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AIBU to be upset about daughters removal?

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AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 13:54

I’m genuinely seeking the opinion of people who aren’t emotionally tied to this and am completely open to hearing if I’m in the wrong.
My daughters have been at the same cheer club for four years. I’ve always had what I thought was a good relationship with the head coach/owner, and she has genuinely helped my daughters develop.
Over the past year, training increased significantly, and so did the cost. What had been around £450 per term for both girls rose to around £1,400 per term. The owner acknowledged that this was a big jump and offered most parents monthly payment plans. I was paying just under £450 per month to keep the girls training.

Across four years, I’ve raised three concerns:

  1. Progression/communication – One year there were no competitions, and sessions are closed to parents. At the end-of-year showcase, my daughter performed the same routine she’d done the year before. I was confused, as I’d regularly asked how she was doing and had always been told sessions were good. I raised that I would have appreciated clearer communication if she was behind or not progressing as expected.
  2. Competition scheduling – At one competition, my daughter’s solo slot (and another child’s) was moved in a way that meant the rest of the team wouldn’t be present to support them. The owner said it would be unfair to expect other families to change travel plans. I understood that. However, she then said that if our girls didn’t support them before they flew back, they wouldn’t be allowed to compete. Myself and the other childs parents felt the expectations weren’t being applied consistently and raised that concern.
  3. Uniform reveal filming day – The club announced an exciting uniform reveal/photo day. However, children whose uniforms were still being paid off on instalments couldn’t take part despite it being a 'team event'. I queried this privately, saying I understood the business side but felt it could feel excluding to the majority of children whose parents were on payment plans (which had been offered to parents by the club to support affordability as costs were previously around £400 a term, but gone up to about £1400 just speaking for myself).

Following this, the owner said the club no longer felt like a fit for our family and ended both girls’ memberships. My daughters are devastated - I've been paying this years fees since September for a mix of tumble solo and Cheer team, cheer choreography camp, routine days, etc. Their first competition of this season is in March and she's removed them.

There were no safeguarding concerns, no aggression, no public confrontation – all concerns were raised privately and in writing.

So AIBU for raising these 3 concerns over time? Or does ending the children’s places feel disproportionate in this situation?

I genuinely want perspective.

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Designless · 11/02/2026 14:54

This sounds like a ginornous scam

honeylulu · 11/02/2026 14:53

Bloody awful. I'm assuming it's a popular club with a waiting list hence she can just dictate what she wants and boot out anyone who challenges her because it won't affect cash flow.

My son did gymnastics in his younger years and he was in a long waiting list and then had to audition to get in.
The club was actually very well run and professional but they had high standards about attendance, behaviour and expectations and kids did get booted out much to the indignation of the parents sometimes. Once my son was in year 9 I think he had to attend an extra session on a weekday evening to act as assistant coach in one of the younger groups and that was compulsory in order to stay in the club. (It would have become a modestly paid role after 6 months but covid happened before then and he never went back to club.)

But I agree with you that the coach wasn't just about high standards but some quite unrealistic demands - I think the power went to her head! The victimisation of the payment plan kids was just plain nasty.

Hope your daughters find and enjoy a new club.

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PurpleThistle7 · 11/02/2026 14:48

I think you’re well out of it and it’s great that you can find something new. My daughter has been doing dance at the same school for years (she’s 13) and just joined the comp team this year. It’s a bizarre setup and I actually think the competitions are a form of pyramid scheme. It’s actually been brilliant for her (she’s autistic with selective mutism and this has really helped her socially) but I don’t think this is helping her into a career in dance or anything like that as it’s such a weird insular environment. And so much money. So much.

am sure you’ll find a better fit when you dust yourself off. You and your kids are clearly motivated and they must be hard workers to train that hard so there are other opportunities out there for them.

AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:48

MajorProcrastination · 11/02/2026 14:43

That's extortionate. One of my children did gymnastics for years (22 hours a week, elite squad etc) and was very happy, progressing well, had a few changes of (excellent) coaches through the years but the last one was awful, he'd make other gymnasts cry. It stopped being fun and I didn't want my child in that situation. I communicated my concerns with the leaders and he left. He joined another sport, started from scratch and now as a young adult is doing very well in it, has had amazing supportive coaches who have player wellbeing and continued involvement at the heart of everything. He's made great friends through it, it's been great for his physical and mental health and self worth. It costs us £100 for the whole year because it's volunteer run.

I've worked in dance (not cheer) and competitive dance blows my mind, it's not how professional contemporary and ballet companies and dancers work. The competition element can get really unhealthy and can push future dancers out of something they should be able to love for the rest of their lives.

On their own, your 3 issues can seem a bit niggly but put together it starts to build a picture which leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

It's sad to move on sometimes when its been such a big part of your lives but finding another club where they're happier and you're all treated more fairly will be best in the long run.

wow 22 hours a week - incredible dedication. Totally agree my issues could probably seem a bit meh as isolated issues, and to me - they still weren't something I was making a HUGE deal out of, just communicating because she doesn't have kids of her own and sometimes I think she forgets that it's children who are impacted by the very adult decisions she makes.

Super sad that it ended this way - it's funny because we were leaving at the end of the term anyway as I felt cheer had no real progression route and wanted to put them into something with a bit more longevity - but would be nicer to have left on better terms.

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AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:44

Newyearawaits · 11/02/2026 14:40

Unethical behaviour by the club with particular reference to uniform reveal day.
I would consider putting in a formal complaint to relevant body

I looked into this and it's such an unregulated area that I don't think it's even possible to complain to anyone outside of the club itself. Which is annoying

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LetMeGoogleThat · 11/02/2026 14:44

This sounds like the Cheer leading equivalent of Dance Mom's! Surely, it's better to find another squad that values your girls.

MajorProcrastination · 11/02/2026 14:43

That's extortionate. One of my children did gymnastics for years (22 hours a week, elite squad etc) and was very happy, progressing well, had a few changes of (excellent) coaches through the years but the last one was awful, he'd make other gymnasts cry. It stopped being fun and I didn't want my child in that situation. I communicated my concerns with the leaders and he left. He joined another sport, started from scratch and now as a young adult is doing very well in it, has had amazing supportive coaches who have player wellbeing and continued involvement at the heart of everything. He's made great friends through it, it's been great for his physical and mental health and self worth. It costs us £100 for the whole year because it's volunteer run.

I've worked in dance (not cheer) and competitive dance blows my mind, it's not how professional contemporary and ballet companies and dancers work. The competition element can get really unhealthy and can push future dancers out of something they should be able to love for the rest of their lives.

On their own, your 3 issues can seem a bit niggly but put together it starts to build a picture which leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

It's sad to move on sometimes when its been such a big part of your lives but finding another club where they're happier and you're all treated more fairly will be best in the long run.

AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:42

NorwayTruce · 11/02/2026 14:34

I had a club like this. When I finally found the courage to point out that there hadn’t actually been a noticeable difference in a year and things were actually going backwards the leader stopped my membership and immediately went into full character assassination mode telling everyone who would listen all about what a terrible person I was and how I had said dreadful things about them. Sadly some people think they are so important that they just can’t cope with being challenged. She just wasn’t a good club leader and didn’t have a clue what she was doing but constantly banged on about how she’s done it for 35 years and knows everything, which would have made her still at primary school when she started work! On more than one occasion she blatantly copied something she’d seen on a TV program about the topic pretending it was one of her own routines. 😂

It's absolutely shocking and I guess boils down to a lack of regulation where they can just decide they don't have to let your child attend anymore - It blows my mind that they consider themselves to be child focused businesses when they are free to act impulsively even if the child is the one who suffers.

Copying off the TV and claiming it's hers is outrageous lool can't make it up can you!

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Newyearawaits · 11/02/2026 14:40

Unethical behaviour by the club with particular reference to uniform reveal day.
I would consider putting in a formal complaint to relevant body

NorwayTruce · 11/02/2026 14:39

I think you can safely assume this is the reason other kids just suddenly disappeared from training. Maybe do some digging. You will probably find similar stories.

MarioLink · 11/02/2026 14:39

I'm sorry your daughters are upset but I think it's for the best you leave as that team sounds horrible! Use the money to get your DDs into something else like dance or gymnastics and use the rest of the money to treat the three of you to something.

Bluebigclouds · 11/02/2026 14:38

You aren't being unreasonable but they sound awful so maybe you can find a better place?

Sc00byDont · 11/02/2026 14:35

Ooh no idea how I managed to make big text 😂

Sc00byDont · 11/02/2026 14:34

The business owner has done you a favour. Great! Now you can spend much less and your girls will get more opportunities elsewhere.

Depending where you are in the uk and their ages, move your girls to a British Gymnastics accredited club for any of Tumbling, TeamGym, trampoline, artistic gymnastics, aerobic gymnastics or acro
Their cheerleading background will give them a head start. If they are older than 10 I’d probably not go for artistic but look at one of the other disciplines.
you will pay much much less and there will be many more opportunities for them to shine. And trust your gut, if you don’t like the feel of the head coach, try a different gym.

Alternatively check out performance dance troupes, synchronised swimming, diving.

lots of alternatives for fit, motivated kids

NorwayTruce · 11/02/2026 14:34

I had a club like this. When I finally found the courage to point out that there hadn’t actually been a noticeable difference in a year and things were actually going backwards the leader stopped my membership and immediately went into full character assassination mode telling everyone who would listen all about what a terrible person I was and how I had said dreadful things about them. Sadly some people think they are so important that they just can’t cope with being challenged. She just wasn’t a good club leader and didn’t have a clue what she was doing but constantly banged on about how she’s done it for 35 years and knows everything, which would have made her still at primary school when she started work! On more than one occasion she blatantly copied something she’d seen on a TV program about the topic pretending it was one of her own routines. 😂

AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:34

Ohcrap082024 · 11/02/2026 14:24

My interpretation is that you have complained 3 times so she sees you as “tricky” parent. She has decided that she wants you out of the club before your complaints spread to others. To get you out, she dumps your kids.

I think she is unprofessional and with all the changes she has brought in, the owner is perhaps struggling to keep on top of things.

I think you are correct that she does not like to be challenged. Most of us don’t to be fair. But her response is poor.

I also think that you are paying through the nose for all of this. Sounds very similar to experiences my friends have had with gymnastics over the years.

Totally agree. She said "the communication has become unmanageable because you're challenging my integrity". I explained multiple times that it wasn't a personal attack, that I was simply stating excluding children from a team activity because their parents are using a payment plan you offered them is unfair.

I've too heard similar horror stories from other gymnastics clubs and think the general consensus is that parents learn very quickly to shut up and put up which is unfair

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Hairissueshelp · 11/02/2026 14:26

I would be livid.
How many people does she have paying that amount every month?
10/ 20, she could be raking in 350k a year from teaching cheer for two hours a day and treats her clients like slaves at the same time.
Absolutely bonkers that anyone would pay that price but clearly they are and now you arent.
Lucky escape.

Sedentarty · 11/02/2026 14:25

On the face of it your concerns seem very valid. However some people running clubs can be very cut throat and dont like any sort of query.

Tbh they dont sound very good not doing new work etc.

We had similar where my kid (audhd) was removed from an activity. I had questioned something (about getting a badge where the rules clearly said you could do a video but obviously my kid couldnt do in person due to anxiety. ).
Anyway not only did they remove my kid from the club, they wouldnt allow them to move to next level for over a year. And removed their sibling!
Ironically it was a crisis that pushed us towards diagnosis

Ohcrap082024 · 11/02/2026 14:24

My interpretation is that you have complained 3 times so she sees you as “tricky” parent. She has decided that she wants you out of the club before your complaints spread to others. To get you out, she dumps your kids.

I think she is unprofessional and with all the changes she has brought in, the owner is perhaps struggling to keep on top of things.

I think you are correct that she does not like to be challenged. Most of us don’t to be fair. But her response is poor.

I also think that you are paying through the nose for all of this. Sounds very similar to experiences my friends have had with gymnastics over the years.

AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:23

Weeklyreport · 11/02/2026 14:19

You're clearly not happy with the company and haven't been for a while so you probably should have removed your daughters already. The uniform thing sounds rather harsh on the children. The manager has simply decided that it's more effort than it's worth to have your kids stay part of the club. It sucks for them but maybe you can find a club more suited to what you want.

How many weeks are in a term? Because while paying £1400 for 2 per term sounds a lot, it also sounds like you are getting a total of 8 sessions across a week and maybe some extras. If you work out the cost per session then you can compare the costs of training with other clubs. Unfortunately you may find this is just the going rate.

Thing is - outside of those isolated situations, I was happy with the progress the girls were making and they were super happy there. I have quite a good relationship with the head coach which is what makes this all so much stranger. We often chat for 30-40 minutes after pick up about life, we text - so I was even more bewildered at the response.

The money isn't really the issue - I think it was fine for what we were getting, the girls were there 5 days a week so it worked out about £115 a week for 8-9 hours - which isn't bad. It was more that she offered a payment plan because she knew the costs were high and most parents are not in a position to pay the whole term fee upfront; but then used it as a way to exclude the kids who had no control over their parents finances.

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Hairissueshelp · 11/02/2026 14:20

Absolutely crazy. And the most expensive club ai have ever heard of!!
Although training 5 times a week I suppose per session it might be value for money.
Is there another club anywhere nearby?
The owner sounds insane tbh

AbFab1231 · 11/02/2026 14:19

CmonBobby · 11/02/2026 14:14

I think you’ve been a boiling frog in this situation, it gently got madder and madder and you didn’t notice and you’ve just accepted over time paying thousands, your daughters being worked like dogs, and being scared of the manager.

We had a very similar situation with a football team and woke up one day and thought WTF and left (before we were pushed tbf). DS, after about fifteen minutes upset, was fine and actually once the sadness wore off we all realised it was all mental and have never looked back.

This is a GOOD thing, probably a great thing for the whole family. Just take a breather until
after Easter and then think about joining another team or pivoting to a new club. Keep it fun. Even if your girls are destined to be professional tumblers/cheerleaders (vanishingly unlikely) then they won’t fall behind having a a couple of months out and then keeping training to a normal level for a child.

Totally agree. When you're in an environment where things aren't quite right - but everyone else just complains behind the clubs back and never says anything - you kind of just get used to that. There were so many things in hindsight. Like her asking if she could use our kids for marketing pictures for the club and then telling us if we want to see the pictures we have to pay for them which is hilarious.

Totally right about cheerleading being a pretty dead end career in this country - I wanted to move them to gymnastics anyway so I guess she's made that easy to do.

Gutting for your boy, but glad he was ok fairly quickly.

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Weeklyreport · 11/02/2026 14:19

You're clearly not happy with the company and haven't been for a while so you probably should have removed your daughters already. The uniform thing sounds rather harsh on the children. The manager has simply decided that it's more effort than it's worth to have your kids stay part of the club. It sucks for them but maybe you can find a club more suited to what you want.

How many weeks are in a term? Because while paying £1400 for 2 per term sounds a lot, it also sounds like you are getting a total of 8 sessions across a week and maybe some extras. If you work out the cost per session then you can compare the costs of training with other clubs. Unfortunately you may find this is just the going rate.

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