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To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?

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Twiglets1 · 27/12/2025 20:14

Reported in The Telegraph today that Sir Keir Starmer has welcomed an alleged Islamist extremist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, into the UK.

The Prime Minister said he was “delighted” that Alaa Abd el-Fattah had arrived from Egypt on Friday evening after a travel ban imposed by Cairo was lifted following lobbying by ministers.

Mr Abd el-Fattah, an activist with dual British-Egyptian citizenship, previously said that it was heroic to kill Zionists “including civilians”. He urged Londoners to burn Downing Street, told his supporters to kill police and said he hated white people.

Ministers are facing calls to revoke his British citizenship, which he was granted in 2021 while imprisoned in Egypt, where campaigners described him as a “prisoner of conscience”.

Sir Keir’s tweet yesterday said how “delighted” he was that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in this country. Does that seem a reasonable stance to take for someone who has claimed at the same time to be committed to "eradicating antisemitism in the UK"?

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Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 17:13

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/12/2025 16:15

IMO It’s usually just sloppy and CBA.

Same as people mentioning ‘Judy’ Dench.

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Another one with bizarre priorities.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 17:02

Labour can’t claim tweets aren’t that important after jailing someone for one. They either care enough to check or not.

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 17:00

user1471453601 · 27/12/2025 20:30

@Twiglets1 I have no opinion on the person you're talking about.

I do, however have an opinion on people like Yaxley Lennon and thought we might have a commen cause - people we don't want in this country.

You could read the article and screenshots. But I suspect you're just pot-stirring and deliberately derailing.

notimagain · 28/12/2025 16:54

Makes you wonder what else our elected reps of all parties have signed as supporting over the years without carrying out due diligence...

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Twiglets1 · 28/12/2025 16:42

An updated article in the Telegraph says a backlash against the decision to bring Mr el-Fattah to Britain intensified today, with Iain Duncan Smith becoming the first MP to express regret for having previously supported his case.

He was one of around 100 MPs who signed a 2023 letter to the Foreign Office urging the then Conservative government to do more to secure his release.

Sir Iain said: “I do… regret signing the letter calling for the release of Alaa Abd el-Fattah, given his views, that have since come to light, are utterly abhorrent. Had I known of these, I would not have signed the letter. I urge the police to investigate the nature of these extremist comments.”

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Gloriia · 28/12/2025 16:27

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/12/2025 16:15

IMO It’s usually just sloppy and CBA.

Same as people mentioning ‘Judy’ Dench.

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Does it matter? We all know who we're talking about.

OonaStubbs · 28/12/2025 16:25

Does Keir Starmer write his own tweets?

Alexandra2001 · 28/12/2025 16:21

EmeraldRoulette · 28/12/2025 14:45

@Alexandra2001 yes of course the media keep stories until it suits them to use it

But that's irrelevant in this situation

Keir Starmer opened up the whole thing by tweeting about it himself. It would've gone unnoticed if he hadn't done that.

I doubt that, at least 2 Prime Ministers has personally intervened to get him released (Sunak and Starmer)

Both thought/were told he was a jailed human rights activist.

James Cleverly is supposed to have voiced his pleasure at his release too.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/12/2025 16:15

Thisismadness · 27/12/2025 20:48

Is it still considered ‘funny’ to spell Keir as Kier or is that a genuine typo? Hard to know sometimes

IMO It’s usually just sloppy and CBA.

Same as people mentioning ‘Judy’ Dench.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/12/2025 16:14

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 15:59

Then there is nothing to stop the police/CPS from prosecuting him too, using that same law, and showing everyone that they treat all British citizens equally when it comes to hate speech and advocating violence. No excuse. We will see what they do now and whether justice really is meted out equally.

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Statute of limitations has passed. The posts are over a decade old.

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 16:10

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 15:59

Then there is nothing to stop the police/CPS from prosecuting him too, using that same law, and showing everyone that they treat all British citizens equally when it comes to hate speech and advocating violence. No excuse. We will see what they do now and whether justice really is meted out equally.

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Can he actually be prosecuted under British law? At the time of the tweets he wasn't living in the UK and he wasn't a British citizen.

JohnTheRevelator · 28/12/2025 16:02

Nothing surprises me about Keir Starmer now.

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 15:59

Alexandra2001 · 28/12/2025 14:03

She was prosecuted under a law introduced by Margaret Thatcher in 1986....

You do realise its the Police/CPS that charge people and the courts that sentence them?

Govts of all colours have nothing to do with any of this and long may that be the case.

Regardless, he should have his citizenship revoked and sent back to Egypt.

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Then there is nothing to stop the police/CPS from prosecuting him too, using that same law, and showing everyone that they treat all British citizens equally when it comes to hate speech and advocating violence. No excuse. We will see what they do now and whether justice really is meted out equally.

notimagain · 28/12/2025 15:51

@AlecTrevelyan006

Thanks for that link...the whole story gets stranger by the minute and you have to ask WTF were the UK politicians (of all shades) thinking...

HRTQueen · 28/12/2025 15:50

Starmer needs to make a statement

while supporting this man’s release due to him being a British citizen it doesn’t mean he is a man that the government should welcome with open arms and celebrate his return

If his pr team were managed they would know this and such a positive tweet would not have been released and I hope an apology is made accepting he should have known rather than a half hearted apology with lame excuses

I don’t really care who highlighted his background the PM’s team have to be on top of such messages that are released

Fluffyholeysocks · 28/12/2025 15:48

To be honest, I'd never heard of this man until KS announced his delight in his arrival in the UK. What I can't understand is why all these celebs and actors were tweeting and posting their support of this man? Were they lobbied to do so? And who by? Why him? There's something very odd about this whole affair.

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Ablushingcrow · 28/12/2025 15:39

Marinetrained · 27/12/2025 21:09

He’s a member of the Muslim brotherhood. The Egyptian government imprisoned him as they know exactly what that means and what his intentions are. Idiot westerners like KS and his ilk don’t, so classified him as a prisoner of conscience. Muslim countries understand well the dangers posed by the Muslim brotherhood and other Islamists. They don’t want to end up like Afghanistan or Iran. Western idiots don’t which is why we end up importing extremists like this man. Apparently it’s worth it to feel like we are not racist. All Muslims are good Muslims, right?. Let’s not distinguish between them 🙄

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This this this. Spot on.

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 15:29

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:08

Surely that’s to the people exposing the tweets. I doubt Starmer wants the scrutiny of drought / prioritisation.

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That is why I used the phrase "roundabout way". The tweets were exposed a decade ago, but no-one in the media or the previous govrnment or the present government seemed to care until yesterday. Of course Starmer won't welcome the controversy.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:22

Drought = delight.

The BBC looks like they regurgitated the gov press release going by below. Mention celebs and not the tweets.

HappyFace2025 · 28/12/2025 15:21

notimagain · 28/12/2025 14:57

Exactly.

I wonder if as far as the PM's thinking went the human rights advocate part of his brain kicked in and he saw it as an opportunity to trumpet the release of an activist (whatever that means) from the clutches of what some regard as an authoritarian regime, something the Tories didn't manage in their term of office....

Pity a Sir Humphrey or equivalent didn't step in and say "Prime Minister, do you really want to phrase your X that way...in fact do you need to post anything at all".

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'Pity Sir Humphrey' ... Exactly this. WTF are Starmer's aides doing? Not their job, that's for sure.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:08

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 14:59

Keir Starmer opened up the whole thing by tweeting about it himself. It would've gone unnoticed if he hadn't done that

Well in a roundabout way, Starmer has done us all a favour as we know now how abhorrent Abd el-Fattah's views are.

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Surely that’s to the people exposing the tweets. I doubt Starmer wants the scrutiny of drought / prioritisation.

Gloriia · 28/12/2025 15:03

Twiglets1 · 28/12/2025 14:12

They still could revoke his citizenship seeing as he has dual citizenship and wasn't born a UK national.

I don't know what would be more embarrassing for them at this stage - to keep him or deport him back to Egypt.

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He's got to be deported surely and have British citizenship revoked. Again, I don't care whose fault it was whether Tories or Labour's but we have the facts now and his posts weren't something vaguely unpleasant he clearly supports terrorism and is a Jew hater.

We need to see this headlined and action taken.

EmeraldRoulette · 28/12/2025 15:01

@PandoraSocks agree. Who else like this has been given citizenship (under any government).

Maybe it's exposing something bigger that we really need to know about.