Cannot handle Nigel Farage being PM

They are sticking to guidelines, pp can post anywhere with bad Labour stats.

They can’t silence everyone - as much as they might try

That is a tad dramatic. No one here is silencing you or anyone else. MNHQ will delete anything that breaks the Talk guidelines. If you stick to those guidelines you'll be fine.😊

It’s all good.

They can’t silence everyone - as much as they might try.

It’s becoming increasingly obvious that this government has the economic literacy of the ‘sixth form Marxist appreciation group that meets Wednesday lunchtime in the common room’.

It all sounds great when you’re a student activist railing against capitalism and wearing your Che Guevara T shirt, but in real life it ruins lives and futures.

Probably painful for some to see.

Does it matter? It doesn’t look good for them wherever it’s posted.

I'm not suggesting either one of them will make a successful government. I am suggesting or predicting the right will form the next government.

^This 💯. He’ll find an excuse to stand down if there’s any chance of that happening. Obviously he won’t tell us that it’s because he doesn’t want to do any actual work. Or even actually come to Parliament.

I actually disagree with the OP about Farage’s appearance. He unfortunately looks very presentable and is obviously persuasive to many. Far too smarmy, though IMO. It shouldn’t be about appearance, though, only that a man like him should never be anywhere near power.

As they are the same people that lumbered us with the utter shit-show which is Brexit, I doubt they will ever take ownership of the damage that Brexit has done to the UK.

I watched some interviews with people who voted for Brexit waiting for Big Ben to strike midnight on 31 January 2020 when we officially left the EU. They told the interviewer that it was the happiest day of their lives and when asked exactly why their lives would be better, they all answered 'we've got our sovereignty back' but couldn't articulate any concrete benefits and what that meant at all.

OK I missed the point then.

Can you articulate why you think one of the "Re" parties would make a successful government?

Yes, I have seen it. That is not the point I was making.

It’s everywhere this morning, the Guardian discuss it too.

If they see Labour as a success, I dread to think what their idea of failure looks like. All destraction tactics focusing on Labour's main threat instead of recognising weaknesses within the Labour party and there are plenty of them.

Have you posted on the wrong thread? This is the Telegraph copy and paste stuff you usually post on the LiW thread.

People are getting jumpy, the job figures and soaring youth unemployment won’t help that is directly due to Labour. So it’s go on the attack.

Indeed. It's actually embarrassing reading through the obsession with Farage and Reform. These people are so triggered because their little bubble, which doesn't accord with the real world, is being threatened. I had 3 personal rants aimed at me last night, yes really reflective of much superior intellect.

They think it makes them sound intelligent but.....

If people coming here have to pass English tests, why do we pay millions each year in translation services?

I’m a civil servant and honestly it makes me feel sick thinking what a Reform government would look like, for me personally how it’ll impact my work and thus my life, as well as for the country as a whole. I will vote Tory if I need to, I suspect Reform will do well in my town 🙄

Looks like another u-turn is on the way….

Ministers are considering scrapping Labour’s pledge to pay adults of all ages the same minimum wage after youth unemployment rose to an 11-year high.

At least 16.1 per cent of 16 to 24-year-olds have been unable to find a job, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) and youth unemployment is now higher in Britain than the eurozone.

Ministers are now considering abandoning the policy after business groups told them it is “pricing a generation of young people out of the workplace”, according to The Times.

Three Government sources told the newspaper that ministers feared pushing ahead with the proposals would further push up youth unemployment.

Critical thinking, that phrase again. Same old same old.

Equally, they will split the racist Labour vote. Oh wait..even die hard lefties surely wouldn't be stupid enough to vote them back in 🤔

Thanks- depressing read!

Fat chance! Most of them are Brexit and/or ex Tory voters. They shoulder a huge amount of the responsibility for the mess we're currently in and accept zero responsibility. They're literally trying to make it worse. They are incapable of critical thinking, if they were they, they would see past Farage and his grift.

Nothing racist about thinking the benefits system should be for British born people only

So if your mother is careless enough to go into premature labour so that you are born in another country, you're stuffed for any benefits, pension etc?

Ditto if you're naturalised British - you can pay tax into the British system for decades, but fall on hard times and you can starve?

How is that remotely sensible, let alone fair?