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SEND - children’s needs to be reassessed from year 6 2029?

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missbish · 23/02/2026 06:07

Are they taking the piss? After the struggles parents have trying to secure support for their child, they’re then going to threaten to take it away once they’re due to go to secondary? Ds goes to secondary this year so I don’t think it will effect him but I am so angry for those it does effect.

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StartingFreshFor2026 · 23/02/2026 18:41

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 18:35

You want mostly women to be entrapped by lifelong caring responsibilities toward adult children in nappies who attack them? (Yes I know not all ASD is on this level - but many are including children I know)

My child's like this, so I do understand.

I'm not 100% sure on all my feelings about it to be honest, but call a spade a spade, we're talking about eugenics here.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/02/2026 18:38

Tarkadaaaahling · 23/02/2026 17:36

Lots of non-sen children leave primary school unable to swim despite it being on the national curriculum. Most schools cannot afford to fund enough lessons for children to be taught to swim competently so what is provided is 'good enough' and most parents top up by paying for additional private lessons outside school. Some children's parents don't top up and they don't ever become good swimmers.

As much as my son does get weekly swimming at his SENd school, and it is linked to his sensory input needs, it stands to reason that he’d need more swimming instruction than someone without his cognitive difficulty.

His swimming instructor has put a lot of work into giving children like mine safety in water strategies, because firstly that takes longer than most other children, and secondly our son and others like him have risk taking behaviours/lack of understanding of risk, and need those strategies.

There is no local swimming pool with the service we would need to teach him the same things. SENd sessions are play based, they’re not for learning, and standard lessons aren’t accessible for him.

Last summer he absconded (wasn’t with us at the time), and jumped into a lake. His safety in water skills potentially saved his life, because he knew to push himself back to the surface as soon as his chin went under, and kept doing that until he was taken out of the water. He doesn’t know how to feed himself or go the toilet, but he knew that.

He was 8 at the time. Most 8 year olds understand that water = danger, ours didn’t. That, amongst physical and sensory needs, is one of the reasons why they need weekly swimming lessons.

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 18:35

StartingFreshFor2026 · 23/02/2026 18:34

They mean eugenics

You want mostly women to be entrapped by lifelong caring responsibilities toward adult children in nappies who attack them? (Yes I know not all ASD is on this level - but many are including children I know)

StartingFreshFor2026 · 23/02/2026 18:34

missbish · 23/02/2026 18:32

what do you mean by this ?

They mean eugenics

missbish · 23/02/2026 18:33

Changeusername1989 · 23/02/2026 18:29

My child was dx with autism at the age of 4, it was very clear that he was from a very young age.
No amount of amazing parenting was going to remove the autism.

Same

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missbish · 23/02/2026 18:32

Araminta1003 · 23/02/2026 17:55

On the genetic front, maybe they will eventually figure out how to spot ASD reliably genetically and in the next 20-30 years they will be sequencing most babies genes. There will eventually be progress.

what do you mean by this ?

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Shinyandnew1 · 23/02/2026 18:29

Steamingcupofdarjeeling · 23/02/2026 18:09

Sorry if someone has already mentioned it but it has been made harder to train as an EP in recent years too. There used to be a conversion course that experienced teachers could do but no such thing exists any more!

I hope that changes. As a teacher with lots of SEND knowledge and over two decades experience, I'd love to train as an EP.

It wasn’t even experienced teachers-you just needed a psychology degree and 2 years of teaching to do the Ed Psych MSc.

Now, you don’t even need to be a teacher but need a psychology degree, a couple of years working with children (could be an LSA) but then it’s an extremely competitive doctorate to be accepted on which is 3/4 years with a massive thesis. I think they did it to bring it inline with the clinical psychology level of training.

If they went back to just a one year course, I reckon 90% of teachers would try escape the classroom to do it!!

Changeusername1989 · 23/02/2026 18:29

My child was dx with autism at the age of 4, it was very clear that he was from a very young age.
No amount of amazing parenting was going to remove the autism.

suburburban · 23/02/2026 18:22

firstofallimadelight · 23/02/2026 18:10

I haven’t read the posters posts so there may be more than the part you quoted but I agree societal changes/expectations have impacted on nd people . In some ways for the better for example online communities can be a positive for people who struggle with face to face communication. But in some ways it’s harder, the pressure of confirmation in school, needing qualifications/ further education even for jobs that in the past wouldn’t have required it.
Theres children who in the past would have not really have engaged in school but been able to learn a trade /work outdoors and found a way to live /provide for themselves that now have barriers to doing so.

Yes everything is a lot more competitive

in the past were there more funded schemes opportunities perhaps

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 18:20

firstofallimadelight · 23/02/2026 17:56

Absolutely all of this

Haven’t tradespeople always communicated and done their own invoices? Confused

RudolphTheReindeer · 23/02/2026 18:14

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 17:18

The only option is what they’re doing. Massively curtailing the legal obligations and special school places for SEMH, providing some basic support via mainstream and crossing their fingers. There is no perfect answer.

Where does it say they're curtailing specialist schools and support for those with semh? In fact it can't say that as they're recategorising the areas of send need.

firstofallimadelight · 23/02/2026 18:10

Avantiagain · 23/02/2026 17:53

"I don’t deny there’s a genetic component to it but am pointing out that environmental factors make a huge difference to its impact and the individual’s ability to function in society."

So you are saying my son is severely autistic because of his upbringing?

I haven’t read the posters posts so there may be more than the part you quoted but I agree societal changes/expectations have impacted on nd people . In some ways for the better for example online communities can be a positive for people who struggle with face to face communication. But in some ways it’s harder, the pressure of confirmation in school, needing qualifications/ further education even for jobs that in the past wouldn’t have required it.
Theres children who in the past would have not really have engaged in school but been able to learn a trade /work outdoors and found a way to live /provide for themselves that now have barriers to doing so.

Anyahyacinth · 23/02/2026 18:10

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 14:44

How would that help ‘wheels coming off’ type 12/13 year olds?

Massively ...the correct resources would massively help and save money across a lifetime

Plus taking private profit making providers out of the system

Steamingcupofdarjeeling · 23/02/2026 18:09

Sorry if someone has already mentioned it but it has been made harder to train as an EP in recent years too. There used to be a conversion course that experienced teachers could do but no such thing exists any more!

I hope that changes. As a teacher with lots of SEND knowledge and over two decades experience, I'd love to train as an EP.

RudolphTheReindeer · 23/02/2026 18:09

Tarkadaaaahling · 23/02/2026 17:00

Thankfully, laws can be changed. Which is what is going to happen, because it's been deemed the laws allowing this sort of thing are no longer appropriate. Will your arguments about 'courts agreeing' be the same when these children are legally entitled to less? It'll be correct won't it, because it'll be in line with the law?

Just because you can push something through courts by arguing very specific wording, doesn't mean it's right and must continue.

That's a stretch. You have no idea what any new legislation may say and since eotas is only available to those whose needs can't be met in any school, including specialist provisions, the criteria to access eotas is pretty unlikely to change.

drspouse · 23/02/2026 17:59

Avantiagain · 23/02/2026 17:53

"I don’t deny there’s a genetic component to it but am pointing out that environmental factors make a huge difference to its impact and the individual’s ability to function in society."

So you are saying my son is severely autistic because of his upbringing?

Wasn't me saying this but how your son is educated will help him (or not) function in society.
Oh look! We need better education for children with SEN, not worse! Who'd have thought it!

firstofallimadelight · 23/02/2026 17:56

drspouse · 23/02/2026 17:53

As well as the "lots of children weren't even IN school" that I posted above I'm also fairly sure that the modern world has done a number on a lot of children with specific learning disabilities. ASD - you can't get as many jobs that are outdoors and don't involve too many people. ADHD - very active jobs are less common, manual labour is less common. Dyslexia - if you are a plumber now you can't just be a plumber. You also have to be a social media expert, book keeper, letter writer, and invoice creater.

Absolutely all of this

Araminta1003 · 23/02/2026 17:55

On the genetic front, maybe they will eventually figure out how to spot ASD reliably genetically and in the next 20-30 years they will be sequencing most babies genes. There will eventually be progress.

Avantiagain · 23/02/2026 17:53

"I don’t deny there’s a genetic component to it but am pointing out that environmental factors make a huge difference to its impact and the individual’s ability to function in society."

So you are saying my son is severely autistic because of his upbringing?

drspouse · 23/02/2026 17:53

firstofallimadelight · 23/02/2026 17:05

I went to school in the 80’s and like yourself I can only remember a few kids who were ‘different’
I think the reasons theres more Sen kids is complex but some reasons are-

Children with complex Sen would not be in mainstream schools
Some children with Sen who’s needs were not understood did not thrive and were not suitable for mainstream school
School was simpler (in some ways) meaning some kids who struggle now could have just about manage/ not bother going in
Life was simpler so some sen kids could manage but would struggle in society present day
Better diagnosis/understanding/awareness

As well as the "lots of children weren't even IN school" that I posted above I'm also fairly sure that the modern world has done a number on a lot of children with specific learning disabilities. ASD - you can't get as many jobs that are outdoors and don't involve too many people. ADHD - very active jobs are less common, manual labour is less common. Dyslexia - if you are a plumber now you can't just be a plumber. You also have to be a social media expert, book keeper, letter writer, and invoice creater.

missbish · 23/02/2026 17:53

@PlayingvideogamesCan I ask what your job is, out of curiosity? Of course you don’t have to say if you don’t want to though

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ElishaFelisha · 23/02/2026 17:52

Coffeeandbooks88 · 23/02/2026 17:49

Autism is usually genetic. I doubt any of that is the reason for the rise in cases.

I don’t deny there’s a genetic component to it but am pointing out that environmental factors make a huge difference to its impact and the individual’s ability to function in society.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 23/02/2026 17:49

ElishaFelisha · 23/02/2026 17:38

I agree with all that PLUS:

  • kids and teens are on a global stage now - there’s no outgrowing your hometown and leaving it behind, your embarrassing teen haircut is immortalised. As a result they feel pressured and scared to fail. Learning comes from failing and trying again
  • women / mothers working out of the home
  • huge rise in blended families and unclear expectations across multiple settings
  • parents don’t back or respect authority figures like teachers so why would kids
  • lack of exercise

Autism is usually genetic. I doubt any of that is the reason for the rise in cases.

drspouse · 23/02/2026 17:48

Playingvideogames · 23/02/2026 16:23

Then there should be a basic online package with self lead tuition offered. They can take it or leave it, and do it at their own pace.

Are you suggesting taking away disabled children's rights to a full time education?

safetyfreak · 23/02/2026 17:46

Will these reforms actually save money in the long term?

It looks like there is more pressure on schools, as any child with SEN needs will qualify for an education support plan?