SEND - children’s needs to be reassessed from year 6 2029?

She was diagnosed with PDA! Educate yourself

@Playingvideogames are you running for parliament?
If not, why do you think remarking in the fashion that you are repeatedly doing is helping parents facing the potential changes proposed?

What do you want to happen about children who have special educational needs? I don’t need to hear that it’s expensive and “can’t continue” - what exactly do you propose?

What is a result from school? A job? Is that the dole purpose of education?

Google what PDA actually is.

I am absolutely sure your son's EHCP should not be taken away and I will stand with you to fight for his rights - he definitely should have the support he needs to attend school, and I wasn't saying he shouldn't. I also believe that my DC has just as much right to support to be able to get an education as yours does, so I hope you would stand with me on that.

So if I don’t believe every bad behaviour is autism or PDA, I’m ‘ignorant’?

There are zero signs this child has been properly parented.

I think:
Older parents
Children lacking a basic family structure - it used to be mum, dad, a few kids. Very clear hierarchy. A lot of children live with a single nervy parent and feel they are also an adult. The parent doesn’t know how to discipline.
Parents being urged to gentle parent and see everything as a disability
A void left by smacking where nobody knows how to discipline (no, I’ve never smacked and don’t agree with it)
Too much screen time and tablets rewiring toddler’s brains and blocking them from learning social skills
Junk food exacerbating hyperactivity and bad behaviour
Helicopter parenting creating anxious kids

Because you’re ignorant as regards PDA and autism.

SEND doesn’t go away. Kids that lose provision will still need it and teachers will be the ones expected to provide it which means the rest of the class will find they lose out.

My post wasn’t commenting on what early intervention was in the white paper?

However, there are some elements mentioned such as Best Start Family Hubs and apparently more professional input earlier without the need for an EHCP. As to whether any will actually happen is another matter…

I saw it completely differently. I saw somebody scared of her child, unable to impose the most basic of boundaries. She did whatever the kid demanded she do. She confiscated the Tonie box only for her to snatch it back. I couldn’t see a single boundary.

My reply to someone else also applies to you. You don’t actually know what the law will be. The White Paper is just that. It doesn’t mean that it will definitely become law. Many ideas in White Papers don’t actually make it to legislation.

I went to school in the 80’s and like yourself I can only remember a few kids who were ‘different’
I think the reasons theres more Sen kids is complex but some reasons are-

Children with complex Sen would not be in mainstream schools
Some children with Sen who’s needs were not understood did not thrive and were not suitable for mainstream school
School was simpler (in some ways) meaning some kids who struggle now could have just about manage/ not bother going in
Life was simpler so some sen kids could manage but would struggle in society present day
Better diagnosis/understanding/awareness

What ‘early intervention’ is the White Paper actually putting in place?

More money for TAs? More speech therapists?

I bet the training will have to be done in teacher’s own time!

It sounds like the SENCo’s time will now be taken up writing ISPs for any child who needs ‘reasonable adjustments’.

Thankfully, laws can be changed. Which is what is going to happen, because it's been deemed the laws allowing this sort of thing are no longer appropriate. Will your arguments about 'courts agreeing' be the same when these children are legally entitled to less? It'll be correct won't it, because it'll be in line with the law?

Just because you can push something through courts by arguing very specific wording, doesn't mean it's right and must continue.

@Playingvideogames it's just as accurate to state that we can't afford the number of people in the UK needing cancer treatment. Should we just offer them a head tilt and an Elastoplast instead? Or is it only disabled children who must bear the brunt of disingenuous rationing from this morally bankrupt government?

@Tarkadaaaahling one of the "best" things about these reforms (other than the assumption that teachers are actual wizards) is just how many SEMH children will end up horribly dysregulated and causing mayhem in mainstream schools. One PDA child in a class sends MN into a tailspin of angst over the (very real - my DS is PDA) risk of harm to other pupils and staff. Will states education still be "good enough" if that level of disruption increases (as it inevitably will)?

I think more is needed, not less?

Yes it’s a specific profile on the autism spectrum.

The ignorance from posters who think they can pontificate and lecture about things they know very little about is 🙄

@Playingvideogames online provision isn’t suitable for all. Neither is self led/taught. It isn’t for mine.

People don’t get EOTAS/EOTIS/C just because they want it. It is only legally an option where it is inappropriate for provision to be made in a school or college. Most would prefer their DC to be able to attend school or college.

If I remember her daughter has PDA as well as autism. That has to be handled carefully.

Love it when people say just tell him off and he will stop doing this or that even though my likely autistic four year old is way behind his age and it makes no bloody difference.

I'm already having to accept a 'good enough' education for my children. Absolutely my children would do miles better in an expensive private school with access to loads of arts and music and the resources to enable them to explore stuff like sciences more widely, but tough shit I can't really afford private school and tbh i dont believe in private education so yes I'm accepting a 'good enough' education for my kids.

Mine go to a very average comp with lots of kids with disruptive behaviour, sometimes my eldest comes home quite brassed off because some of his favourite lessons were quite disrupted, that's life, education is provided to us for free and overall it's ok and generally education levels in the UK are high compared to many countries. So yes I'll accept good enough. It's free

Want or feel like they have no choice?

If there are no plans to change EOTAS and my son's EHCP is taken away because he's in mainstream. It will be an avenue I will absolutely be considering if I was able to get him a new EHCP eventually.

They will have left me with little choice.

I'm struggling to understand how that would be possible in my son's case without an EHCP.

Things I've seen such as hubs, speech therapy etc are irrelevant in his case. He has no learning disabilities and is NT, he is perfectly fine in a mainstream class of 30. His support needs are all physical.

If no EHCP, where is the staffing going to come from to support his physical needs? That is my concern.

I watched that. She is a mum at the end of her tether. You don’t discipline away autism.

The ignorance and amount of arm chair psychologists on this thread is hysterical.

But many want EOTAS?

No there would be massive safeguarding risks.Kids need to be in school for mental health and education too. Parents need to work and pay taxes. Abusers could say their kids can’t manage school, the educated would struggle to educate and support their kids and the uncommitted wouldn't bother. Every child deserves and needs a school place that meets their needs