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To wonder why people keep voting SNP?

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Carla786 · 31/01/2026 05:34

I don't know a lot about Scottish politics and I may be missing important things they've done. However, I used to have a lot of respect for Nicola Sturgeon but her handling of gender critical issues has destroyed that. The SNP do not seem very effective at reducing drugs, poverty, or other serious issues.
My understanding was that quite a few people vote SNP not because they want independence (which most Scots appear to not want) but because they think the SNP are more committed to Scotland sorcifically than Tories and Labour. How accurate is this though..?

Since most Scots appear to not want independence, I thought the SNP was probably high achieving in other areas & Tories & Labour seen as poor by comparison. Or is it more often seen as the best of 3 bad options? Or is SNP much more positive than the impression I've got?

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 12:05

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:05

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 12:03

Paywall. The record article was debunked as soon as it was printed.

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Just use a paywall blocker like every other normal person.

https://archive.ph/Z5J2f

and no. The record article was not “debunked” 🙄

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 12:05

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:01

Glad you are admitting he was in a female prison. The female staff are not happy having men in the prisons either btw.

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As per the UK equality act 👍. Anyway, the same people seem to derail every thread to rant about 0.1% of the population so thread is ruined again!

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:04

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:21

No they’re not.

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Explain the court case then? 🙄

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 12:03

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:00

I see you are ignoring the others on the thread saying the same. Clearly not just an isolated experience.

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I haven’t. I said the same to other poster moaning.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:01

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:40

48 hours in isolation 👍

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Glad you are admitting he was in a female prison. The female staff are not happy having men in the prisons either btw.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 02/02/2026 12:00

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:06

Could be just him.

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I see you are ignoring the others on the thread saying the same. Clearly not just an isolated experience.

Waitwhat23 · 02/02/2026 11:56

A reminder of the words of James Morton, the then CEO of Scottish Trans who were a major driver of the SPS transgender policy -

'We strategized – we strategized – that by working intensively with the Scottish Prison Service to support them to include trans women as women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances, we would be able to ensure that all other public services should be able to do likewise’.

Males being placed into the female prison estate (including until last year violent male sex offenders - Isla Bryson was one of many - Katie Dolatowski is another high profile one) wasn't done as an accident or a misunderstanding. It was (and continues to be) SPS policy. They were going to place Andrew Burns/Tiffany Scott, described as 'the most menacing offender in the Scottish prison estate', into a women's jail until the Isla Bryson backlash.

The SPS/Scottish Government are still placing violent male offenders in the female prison estate. And are preparing to argue in court their right to continue to do so.

Anyone who is aware of these facts and continues to argue that males should be incarcerated with vulnerable women (80% of Scottish female prisoners have had a head injury, mostly through domestic violence) is a straight up monster.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:54

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:52

I’m going back to ignoring you. 👍

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Oh no 😂.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:52

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:51

From the person citing The National?! As I said, one article. The others are behind paywalls.

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I’m going back to ignoring you. 👍

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:51

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:50

In the Sunday Post? 🤣

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From the person citing The National?! As I said, one article. The others are behind paywalls.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:50

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:47

So you didn’t read the article. Your responses are getting quite embarrassing.

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In the Sunday Post? 🤣

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:47

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:44

I thought she’d been in herself or actually knew some of the inmates.

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So you didn’t read the article. Your responses are getting quite embarrassing.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:47

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:44

Irrelevant. He should have been 48 hours in isolation in the MALE prison.

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Tory? Reform?

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:46

Nanalovesnature · 02/02/2026 11:40

I live in the West of Scotland and I think less people where I live will vote SNP, and fewer people are in favour of independence than used to be. But we have an SNP MSP and they will get in again next election I have no doubt. I believe we will have more people voting SNP and the reason is we have a very high percentage of people on benefits in Scotland and our benefits are more generous than in England and the people who are in receipt of these benefits will vote for the party that gives them the benefits and allows them to live very comfortably without having to even pretend to look for a job. There are more of these people than there are people working and paying tax, and for those of you in England who think you have it hard, we pay higher taxes here than you do to pay for all the people of benefits.

Jesus 🤣

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:44

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 02/02/2026 11:28

Here’s one article. The others are behind a paywall. You’re a fan of google, you could’ve done it yourself.

https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/female-inmates-living-in-fear-of-abuse-by-trans-prisoners/

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I thought she’d been in herself or actually knew some of the inmates.

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:44

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:40

48 hours in isolation 👍

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Irrelevant. He should have been 48 hours in isolation in the MALE prison.

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:43

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:25

Yes, they ARE! Stop lying!

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Do you live rurally? Who are you voting for in May?

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:40

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:24

Oh do go away with your patronising misogynistic bs. And it is irrelevant how long he was in for.

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48 hours in isolation 👍

Nanalovesnature · 02/02/2026 11:40

I live in the West of Scotland and I think less people where I live will vote SNP, and fewer people are in favour of independence than used to be. But we have an SNP MSP and they will get in again next election I have no doubt. I believe we will have more people voting SNP and the reason is we have a very high percentage of people on benefits in Scotland and our benefits are more generous than in England and the people who are in receipt of these benefits will vote for the party that gives them the benefits and allows them to live very comfortably without having to even pretend to look for a job. There are more of these people than there are people working and paying tax, and for those of you in England who think you have it hard, we pay higher taxes here than you do to pay for all the people of benefits.

ThatBlackCat · 02/02/2026 11:26

Differentforgirls · 02/02/2026 11:22

Yes and it didn’t say that. Which part of Scotland do you live in?

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It most certainly does say that. If you cannot understand what it says, then why do you think it is saying then?