Labour Voters. Honest question

So, what has starmer achieved up to now.
In no particular order:
Given billions away to the Chagos Islands
Given our fishing rights away
Fucked over the private school system.
Fucked over private business enterprise
Reneged on his "no tax rise" policies
Fucked over the pensioners and disabled then U turned.
Made working for a living pretty much pointless by giving huge UC rises
Fucked over the farmers.
Gave train drivers a big rise with no conditions attached
Conspired with Merseyside police to cover up the Southport stabbing perpetrators identity.
Jailed those who made their feelings clear over the whole fiasco.
Hasn't smashed the gangs.In fact more and more arriving almost every day.
And finally.... the cherry on the cake (drum roll) made it his top priority as UK premier to allow in aan anti semitic jihad supporter who openly Hates Britain, white people and Jews, and declared how delighted he was to accommodate him Ta-daaaaa!!!!

But is it right wing press or are people just pointing out Labour are lieing? Even from your list, most claims are quite easily proven false. Instead of 6500 new teachers there are actually 1350 fewer teachers, instead of more GPs there are fewer GPs per capita, instead of ending train strikes there have been almost double the amount of strike days in 2025 compared with 2024. Smash the gangs ? Theres been a 10% increase in illegal immigration.

That’s before you get to the ideological argument in favour of £95 billion in tax increases, taxing education, authoritarian policies on free speech, identity politics around ‘working people’ etc. covered up with creative black holes, accounting, accusations of being far right and dodgy statistics.

I think this has got to be the most unpopular Government I’ve ever lived through, I saw a prediction of them only having 5 seats after the next election which I can well believe. They are deliberately malicious driven by really sinister motives that very few people agree with.

I wouldn’t say corruption on the same level but if you’re after my personal opinion:

Mandelson is vile
Reeves should have gone
Raynor should have stayed

but don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Yep voted for them last time and would again. Possibly with a bit less enthusiasm but when the alternative is either Farage or Badenoch or some horrible combination of the two then I'd still crawl over a mile of broken glass to do it.

I don't know whether it's social media or what, but I swear most of the UK's adult population are like dozy kids with tiny attention spans these days. The Tories really did leave a terrible legacy to be sorted out, the UK faces pretty serious demographic problems anyway, and there is all sorts of shit going on in the world that is really very unhelpful. Yet because Labour/Starmer haven't delivered a land of milk and honey in 18 months people are once against turning to a charismatic charlatan selling simple solutions, this time in the form of Nigel Farage. If anybody thinks he's got the interests of ordinary working people at heart then they are fucking gullible idiots.

No, I don’t think corruption happened. All the contracts were vetted by the civil service.

Some contracts were bad, but that was because the government was trying to keep people alive in the middle of a global pandemic. It was an unprecedented scramble.

GLP lost every single challenge on PPE procurement. The VIP lane was held technically unlawful because of a European procurement regulation. The breach was so minor that the court refused to grant a declaration of unlawfulness.

I think it looks very, very bad for Labour to lie about this and to try to score political points from it. Labour’s website pre-election went on and on about supposed PPE corruption. Crickets now.

The ‘corruption czar’ reported last month. Nothing about corruption at all. Just some bad contracts, such as they were.

HTH.

This was done only yesterday. Getting boring now
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5466477-does-anyone-still-support-this-labour-government?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

In defence of Labour (or for that matter any other party in power) the impossible task is getting policy actually implemented. Any new policy will be watered down and delayed by the Civil Service, there will then need to be exceptions made to placate backbenchers, it will then face legal challenges or conflicts with existing legislation or regulations etc. All to the point where the original policy is watered down to the point where it becomes ineffectual.

Secondly they are in an impossible situation economically , they can't increase debt (as Liz Truss found out the hard way), if they cut spending then their backbenchers will rebel and if they increase taxation then the economy will simply further slow.

As a criticism of Labour, I really don't think that they think through the secondary impacts of their policies, for example the restrictions on WFA meant an increase in those eligible to claim for pension credits meaning that the savings were much less than forecast , the VAT on private school fees meant that wealthy parents pre paid, less wealthy parents switched to the state sector meaning revenue raised is much less than forecast. The removal of the non dom tax benefit meant that wealthy individuals simply left the country meaning net tax revenue went down.

No. You should blame Ed Milliband for Brexit.

Its impossible to change a whole country in such a short time.

How does that work with Labours manifesto promises? And with the things they’ve done but didn’t mention in the manifesto?

Do you feel that the PPE contracts during COVID were well-managed and handed out fairly, including the use of the VIP lane? Do you think any contracts were handed out because they were donors to the Conservative Party or friends of MPs - and if you do, that was ok?

Hard to take but I doubt you’re alone.

Well that’s kind of how our system works. You vote for your representative and pester them to improve local issues. That’s it.

What new policy has Labour enacted that brings about a cashless society ?

I feel exactly the same.

This!
Would hate not to vote as people fought so hard for universal suffrage but beginning to think abstention is my only option.

The f* up that is Brexit (and I blame the tories for this entirely) is very difficult to fix.

This. I'm utterly appalled. Took a chance on them and bitterly regret it.

There isn’t a shred of evidence for any of that. (Apart from the world shattering allegation of parties 🙄).

Thank you for proving my point so effectively. 👍

Labour ran a campaign of lies. They have no complaint about any coverage of them.

The right owns most of the major newspapers and news outlets ... not surprisingly, that distorts the public's perception of all things political.

That’s great, for you and other locals. Sadly it’s down to a particular individual, which is so often the case in many areas of life.

It was absolutely hilarious when Stephen Kinnock tried to claim that Labour has already smashed 240 gangs on Question Time though.😂

Yes people have the right to keep their vote private but no one's forcing them to click on this thread. Equally, people could vote on this thread but not comment and then their voting intention would still be private so I don't see the problem.

Whereas elsewhere, the number of people waiting more than a month for a GP appointment has soared under Labour - far from reducing waiting times, they've achieved the complete opposite.

I’ve voted unreasonable because there was a very similar post up earlier this week and I’m more curious as to why people keep highlighting the same question. I smell a rat There are polls and threads but also the peoples right to keep their vote private between them and the ballot box which is why the polls are often wrong

'Smash the gangs' was never going work. Smash one and another dozen will pop up to fill the gap. Pointless drivel peddalled out to pacify growing concerns.