wine with food, a cocktail after work. Some people drink a bottle of vodka at 7am. The possibilities are endless really!

At bit of reading around the topic will tell you why it is bound to fail in the UK. We don't have the support structures in place for legalised drugs. Where it has been moderately successful drug user focused support infrastructure exists covering everything from housing and safe spaces through to treatment. Our NHS is as breaking point - we can barely treat cancer patients or house low income families.

It also doesn't stop exploitation and the criminality around drugs.

Didn't mean to tag this posters.

And? What's that got to do with smoking a joint before work which is what I was replying to.

Your point was daft.

Prostitution in offerring sexual services in a house is legal but soliciting/curb crawling is llegal in UK

Of course I agree that women should be able to do what they want with their bodies in that they can sleep with whomever they want but I won't ever, ever agree with supporting/legalising/legitimising buying sex for money. It is not employment that can ever, ever meet the bare minimum H&S standards, it promotes exploitation, inequality and a culture that contributes to the absolutely catastrophic epidemic of violence against women and girls. If this inconveniences men and the 1 or 2 genuine 'happy hookers' that exist then I don't care. Legalising and legitimising sex work does not even reduce black market demand or make women safer whatsoever. Quite the opposite.

Ethically produced drugs are a whole different subject. It's hard to justify the production and sale of alcohol and not drugs. There would be issues around potential costs to the heath service and good testing to alert for drug-driving etc. same as alcohol. I did read an article a while back about how much the criminals and gangs who currently produce, traffic and sell drugs would oppose legalisation; imagine 'losing' your £multi-billion industry overnight and what lengths the cartels etc. would go to to stop that happening. Not suggesting any sympathy for them (!!), just wondering what is going on behind closed doors and are the politicians/ thinktanks/ media that are against legalisation, really opposed to it on health/moral grounds or are they being heavily motivated by bribes and threats to keep the status quo?

That's a bollocks argument. Booze is legal but you would get sacked for turning up to work pissed

That’s legal now

whats the difference to drinking alcohol? Some people drink only on their birthday and Xmas to celebrate, some people drink from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed.
Why would legalised drugs be any different?