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Very confused by what dh said

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Loopthepam · 15/02/2026 20:17

Please help shed some light onto this situation because I am utterly at a loss and my head is hurting from trying to understand dh.

Me and DH have been having problems for a while now, mainly revolving around situations that are caused by his lack of consideration or thoughtfulness towards me. Yesterday was the final straw for me, when he passed me over a naff card and nothing else after I had planned a lovely birthday this year and a valentine's gift that wasn't big at all (under ten pounds) but had thought, meaning and love into it. He claimed he had ordered flowers that never got delivered. That was that. There was no incentive to go 5 minutes down the road to get me some flowers, or a small bar of chocolate. Just anything really. The rest of our day was spent arguing with so much tears on my end. After nearly a decade together and DC I'm just over feeling undervalued.

Today me and DH had another conversation following on from yesterday, where he claimed he just "doesn't have the skill set to be thoughtful" he said unlike me who it comes naturally too, he just genuinely lacks the ability and his head is always full of other things that aren't a priority (mostly work). He said he struggles to think of others and never has done (I've heard this ten years ago and thought with time it would improve) it is actually baffling to me.

Here's what I don't get. Because I love DH, doing things for him and thinking of him isn't something I need to master, it just happens. I assumed if you love someone it was part of the package deal to just want to put them first. Dh, no matter how many times he says he will work on this, never seems to be able to. It's like he is almost slightly sociopathic because how can you just have a massive absence of thought towards someone you supposedly love.

He says he loves me and still does, that it is nothing personal and something he has always struggled with. Dh has lead a very selfish lifestyle before me, partying, drinking, no dependants, no worries, parents covered everything, no financial obligations. Could it be true that he loves me but actually does just struggle to consider me? I always thought it was one and the same but maybe it's my bad for generalising and putting that on him. He isn't me and maybe he does love in his own way, or am I being gaslight majorly hard here?!

OP posts:
Tacohill · 16/02/2026 09:58

Muffinmam · 16/02/2026 00:13

I got nothing. I expected nothing.

My partner made me cry by teasing me about my body - laughing as he mimicked the way I walked.

There were other digs he made throughout the day about my weight and letting myself go.

He is such a horrible piece of work.

Why is this better than being single?

I will never understand why women choose to be unhappy in a relationship over being single.

Nicecatneighbour · 16/02/2026 08:26

Agree with PP, there isnt a shop anywhere that doesn't have a red heart shaped something or other, flowers, chocolates, he could have picked up for you. It's the easiest date on the calendar to show your partner some affection. And, he just didn't.
That in itself is saying something to you. It's a statement. And his excuses are also telling you something. Listen to him.

Then do something about it. 💐

Sweetiedarling7 · 16/02/2026 08:16

Selfishness is not a disability it is a choice.
I speak as someone with autism.
This man is a selfish twat.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 08:13

Sweetunicorn1 · 16/02/2026 02:08

You’re expecting your husband to be a woman. He is a man and this is totally normal. So many people will disagree with me I’m sure but men and women are not the same, nor should we be. We think and show love differently. Does he do acts of service for you and your kids?

You're making excuses. Of course a man is capable of caring, being thoughtful. The certainly do it at the beginning of relationships don't they, esp when trying to get their end away!? I don't think there is anything in the male DNA that dictates that it ends after a short time period.

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 08:08

BrendaSmall · 16/02/2026 06:22

I’m surprised half the women on mumsnet are even married the way they treat their husbands 🤣🤣 and their attitudes towards other men!!!

Well, you're being strange. Because you automatically think that informing the wife about career decisions and talking them through means that the wife is going to stop the husband doing anything, or the wives are in control?

You presumed the worst and you obviously think wives attitudes towards other men is bad.. Why? Is your marriage like this? Because whenever my OH has made career decisions, it's done together, same as mine, because that's normal. It also gave me the chance to cheer him on, prepare for interviews etc, supportive.

The OP should be included in life decisions which affect her and their child.

EdithBond · 16/02/2026 07:59

Sweetunicorn1 · 16/02/2026 02:08

You’re expecting your husband to be a woman. He is a man and this is totally normal. So many people will disagree with me I’m sure but men and women are not the same, nor should we be. We think and show love differently. Does he do acts of service for you and your kids?

Respectfully, yes, I disagree with you. It’s not normal for anyone in a loving relationship to behave like this. I’ve cohabited with a number of men throughout my life and none was like this. My 95 year old neighbour treats his wife like a queen. Because he’s kind and loves her. So does my friend’s 25 yr old son with his new wife.

A certain type of man is like this and some women have scraped the bottom of the barrel and not thrown them back in. They put up with it and even excuse it. Like a boiled frog, they think emotional and sexual abuse from men is ‘normal’.

If this man consistently treated important clients at work in such an inconsiderate way, he’d be expected to develop his ‘skill set’ or be fired.

Shamalama56 · 16/02/2026 07:53

Imagine if you werent together and he started seeing someone new.

Do you think he would be thoughtful with her? That's your answer

Comtesse · 16/02/2026 07:36

Renamed · 15/02/2026 20:53

He doesn’t have the “skill set”? What?

OK but you MARRIED him. He lied on his application. That means you can terminate his contract without notice. Or at the least, return to a very extended probationary period.

”skill set” I’ve heard it all now

Yup. I like this way of thinking.

Dancingsquirrels · 16/02/2026 07:23

He could change

But he won't, unless he wants to

Amiacoolorwarmcolour · 16/02/2026 07:16

ilovelamp82 · 15/02/2026 21:00

Nope. He doesn't love you. He loves the comfort of what you provide for him. They start off like that at the beginning, or you wouldn't have stuck around. If he wanted to, he would. Even if it doesn't come naturally to him, you've told him what you want to feel loved and he's decided that your not worth the effort of trying. Doesn't take a genius to put a regular alarm in your calendar reminding you to buy some flowers/make you a nice meal/give a compliment for goodness sake. He doesn't want to. Why would he change? He's got exactly what he wants. And you stick around for it. If you try to leave, he'll pretend he's a changed man to get you to stick around. It won't last long.

Beyond all this, it sounds like he rapes you. So get out and don't look back.

This.

LondonLady15 · 16/02/2026 07:13

My ex husband was like this. I think some people are just inherently selfish. Signs were there early on and he never changed. Best thing I ever did was to eventually accept it wasn’t enough for me and I divorced him. Had a few nice years on my own and now with a new partner who is the opposite of selfish. The most thoughtful, kind and generous man. I would never be with someone selfish again it can really knock your confidence and self worth.
Get rid of him.

JetFlight · 16/02/2026 06:52

He is sexually and emotionally abusing you.
If he is claiming he’s not thoughtful or this is just the way he is, he is tying it to his identity and won’t change.
As for love languages? I’d be surprised if op comes back and says “oh he does so many nice things for me though”. He didn’t say “I thought I’d do this nice thing for you”. He lied. Pretended he’d ordered flowers then put the blame elsewhere. This is not a good person.

You could tell him “ok, if it doesn’t come naturally to you so make it a task that on Valentines, Mother's Day and on my birthday, you need to buy me a gift, just like I’ll buy you a gift. This is a relationship task, just like you have work tasks.”
If he cares about what’s important to you, he’ll take time to listen and act.
But sorry op, you do need to consider and question what is going on in this relationship because it’s abusive.

BrendaSmall · 16/02/2026 06:22

Happyjoe · 15/02/2026 23:26

You're being strange.

I’m surprised half the women on mumsnet are even married the way they treat their husbands 🤣🤣 and their attitudes towards other men!!!

Poppleton123 · 16/02/2026 03:13

So your husband does things sexually without your consent ie rape, he lies and is selfish with no attempt to change. YANU to stay with him. Know your worth and get out

RawBloomers · 16/02/2026 03:12

"Could it be true that he loves me but actually does just struggle to consider me?"

I think people like this don't actually love you they love what you do for them. Love having you around because of how good you make their life. They are users. When you can no longer make their life better, they will leave you and find someone else.

There is nothing in what you've said of him that indicates he actually loves you.

Sweetunicorn1 · 16/02/2026 02:08

You’re expecting your husband to be a woman. He is a man and this is totally normal. So many people will disagree with me I’m sure but men and women are not the same, nor should we be. We think and show love differently. Does he do acts of service for you and your kids?

Francestein · 16/02/2026 01:44

Time to stop protecting him. Tell all your family, his family (especially his mother) and all your friends. Make sure HE’S embarrassed and humiliated. Make sure you tell them that HE’S made the choice and he won’t give her up. Your DH isn’t going to cope with the identity crisis this causes. He is attached to the good guy identity that includes being a faithful husband and a family man.

Cherryicecreamx · 16/02/2026 00:41

If if doesn't come natural to him then he needs to make an effort! He knows these gestures mean a lot of you and it is just what you do for your wife to show some appreciation. He's a competent man who is able to work, so he's able to put a reminder in his phone if he needs to!!

Happyjoe · 16/02/2026 00:16

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 16/02/2026 00:12

My dad was like this. Thoughtless, selfish, entitled. He left my mother 6 months after she had a heart attack that nearly killed her. He was annoyed that his wife appliance wasn't functioning. He saw her only once at hospital, and only because my sister forced him. He was irritated, pacing moodily, said 5 words to Mum. My Mum had a million tubes coming out of her and on her face as she watched him pace was an expression of fear that I will never forget.

Men.like this will use you up until there is nothing left. Then they'll hop to the next woman without a single qualm.

Op, he'll never be there for you when you need it. This is NOT a man to invest yourself in.

That's truly awful, am sorry what your dad did to your family. I hope your mum made a full recovery and you guys all doing ok now.

Muffinmam · 16/02/2026 00:13

I got nothing. I expected nothing.

My partner made me cry by teasing me about my body - laughing as he mimicked the way I walked.

There were other digs he made throughout the day about my weight and letting myself go.

He is such a horrible piece of work.

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 16/02/2026 00:12

My dad was like this. Thoughtless, selfish, entitled. He left my mother 6 months after she had a heart attack that nearly killed her. He was annoyed that his wife appliance wasn't functioning. He saw her only once at hospital, and only because my sister forced him. He was irritated, pacing moodily, said 5 words to Mum. My Mum had a million tubes coming out of her and on her face as she watched him pace was an expression of fear that I will never forget.

Men.like this will use you up until there is nothing left. Then they'll hop to the next woman without a single qualm.

Op, he'll never be there for you when you need it. This is NOT a man to invest yourself in.

BrickBiscuit · 16/02/2026 00:06

Buscake · 15/02/2026 20:23

My exhusband was like this. He never changed. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Quite. Why would you expect men to change?

Tacohill · 16/02/2026 00:02

I am someone who struggles to
show emotion and affection.

I really struggle with romance and buying thoughtful gifts etc doesn’t come naturally to me.

But I still manage to make a bloody effort and I manage to get people things that they like, even though it’s not something that comes very naturally.

If this was a general issue of you feeling undervalued then it would perhaps be different but for things like Valentine’s, birthdays, Christmas etc there is absolutely no excuse because they’re the same date every year and he is more than capable of buying you something or asking if you want to go for a meal/to the cinema.

I personally don’t celebrate valentines but he knows this is important to you and it literally takes a matter of minutes to go into Tesco and buy a box of chocolates.

I would make the same effort he does from now on.

AsleepOnTheCarpet · 15/02/2026 23:53

@Loopthepammy apologies.
Didn’t read your updates before posting.

I’m with others, LTB and fast.
The points that were the biggest red flags for me:

  1. He changed as soon as you were pregnant.
  2. Sex stuff without your consent - because you know what that is called, don’t you?

With that, in your next relationship please don’t put as much weight on Valentine’s Day as you currently are.
DH and I have our own day and it is brilliant, a happy secret between us.

Piglet89 · 15/02/2026 23:44

Inthedeep · 15/02/2026 21:52

Is he an only child and is he incredibly enmeshed with his parents? Also what is his parents relationship like?

He sounds pretty awful, if you want to make the relationship work, he needs to put in a lot of work. I’d suggest counselling at a minimum.

The only child tropes are utter bullshit and really offensive. I’m an only child and I’ve managed never to sexually assault anyone because I’m not a selfish, abusive cunt.

Jesus.