To be depressed that lockdown would happen again tomorrow if there was another new disease

Anyone who tested positive for Covid at death were recorded as a Covid death, despite their actual cause of death. Died in a car crash? Covid. Died of a heart attack? Must be Covid.

When the numbers are so skewed and manipulated it becomes useless for comparison.

So your household only cares about risks to children not to adults ?

Agreed

I don’t want to minimise the impact of the pandemic but on the scale of “how bad could a pandemic get?” this wasn’t anywhere near as bad as it could have been.

Also we shouldn’t forget that, though we’re still dealing with the after-effects, life has long since returned to ‘normal’. There was definitely a period where it felt like we were dealing with a “new normal” of on-going restrictions of one sort or another and that would simply be how we lived.

Last night i posted on a thread a link to an article about SH tenants being forcibly evicted so that four hundred SH homes could be demolished and replaced with two hundred and thirty more expensive homes. The reply i got?
GOOD.
And thats just one example of how SH tenants are spoken about on here. Im also on a thread posted by an Mner who is on minimum wage and worried about her pension. Several posters told her she isnt trying hard enough. Oh yes six years ago it was we are all in this together then as i predicted at the time it was straight back to the default setting of hating on SH tenants and key workers.

I didnt fall for the we are all in this together crap the first time round and IMO less ppl will fall for it again. A little while back there were murmurings about face masks being brought in for the flu. Back in twenty twenty when some of us said we may be expected to wear masks for the flu in future we were called conspiracy theorists

Agreed! Some wilfully ignorant people out there who should only be commenting on threads on lasagna, hair removal and toilet paper ! 🧻 💩

Exactly this.

Yes people would comply like last time, because otherwise the NHS would go under and then it won’t just be affecting the sick or elderly that are apparently, from some of these comments, disposable, it’ll be affecting everyone. Children too.

I don't think it would happen, we have data on the positives and negatives of the last one and I don't think the country would shut down in the same way again.

My husbands dad died in June 2020. His cause of death is recorded as Covid. He didn’t die of Covid, he died of the massive brain tumour he’d had for 3 years.

By we I mean our household, not we as in the whole country.

Why would we only comply if children were more at risk and not adults? I’m happy to protect adults as well as children …

I worked in the lockdowns, mixing with every Tom, Dick and Harry but wasn't allowed to mix with my family or friends, I obviously did because I was out in the wild anyway.

Can't read 22 pages to check. Has anyone pointed out yet that Sweden didn't lock down and their death rate was way l lower than ours and about 40 other countries?

Lock down was not the only valid and effective strategy.

Sorry but I got Covid at the very very start and I can’t even tell you how terrible it was. I used to hike, cycle, I could barely walk and got chest pains . Age 40 and I looked like a 90 year old. I know a few people who died after getting it. I’d lockdown again BUT I absolutely would not judge people who didn’t and think they the rules at the end were ridiculous

How frustrating. I could never get hold of people in other gov depts (Hmrc being the worst, still is) due to people wfh.

Yes I'm aware of the relevant figures. There were more than 200k excess deaths during the pandemic so my 100k figure is actually quite conservative.

Who is "they". Do you mean ONS, medics? I'm referring to deaths that list COVID as the primary cause, which is widely regarded as the best metric of COVID mortality. There were around 175k deaths in which COVID was listed as the known primary cause.

Is that enough for a fuss? How many more would you like?

Most people would voluntarily do it if they believed they were personally at serious risk. Some people wouldn’t but I’d wager a small minority.

It was the Civil Service, part of DWP. It was entirely desk-based, back of house operations, so no public interaction. The role could have been done entirely remotely from anywhere in the world with an internet connection. Presumably they didn't want to pay for thousands of people to get set up with remote working equipment, despite asking everyone else to do so.

Not even 3rd highest in Europe, never mind in the world.

Where on earth did you get that statistic?

My mum died of a stroke during that time. On her deathbed they were still swabbing her for COVID. If shed have come up positive on the day she does then shed have counted as a vivid death, despite the fact she was dying anyway. I'm sure there are many more people this applies to

Must have also been v hard. Just pointing out to pp that lockdown was far from a nice little break for many.

It still wouldn’t be allocated in the way the pp wanted though.

If you have health anxiety you need to do something about it and get some help. Worrying about something that might never happen won't do you any good.

I would comply because what choice would I have?My nearest and dearest are young children and my parents have chronic health conditions and dad has had cancer. I'm also getting older myself. Dh would be able to wfh and I would simply give up work (work in healthcare) to ensure schooling for my children as they are now school age. I'd make a conscious effort to save money and maintain my weight as both went to pot last time. Last time dh had to try to work and look after a 2 and 3 year old which meant he relied far too much on plonking them infront of a telly or a phone but I would not let that happen again. I'd work a Saturday if needed.I wouldn't take on the stress I did last time and would put my health and wellbeing of myself and dc first.

Things would definitely get much more unpleasant than they did last time, that's for sure.