Cannot handle Nigel Farage being PM

I agree he can't be arsed and will stand down, but it leaves the door open for a horror from the Tory party like Braverman or Zahawi.

YANBU for finding him unbearable
YABVVVU for insinuating it would be somehow tolerable if he was better looking.

The only good thing about him being pm is that people will realise very quickly what a stupid thing it was to vote for him

I hope Labour raises its game so it doesn’t happen but I’m not hugely optimistic

I know you won't like the term but this entire diatribe is racist as fuck.

Quite.

I really worry about Vladimir Putin's influence with Farage (and others).

Recommend reading Luke Harding’s Shadow State: Murder, Mayhem, and Russia’s Remaking of the West on Russia’s influence operations in Western democracies and the outcomes of their efforts, including Brexit. There’s an anecdote about Alexander Yakovenko (Russia’s UK ambassador, 2011-19) who, on his return to Moscow post Brexit in 2019, was awarded the Order of Alexander Nevsky by Putin (a major Russian state honour), and reportedly told a fellow diplomat:
“We have crushed the British to the ground. They are on their knees, and they will not rise for a very long time.”

Also the influence of the US evangelical right. The fairly recent (Nov 24 press conference) talk of restricting abortion linked to the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), a U.S.-based Christian legal advocacy group that campaiged for overturning Roe v. Wade before extending its advocacy internationally. How did he manage 30 odd years in politics without commenting on this issue, are they now funding him?

What annoys me is Farage confirmed (“Anger Management” podcast) that his children with his second wife (German) hold British and German passports. His children with his first wife (Irish) have automatic Irish citizenship through her. The thought of his children being eligible for the EU passports our kids cannot now take advantage of makes me fume…. (Obviously they’re their own people and can do what they want…).

But agree with PP he wouldn’t want to put in the work of the daily grind of actually running the country, as shown by his (lack of) efforts for Clacton.

Don’t worry - Reform will have autodigested by the time there’s a GE.

Trump is a sexy rightwing twat now? 😳

😲 if that had been any other politician's nephew there would have been outrage.

And as for "two tier Kier", Farage's own nephew did quite well out of it didn't he?

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/who-is-nigel-farages-nephew-upskirting-where-388926/

A little fine for a sexual offence with a potential prison sentence. Didn't hear Reformers complaining about any injustices there.

(this was further to @Dappy777's post)

Fine, I’ve worked under both a conservative and labour government and little difference day to day. One good thing is better control on spending under this government, T&S etc, cutting down on people spending. Trying to reduce headcount but by reducing the nice to have currently. That’s a good thing in my opinion but still an awful lot that could be done in that space.

Yes but you still chose to give your opinion on her looks when they matter not a jot in her job.

"Immigration has happened on such a scale that it has destroyed any sense of shared culture or shared history."
Immigration rose massively under the Tories and we only started seeing the 'boats' post Brexit. Labour have actually TIGHTENED immigration rules (Immigration White Paper) and have made considerable strides into the huge backlog of asylum applications left by the Tories.

Do you really think Reform, who are all for deregulation and capitalism, would protect your green spaces? Or do you think they would be on the side of the free market and the developers making money and building houses wherever is most profitable? Conservative governments made changes to Planning rules which mean that green belt can be prioritised over brownfield sites, even when locals and councils have rejected planning previously. These are not labour, or left wing policies or changes. These houses weren't built on your green belt due to lefties building houses for foreigners.

I just want to know which other countries have sexy right wing twats? Do you mean Meloni?

It really doesn't matter what any of the politicians look like. I think we all know that.

Oh my lord. Your hypocrisy is staggering!

I agree. But it wasn't me who brought her looks up. It was a pp.

Yes, and no in that order 😂

100%.

Commenting on a person’s looks - particularly in the context of their role, is juvenile and unhelpful.

Kemi's looks have absolutely nothing to do with her job.

And unless she becomes a model, that's the way it should stay.

I don’t think it will be a “majority” of voters. But under FPTP they don’t need a majority.

Says a prolific poster from, what is it, Thread 43 titled ‘Starmer…..’

That’s genuinely funny PS.

Why would I mention Starmer? I was replying to pp's comment about Kemi and Farage.

Not everyone is obsessed with Starmer, unlike your good self.😃

Yes and Brexit drove away more workers and high earners ! But that’s rarely mentioned

I think a lot would resign.

Quite a lot of staff have left our local authority because they were struggling to work under Reform. Not because of the policy as there has been very little actual policy - what I'm hearing is that people just can't cope with the level of chaos and dysfunction.

The concern should be about workers in shortage areas leaving as well as the (mostly manufactured) concern that higher tax rate payers will leave.
We are already seeing an Exodus of doctors to Australia for example and teachers to the Middle East.

Not sure what you mean about the more money in our pockets, presumably you mean I could pay for a tutor to catch up my kid struggling in an underfunded school system and not that I should spend more of my own money propping up and underfunded education system (way too common already).

I wouldn't say either is an ideal outcome?