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Dirty Business- The Water Companies are profiteering lying bastards

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Ihatetomatoes · 24/02/2026 23:02

Dirty Business

Just watched it.

Raw sewage onto our beaches and into rivers.

A child died. That poor child, an awful death.
Children and adults ill.
Suicide
Lies
Profits
Misrepresentation of facts.
Overpaid executives.

Throughly disgusting. Executives that nake these decisions should be prosecuted. Shameful. How do they live with themselves profiteering like that.

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Darker · 06/05/2026 13:43

Looks like BBC Radio 4 is covering this story in ‘rinsed’. Starting on Monday 1.45. Omnibus on Saturday.

Ihatetomatoes · 05/05/2026 09:18

Darker · 04/05/2026 17:35

Thanks for sharing

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Darker · 15/04/2026 16:09

Criminal.

MrsMitford3 · 15/04/2026 11:26

So so sad.

And what makes it worse is that it is so preventable

www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-15731847/UK-no-beaches-swimming-spring-revealed.html

whoTFismadelaine · 09/04/2026 18:41

Darker · 09/04/2026 14:29

I enjoyed Hugh Fearnly-Whittingstall on R4 this afternoon advocating for the Pike to be on a currency note. Made a proper dig at the govt for not looking after our waterways.

We also heard this and thought a small line about declining or increasing numbers for animals on the notes would be interesting.

Darker · 09/04/2026 14:29

I enjoyed Hugh Fearnly-Whittingstall on R4 this afternoon advocating for the Pike to be on a currency note. Made a proper dig at the govt for not looking after our waterways.

WaryCrow · 08/04/2026 20:06

Ooh just came across this in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/08/reader-qa-post-your-questions-about-water-pollution-for-sandra-laville

“Companies are arguably already in many cases in breach of their licence conditions on sewage pollution, and in some cases on water supply, given, for example, the multiple supply outages by South East Water in Kent and Sussex. Ewen McGaughey, a professor of law at Kings College London argues the special administration system can be used to renationalise water companies at near zero cost to the public.”

But the politicians here are almost as crooked as they are in America. Not quite, as a mere amateur country, but nearly.

‘Should it all just be renationalised?’ – your water crisis questions answered

Sandra Laville has been reporting on England’s sewage crisis for years. She answered your questions on the water privatisation scandal.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/08/reader-qa-post-your-questions-about-water-pollution-for-sandra-laville

whoTFismadelaine · 03/04/2026 10:32

Sat 25th April is upcoming https://www.soswhitstable.com/
Suggest getting the train as parking might be tricky with big turnouts expected.

SOS Whitstable

https://www.soswhitstable.com

firstofallimadelight · 02/04/2026 20:09

just watched this. Absolutely terrifying, I wish there had been more of a stink about it on sm and in the news it might force more action

WaryCrow · 02/04/2026 18:46

That’s been the business model of privatization since its inception. Public debt, private profit.

Darker · 02/04/2026 16:14

It just feels like the ‘private’ companies are being funded by the taxpayer through the indirect mechanism of increasing utility bills to cover shortfalls.
Truly private companies would just go bust with all the fines and the rest of it.

MyDucksArentInARow · 02/04/2026 15:58

It is interesting that nationalization is not seen as the answer by the government. I would be interested in seeing comparisons between Scottish Water vs the private water companies. Especially like-for-like areas for population density, age of system and rainfall. It would also be interesting to compare investments in infrastructure and maintenance. Scottish Water are not perfect, and have a lot of spill issues too, but the comparison of private vs public owned.
As someone who briefly worked adjacent to the water companies, it is scary that Ofwat fund large programmes to investigate options to upgrade the systems and yet they remain under invested in. In some cases the infrastructure is suitable in terms of volume/capacity but the flow of sewage isn't managed across the system to manage the flow into the treatment plants. In others it is still Victorian infrastructure with some sensors chucked in and not up to the job. It's archaic and horrific.
It's not just the water companies either - industrial farming run off is also polluting water ways. https://riveractionuk.com/campaign/rescue-the-river-wye/#:~:text=The%20main%20culprit%20is%20nutrient,disrupting%20the%20river's%20entire%20ecosystem. Both need to be tackled urgently.

whoTFismadelaine · 02/04/2026 13:29

I do find it funny that they mention how expensive the legal process would be - as if it will be cheaper to poison the country and environment and do all the clear up instead. Someone is still making profit from this or it is being used as leverage for something else with the companies/other countries that are bleeding us dry.

WaryCrow · 01/04/2026 21:22

“Government recognises the strength of public concern about the performance of water companies, “
Lying shits. Liars and thieves.

Ihatetomatoes · 01/04/2026 08:59

Mischance · 01/04/2026 08:42

I've had the message too. I cannot see any government ready to unpick the mess. But worth remembering it has taken some rail companies into public ownership so it could be done bit by bit.

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Mischance · 01/04/2026 08:42

I've had the message too. I cannot see any government ready to unpick the mess. But worth remembering it has taken some rail companies into public ownership so it could be done bit by bit.

NewAgeNewMe · 01/04/2026 08:36

I got that as well @Darker no appetite for it it seems.

Piglet89 · 01/04/2026 08:03

Just read it. I think a lot of it’s nonsense: where there’s a will, there’s a way to unpick things and the mess the water companies are now in justifies that.

Darker · 01/04/2026 07:58

The government have responded to the petition. Full text here:

”The Government recognises the strength of public concern about the performance of water companies, including pollution incidents, infrastructure failures, and the need for stronger environmental protection. We are clear that standards must improve and that water companies must be held fully to account.
Some campaigners have called for nationalisation of the water industry or a move to not for profit public ownership. However, the Government does not believe that nationalisation is the answer. The reality is that it would take many years to unpick the current ownership model, would be extremely complex, and would likely result in prolonged legal challenges, with years spent in the courts rather than fixing the problems people rightly care about.
During that period, billions of pounds of vital private investment needed to repair leaking pipes, upgrade infrastructure, and improve environmental performance would be put at risk or delayed. Nationalisation would also create a significant hole in the public finances, diverting funding away from key public priorities such as hospitals and schools, without delivering faster or better outcomes for customers or the environment.
Independent analysis by the Independent Water Commission found no evidence that ownership models—whether public or private—determine performance. What matters is strong regulation, effective enforcement, and sustained investment. That is why the Government is focused on reforming how the sector is regulated, rather than pursuing disruptive and costly structural change.
This is why we are delivering the most far reaching overhaul of water regulation in a generation. Through the Water White Paper, we are strengthening the powers of regulators, introducing tougher oversight, enabling no notice inspections, and taking a prevention first approach to pollution. We are also increasing accountability by banning bonuses for senior executives when performance falls short, introducing swift and automatic penalties for pollution incidents, and creating new criminal sanctions for those who obstruct investigations. Nationalisation is not the answer—tougher regulation is—and we are giving regulators the teeth they need to act quickly and decisively.
The Water White Paper is also clear that where a water company proposes a transition to a different ownership model, such as a not for profit structure, the new regulator will assess whether this should go ahead and ensure that the interests of customers are properly protected and reflected in any decision.
The Government remains focused on ensuring water companies meet the high standards the public expects, invest in resilient infrastructure, protect bill payers, and restore the environment for future generations—delivering real improvements without the delay, disruption, and cost that nationalisation would bring.
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs”

Darker · 27/03/2026 09:27

The election doorstepping has started and I’m making sure I talk about this issue.

Nearly 300,000 sewage ‘spills’ in 2025.

Darker · 19/03/2026 08:18

Clive Lewis MP had his meeting in Parliament yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1GAENTqDok/?mibextid=wwXIfr

WaryCrow · 18/03/2026 10:09

It went well for the baby boomer generation.

Eventually somebody might look at America now, with its current presidential team and plan to cancel vaccinations for the plebs, and realise just where this culture of greed and power games for the rich take us. Is America going to overturn its government, as it keeps saying other countries should? How?

But I’ve been telling people that for 20-odd years now.