Labour Voters. Honest question

In what sense was the country “bankrupt” in the 1990s ?

This is the most ridiculous post I have read this year.
The level of cognitive dissonance showed by Tories is staggering
I am no fan of Labour but to claim that Labour never takes responsibility for anything after the last shitshow of a govt is quite extraordinary!

My ‘version of history’? You mean the factual representation of events? The one where Ed miliband stabbed his brother in the back?

Pfft. Labour’s bankruptcy of the country in te 1970s and 1990s is conveniently forgotten. 🙄

Ahh, so I see this is how you respond when someone gives you the very example you were demanding 🤣

I know Cameron was a terrible prime minister in myriad ways, taking the lazy privileged way out at every opportunity and leaving his unemploy able mate Osborne to wreak financial havoc, but to wipe out his chosen actions from your version of history is quite something. Still, typical Tories, never willing to take responsibility for anything.

Oh dear. The usual Labour head in sand approach. There’s no point discussing it if you don’t want to see the truth. Labour Never take responsibility for Anything. Frightening.

I know Cameron was a terrible prime minister in myriad ways, taking the lazy privileged way out at every opportunity and leaving his unemploy able mate Osborne to wreak financial havoc, but to wipe out his chosen actions from your version of history is quite something. Still, typical Tories, never willing to take responsibility for anything.

Bless. It’s quite straightforward. I understand that as you’re a die hard Labour supporter (ref your post up thread saying you’ve voted for them every election), you’d never be able to contemplate thoughts that contradict your Labour view of the world. Cognitive dissonance and all that. Classic.

Eta: Aside from the other issues referenced, the fact remains that if Ed miliband hadn’t stabbed his brother in the back - Dave M would’ve won the election. We’d not have had a referendum. Kept it simple for you.

It so isn't virtue signalling. It's being civilised. Caring for the elderly, the disabled, children.

It's very very sad that you think anyone who cares about that is virtue signalling.

I’m not on benefits but I am better off under Labour. Inflation is down, interest rates are down. These were on a rising trajectory under Conservative, they were also planning income tax increases.

Thats just inaccurate. Inflation was 2.1% when conservatives left office and is now 3.1%. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices

Interest rates were in a downward trajectory since March 2024 and would have gone down faster if not for tax burden fed inflation (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98wyyk475no)

You've just demonstrated you are worse off under Labour using the exact measurements you claimed showed you to be better off.

Correct, but Labour are not doing that - unlike Reform who are obsessed with flags.

You can’t run a country on virtue signalling.

You can’t run a country on virtue signalling.

Actually, they don't do a lot for me either. But it isn't what they do for me personally that I vote for (often unlike Tory voters - who actively vote to be better off). I vote based on who cares the most and will do the most for those at the bottom of society.

I feel im as common and working class as they get, but labour does nothing for people like me

I find it telling that apart from “Labour bad” you can’t give any examples of how the alternatives would be any better, and don’t even try let alone struggle to defend the Tories abject performance or explain Reform’s cloud cuckoo nonsense (understandable, no one could).
Fwiw, I’m not on benefits, and I, personally, am financially better off than I was 12-18 months ago, I’ve had a bump to my (teacher’s, ha) salary and, even without that, feel like money goes further now than it did before (of course, unfortunately I’m still not a net contributor, so realise my views are totally worthless and I should leave politics to the betters).
No doubt you will dismiss this and tell me none of this is a result of Labour’s actions, and sadly unlike you I don’t haven’t got a load of “facts” to hand to “prove” my opinions, so yes it might be a total coincidence. I don’t care, fact is right now Labour are in power and I’m materially better off, whether it’s by accident or design.

Oh do make up your mind. Critical thinking or cognitive dissonance (which doesn’t mean what you seem to think it does)? Which is it?

Don’t you think it’s telling that you can’t think of a single example of anyone not on benefits better off under Labour ?
Don’t you think that it’s telling that instead of recognising facts, you accuse people of being paid because they keep pointing out these facts.
Quite simply, this Government is indefensible. That is why you’re struggling so much.

If David Milliband had won, I would probably have voted for Labour.

I’m not looking to start an argument on this subject. I know it’s a very heated and emotive topic.

I have strong views on political issues. What with algorithms and biased news organisations, it’s very easy to end up only seeing information that confirms what we already believe. Because of that, you don’t often hear the other side of the political divide.

I’m honestly curious whether those who voted Labour at the last General Election, for reference I did not, would vote the same way if there were an early GE in January, purely hypothetical of course.

If so, I’d really appreciate you sharing what you feel they’ve done right so far in their term. I’m asking as I genuinely want to understand different perspectives.

YABU - I would vote labour again
YANBU - I wouldn’t vote for them again (or ever have)

Oh yes - I did read that too. I thought that was excellent. Not because it’s a Tory vote - but because it shows critical thinking.

I’m hoping reform fizzle out by the next election tho.

I think you might be playing pigeon chess.