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To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?

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Twiglets1 · 27/12/2025 20:14

Reported in The Telegraph today that Sir Keir Starmer has welcomed an alleged Islamist extremist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, into the UK.

The Prime Minister said he was “delighted” that Alaa Abd el-Fattah had arrived from Egypt on Friday evening after a travel ban imposed by Cairo was lifted following lobbying by ministers.

Mr Abd el-Fattah, an activist with dual British-Egyptian citizenship, previously said that it was heroic to kill Zionists “including civilians”. He urged Londoners to burn Downing Street, told his supporters to kill police and said he hated white people.

Ministers are facing calls to revoke his British citizenship, which he was granted in 2021 while imprisoned in Egypt, where campaigners described him as a “prisoner of conscience”.

Sir Keir’s tweet yesterday said how “delighted” he was that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in this country. Does that seem a reasonable stance to take for someone who has claimed at the same time to be committed to "eradicating antisemitism in the UK"?

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pancakestastelikecrepe · 28/12/2025 07:38

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Erin1975 · 28/12/2025 00:11

Part of the job of being Prime Minister is having to greet and welcome people who you disagree with or dislike. The monarch also has to sometimes pretend to like people they despise.

This is not one of those times. He didn't have to apply diplomatic pressure abd he certainly didn't have to publicly celebrate.

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Twiglets1 · 28/12/2025 07:34

Unless someone agrees with the views expressed by this extremist re hatred of white people, Jews, homosexuals, police etc then I can’t see why they would celebrate him coming to the UK. Whatever their own political views whether Left, Right or centrist.

You would expect this to be something our politicians & the MN community could agree on. At least the vote suggests it is something most of us agree on.

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NCReceptor · 28/12/2025 07:32

I’m genuinely perplexed as to what is this right wing grift you keep alluding to Thortour?

It is alarming that some Western politicians, media, and human rights activists have sanitised Alaa Abd El-Fattah’s story and ignored his deeply concerning political views.

People have every right to know why British officials are ‘delighting’ in his arrival to the UK when he holds such views and to have concerns over how this may end.

Thortour · 28/12/2025 05:28

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TooBigForMyBoots · 28/12/2025 02:26

Islamic extremism is far right.

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 02:16

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 01:27

Here we go. Knew the far right would have to come into it 🥱

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It's interesting that being against Islamist extremism and terrorism elicits accusations of being 'far right'. What a totally bonkers world we live in.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/12/2025 01:34

Why are the government so concerned with this person? Did we do this much to get Mandela released?

WTAF?🤯😵‍💫🤯

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 01:29

Erin1975 · 28/12/2025 00:11

Part of the job of being Prime Minister is having to greet and welcome people who you disagree with or dislike. The monarch also has to sometimes pretend to like people they despise.

😆 🤣

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 01:28

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The denial is strong with this one.

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Here we go. Knew the far right would have to come into it 🥱

Lolapusht · 28/12/2025 01:12

From what I have seen, this guy:

Got UK citizenship in 2021 while in prison
His mum was born to Egyptian students studying in the UK and resided in the UK from 0-2 years which is why he was given citizenship (how can that be the criteria??)
He was one of the “leaders” of the Egyptian Spring
He’s been in prison for years
He may be a member of Muslim Brotherhood
He is a raging anti-Semite, racist, mysoginist, homophobe and all round vile individual
He may have a daughter in this counter
He was posting support for the hunger strikers earlier and reposted something slagging off KS for not doing more to get him released

Why are the government so concerned with this person? Did we do this much to get Mandela released?

pancakestastelikecrepe · 28/12/2025 00:54

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So your issue is not with a man threatening extremist violence on multiple occasions but with anyone who notices?

What grift are you part of? Why is it so important to you to minimise this man’s disgusting rhetoric and denigrate those who won’t let the Kier Stammer’s inexplicable decision to announce himself ‘delighted that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in the UK’ pass without comment?

EmeraldRoulette · 28/12/2025 00:40

Erin1975 · 28/12/2025 00:11

Part of the job of being Prime Minister is having to greet and welcome people who you disagree with or dislike. The monarch also has to sometimes pretend to like people they despise.

Straw manning or genuinely misunderstanding?

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/12/2025 00:20

tinytemper66 · 27/12/2025 22:17

James Cleverly supported him as did Rishi Sunak. He came a British citizen in 2021 apparently. So not just supported by Labour.

If so many politicians across the board think he's worth listening to, maybe he's making a bit of a point(?).

Thortour · 28/12/2025 00:19

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dottiehens · 28/12/2025 00:15

Why the prime minister put the citizens at risk like this? He is supposed to protect his own country over security concerns.

Erin1975 · 28/12/2025 00:11

Part of the job of being Prime Minister is having to greet and welcome people who you disagree with or dislike. The monarch also has to sometimes pretend to like people they despise.

Jonnyenglish · 27/12/2025 23:57

AlecTrevelyan006 · 27/12/2025 23:38

this sums it up nicely:

https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/2004924947215352150?s=46&t=VO7BWgMBVguGKTtZCKOxtw

‘We spent hundreds of diplomatic man hours negotiating the return of a foreign prisoner who has no personal link to Britain, then on his way back we found out he was a jew-hating psychopath who supports the murder of cops. Then when he got home we let him walk free, unlike Graham Linehan who just tweeted some jokes about trans people and was greeted by armed police at the airport. Oh and while he was on his way home the guy in question was openly attacking the UK government that freed him from foreign prison’

How are you meant to retell that story and not sound like an ‘end is nigh’ fantasist?

usually the devil is in the details what the public get told vs what the security services know etc

AlecTrevelyan006 · 27/12/2025 23:38

this sums it up nicely:

https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/2004924947215352150?s=46&t=VO7BWgMBVguGKTtZCKOxtw

‘We spent hundreds of diplomatic man hours negotiating the return of a foreign prisoner who has no personal link to Britain, then on his way back we found out he was a jew-hating psychopath who supports the murder of cops. Then when he got home we let him walk free, unlike Graham Linehan who just tweeted some jokes about trans people and was greeted by armed police at the airport. Oh and while he was on his way home the guy in question was openly attacking the UK government that freed him from foreign prison’

How are you meant to retell that story and not sound like an ‘end is nigh’ fantasist?

Calgie (@christiancalgie) on X

‘We spent hundreds of diplomatic man hours negotiating the return of a foreign prisoner who has no personal link to Britain, then on his way back we found out he was a jew-hating psychopath who supports the murder of cops. Then when he got home we let...

https://x.com/christiancalgie/status/2004924947215352150?s=46&t=VO7BWgMBVguGKTtZCKOxtw

notimagain · 27/12/2025 23:29

@EmeraldRoulette

Unfortunately, politicians just seem to think it's part of life and some kind of necessary evil in order for them to have their crazy careers.

One theory is that's possibly because at a very senior level the pollies in the UK are relatively well protected from the consequences of their decisions...(yes, I know the rank and file MPs are exposed)

If MPs weren't surrounded by all the barriers and roaming armed patrols around Westminster, and senior officials were more inclinded to travel by bus/tube without protection they might share the concerns of a lot of the general population.

EmeraldRoulette · 27/12/2025 23:19

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I've lost the plot what people are trying to say with the lighting candles comments

I have also been bereaved as a result of a terror attack. I have a huge amount of rage. I absolutely do look back in anger and I think it's a damn fool who doesn't

Unfortunately, politicians just seem to think it's part of life and some kind of necessary evil in order for them to have their crazy careers.

Aislyn · 27/12/2025 23:17

EmeraldRoulette · 27/12/2025 23:15

@Aislyn but you seem to only be worried about this now

This has been going on for ages

Repeating myself sorry, but one thing about this is it may highlight stuff that people are unaware of. Where are people getting the news? Hopefully not the BBC.!

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I didn't say I am only worried now, but this highlights the utter lack of background checks going on.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 27/12/2025 23:16

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/12/2025 22:31

Extremists injured and killed my family, my friends. No Debate and purity spirals acted as cause and catalyst.

I remembered , lit candles for all of them this Christmas.✨️

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Yes we light candles. We are, as I am, sorry for the loss of anyone due to an extremist act. Its awful.

A point of this thread might be though why welcome people who tweet the hatred he spouts here?

The next attack will highly likely be islamist extremists. We light candles and then we welcome them.