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Labour Voters. Honest question

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Tryingtodobetter82 · 29/12/2025 23:46

I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

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EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 18:14

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:10

Yes

Holding politicians to account is important.

Did you defend Johnson?

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Ok well prepare for unsubstantiated rumour than as questioning, if you want the same. Don’t complain when Starmer and co get similar. About their personal life, wife, children whatever.

It’s the political world some want. I’d prefer not to for anyone, in answer to your question.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 18:13

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:10

Yes

Holding politicians to account is important.

Did you defend Johnson?

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I don’t tell or insinuate lies about politicians. Nobody should. Not even you.

As for Johnson, an unlikeable man. But nothing like as bad as Labour’s painted him.

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:10

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 18:06

No wrong doing then, but use it as much as possible. Are you ok with similar for Labour?

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Yes

Holding politicians to account is important.

Did you defend Johnson?

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 18:06

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:03

Are you just another unpleasant right-winger?

I said it is valid to question those things, not that they did do anything wrong.

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No wrong doing then, but use it as much as possible. Are you ok with similar for Labour?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 18:05

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:03

Are you just another unpleasant right-winger?

I said it is valid to question those things, not that they did do anything wrong.

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Don’t be obtuse.

Unless you have any good reason to question Sunak’s conduct you’re just being obnoxious.

Hufflemuff · 31/12/2025 18:04

I think they are lesser of 3 evils.

Reform - racists
Conservatives - will sell off the NHS/had a decade to sort things and didnt.
Labour - just shit, but better than "shit and racist" or "shit and happy with austerity"

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 18:03

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 17:58

What evidence do you have for any wrongdoing by Sunak?

Or are you just another unpleasant left-wing rumour-monger?

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Are you just another unpleasant right-winger?

I said it is valid to question those things, not that they did do anything wrong.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 17:58

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:55

Go where?

The labour lie conspiracy?

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What evidence do you have for any wrongdoing by Sunak?

Or are you just another unpleasant left-wing rumour-monger?

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:57

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:55

Go where?

The labour lie conspiracy?

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?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 17:56

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:44

Plenty of that about Starmer plus the absolutely vile personal comments about Rayner.

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‘Personal comments’ is completely different to scurrilous lies and abuse about private lies.

If you don’t like Badenoch or Davey or Polanski, be rude. That’s fair enough. But attacking Sunak’s wife or circulating bollocks about dodgy loans is wrong.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 31/12/2025 17:56

araiwa · 30/12/2025 00:46

How shit are labour? They've had 18 months to fix 14 years of the Tories shitting all over the country and they haven't managed it yet.

Indeed. You imagine they'd fix 14 years of corruption and waste in a year, wouldn't you 🤔

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:55

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 17:53

Oh dear, here we go again.

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Go where?

The labour lie conspiracy?

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:55

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:52

Why are you making this personal, ES?

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Idk if you feel bad about that question, maybe it makes you think what you’ve added to the debate about female politicians and how Labour are enduring similar.

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:54

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:49

Did you speak up for Truss, Braverman, Patel or more recently Badenoch?

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I criticise their policies without resorting to abuse or namecalling. I will always call out racism or sexism.

Truss was an exception with lettuce.

You? Do you speak up for female labour MP's?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 31/12/2025 17:53

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:32

No, not excusing anything. Racism should be called out everytime. As does the abuse directed at Starmer's family and friends.

Akshata Murty non dom status, covid businesss loans, father's business interests in the UK are valid to question. Like Sunak's green card he forgot about.

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Oh dear, here we go again.

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:52

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:49

Did you speak up for Truss, Braverman, Patel or more recently Badenoch?

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Why are you making this personal, ES?

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:52

Labour did this, mn included, they’re feeling it now. What a shame.

BIossomtoes · 31/12/2025 17:51

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:49

Did you speak up for Truss, Braverman, Patel or more recently Badenoch?

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Did you speak up for Diane Abbott or Angela Rayner? That’s rhetorical, by the way.

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:49

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:48

Female politicians always get a lot of abuse on MN, it always surprises me from a forum for women.

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Did you speak up for Truss, Braverman, Patel or more recently Badenoch?

BIossomtoes · 31/12/2025 17:49

I didn't say it was just people on the left, just to clarify. I don't like it anywhere.

Agreed. There’s a very long history of political name calling on both sides. Apparently it dates back to Roman times. It’s unedifying and childish and neither side can claim the moral high ground. It’s six of one and half dozen of the other.

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:48

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:44

Plenty of that about Starmer plus the absolutely vile personal comments about Rayner.

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Female politicians always get a lot of abuse on MN, it always surprises me from a forum for women.

TheNuthatch · 31/12/2025 17:45

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:32

Yes there was.

It was horrible, as was that thread about CJ, if it is the one I am thinking of. There are horrible rumour mongers across the political spectrum. The notion that it is just people on the left is for the birds.

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I didn't say it was just people on the left, just to clarify. I don't like it anywhere. Wives and families should be out of bounds imo. The awful stuff about CJ was not confined to that specific thread.

I am pointing out that many think that its fine to throw shit at Sunak and Johnson's wives, and it is rarely called out by those on the left. I've also seen it recently towards Farage's girlfriend.

I don't think it was right of Starmer to go after Sunak because of his wife's non-dom status either. He tried to make a villain of her for political gain.

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:44

TheRishi · 31/12/2025 17:31

"who would ever shag Boris. Ewww" I remember that stuff

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Plenty of that about Starmer plus the absolutely vile personal comments about Rayner.

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:42

PandoraSocks · 31/12/2025 17:39

I am obviously not going to name the poster!

As for attacks on Sunak's wife, well I am sorry but I can't remember what I did or did not object to on MN 18 months ago. But if someone had posted similar about Sunak I would have objected.

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I didn’t ask you to name anyone but I’ll take that as a no you didn’t, perhaps you contributed?

Labour set the scene on this, got in on the back of it the slurs and attacks. They can’t complain now they have the same. They created it.

TopPocketFind · 31/12/2025 17:42

EasternStandard · 31/12/2025 17:36

I’m pleased that Rishi and Kemi get a lot of support on other SM.

Labour used what they could to get in, on here by supporters too. It’s a bit late now to lament the level of debate.

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It is good to hear they receive support especially as the far right are aiming their racism at them. Not British according to Restore Britain and some Reform councillors/candidates.

Badenoch could do with getting a grip on racism in her own party too, see Jenrick, Philps and Lam's deportation plan for example