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To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?

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Twiglets1 · 27/12/2025 20:14

Reported in The Telegraph today that Sir Keir Starmer has welcomed an alleged Islamist extremist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, into the UK.

The Prime Minister said he was “delighted” that Alaa Abd el-Fattah had arrived from Egypt on Friday evening after a travel ban imposed by Cairo was lifted following lobbying by ministers.

Mr Abd el-Fattah, an activist with dual British-Egyptian citizenship, previously said that it was heroic to kill Zionists “including civilians”. He urged Londoners to burn Downing Street, told his supporters to kill police and said he hated white people.

Ministers are facing calls to revoke his British citizenship, which he was granted in 2021 while imprisoned in Egypt, where campaigners described him as a “prisoner of conscience”.

Sir Keir’s tweet yesterday said how “delighted” he was that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in this country. Does that seem a reasonable stance to take for someone who has claimed at the same time to be committed to "eradicating antisemitism in the UK"?

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Aislyn · 28/12/2025 20:31

What can we do? Write to MP? Anything else?

Aislyn · 28/12/2025 20:30

The BBC still hasn't reported on his tweets, have they?

The silence is deafening, especially when all the majority of news outlets have reported now.

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 20:03

notimagain · 28/12/2025 19:53

Yep, heck of lot of MPs, once keen supporters of the cause suddenly getting on their reversocycles but all a bit late...Westminster is going to need a bigger muck spreader because there's a lot to go round.

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Hear hear

notimagain · 28/12/2025 19:53

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 19:43

Interesting turn of events

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Yep, heck of lot of MPs, once keen supporters of the cause suddenly getting on their reversocycles but all a bit late...Westminster is going to need a bigger muck spreader because there's a lot to go round.

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 19:43

notimagain · 28/12/2025 19:39

The Guardian , Sunday evening:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/28/successive-uk-governments-face-questions-over-support-for-activist-alaa-abd-el-fattah

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Interesting turn of events

Heyhelga · 28/12/2025 19:42

Just wait until Starmer welcomes back Shamima Begum

KittyTinker · 28/12/2025 19:19

I am feeling a genuine fear and anxiety about our leadership today that I haven’t felt since the start of the COVID pandemic. Then it was a fear of the unknown and being led into it by Boris. Now it’s a panic that our government are either completely incompetent or much much worse.

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 19:04

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 18:55

And it's thanks to Twitter that people like Abd el-Fattah have a platform to spread hate.

But he'd still have that hate inside him, may have even spread it by other means. But by him tweeting it made it easy to find.

I think twitter is somewhere between a benign force for good and a cesspit. It certainly exposes people.

I suppose the useful idiots have helped spread extremists' words without even knowing they are doing it. I'm sure somebody will be along in a minute to object to the useful idiots term, as they did with describing a racist as filthy. This is part of the reason why such radicals are allowed to hide under the radar.

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 18:55

And it's thanks to Twitter that people like Abd el-Fattah have a platform to spread hate.

But he'd still have that hate inside him, may have even spread it by other means. But by him tweeting it made it easy to find.

I think twitter is somewhere between a benign force for good and a cesspit. It certainly exposes people.

Fluffyholeysocks · 28/12/2025 18:53

Another shining example of cleaning up politics and restoring public trust.

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 18:49

Alexandra2001 · 28/12/2025 18:28

Err Sunak raised the case with the Egyptian President, then made a statement to the 'commons about his progress in getting this man released.... which Starmer then responded too.....

Did you read your link? or are you another portraying this as a Starmer only issue?

Get the facts straight, they ALL supported his release and actively campaigned for it....

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I never said otherwise. That was the text of the tweet I linked! The context of which was the irony of Starmer being upset that someone was jailed for tweets.

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 18:39

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 18:20

No. I was pointing out to that poster that Twitter is not some sort of benign force for good. I have made my feelings clear about Abd el-Fattah in my previous posts on this thread. But don't let that stop you jumping to conclusions.

Eta: Twitter didn't expose him. He was exposed a decade ago, but politicians and celebs chose to ignore it all.

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El-Fattah wrote those hateful, genocidal, racist tweets for all to see and now the spotlight is on him in a way it wouldn't be if we only got the sanitized version of who he is from The Guardian/BBC etc. If Twitter didn't exist, would we even know he had these views?

Alexandra2001 · 28/12/2025 18:28

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 18:12

Oh!

9 November 2022 - Starmer complains to Rishi Sunak that Fattah is "a British citizen jailed for the crime of posting on social media".

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2022-1…

https://x.com/i/status/2005263297491390821

Tweeting about wanting to kill Americans in 2008.

Err Sunak raised the case with the Egyptian President, then made a statement to the 'commons about his progress in getting this man released.... which Starmer then responded too.....

Did you read your link? or are you another portraying this as a Starmer only issue?

Get the facts straight, they ALL supported his release and actively campaigned for it....

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 18:20

Three4 · 28/12/2025 18:15

erm How is this Twitter’s fault? Twitter exposed him, yet Youre monte angry at a social media platform than the hateful man himself or the politicians enabling him?

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No. I was pointing out to that poster that Twitter is not some sort of benign force for good. I have made my feelings clear about Abd el-Fattah in my previous posts on this thread. But don't let that stop you jumping to conclusions.

Eta: Twitter didn't expose him. He was exposed a decade ago, but politicians and celebs chose to ignore it all.

Kingscallops · 28/12/2025 18:17

The whole lot of them are rotten to the core, no matter which party allegiance. It's all game playing like a political football. Their behaviour in the Commons is embarrassing for starters.

Three4 · 28/12/2025 18:15

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 18:13

And it's thanks to Twitter that people like Abd el-Fattah have a platform to spread hate. Twitter is a cess pit and many "citizen journalists" are very, very dubious.

A minute or two of googling would have brought up articles about those tweets. The Wall Street Journal reported on them a decade ago. Politicians of all stripes have failed here.

Who is the "they" that want to ban Twitter, btw?

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erm How is this Twitter’s fault? Twitter exposed him, yet Youre monte angry at a social media platform than the hateful man himself or the politicians enabling him?

PandoraSocks · 28/12/2025 18:13

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 18:01

Thanks to Twitter/X we get this kind of citizen journalism that the mainstream media seems to strangely be lacking. No wonder they want to ban it. If it wasn't for Twitter there would be so much stuff that ordinary people didn't get to know about.

And it's thanks to Twitter that people like Abd el-Fattah have a platform to spread hate. Twitter is a cess pit and many "citizen journalists" are very, very dubious.

A minute or two of googling would have brought up articles about those tweets. The Wall Street Journal reported on them a decade ago. Politicians of all stripes have failed here.

Who is the "they" that want to ban Twitter, btw?

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 18:12

Oh!

9 November 2022 - Starmer complains to Rishi Sunak that Fattah is "a British citizen jailed for the crime of posting on social media".

hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2022-1…

https://x.com/i/status/2005263297491390821

Tweeting about wanting to kill Americans in 2008.

To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?
To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?
HappyFace2025 · 28/12/2025 18:07

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 17:57

That sadly doesn't surprise me at all.

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Me neither 😥

snoopyscosmicanomaly · 28/12/2025 18:01

Thanks to Twitter/X we get this kind of citizen journalism that the mainstream media seems to strangely be lacking. No wonder they want to ban it. If it wasn't for Twitter there would be so much stuff that ordinary people didn't get to know about.

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 17:57

HappyFace2025 · 28/12/2025 11:07

What is also very odd is that MSM (other than the two papers quoted already) such as the BBC and Guardian, are basically parroting the Government's stance i.e. that it's great that this man has been released from jail in Egypt, where he was a known agitator, last September. After extensive lobbying by the current Government, aided and abetted by the likes of luvvies such as Olivia Colman and most disappointingly Judi Dench, he was allowed to leave Egypt to come to the UK where he has a teenage son living in Brighton. His mother was another hunger striker while he was still in jail.

Neither the Beeb nor the Guardian has made any mention of the online hatred and divisive comments spouted by Alaa Abdel Fattah.

That sadly doesn't surprise me at all.

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 17:48

Duplicate post!

JaquelineHide · 28/12/2025 17:48

Alexandra2001 · 28/12/2025 08:52

..... because like Sunak, he didn't know?

I'm pretty sure, that had Starmer known about these tweets, he wouldn't have endorsed this guy.

Same applies to Sunak...

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Well they SHOULD have known. Ordinary twitter users found them easily enough, then there's what happened in 2015, already discussed, which was in the press. Shocking incompetence from successive governments.

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Twiglets1 · 28/12/2025 17:30

A timeline:

In July 2010 he wrote: “I consider killing any colonialists and specially Zionists heroic, we need to kill more of them.”
In September 2010: “…there was no genocide against jews by the nazis after all many jews are left:”
In November 2010: “dear zionists please don’t ever talk to me, I’m a violent person who advocated the killing of all Zionists including civilians, so fuck of.”
In December 2010: “I’m proud of being racist against whites”.
In April 2011: “I hate white people.”
In August 2011: “now my real criticism of these post police murder riots is the wrong focus, go burn the city or downing street or hunt police u fools.”
In May 2012: “If we can’t kill the officers anyway ... fine. We’ll find a terrorist cell to kill their children and torture their mothers. Peaceful is stupid.”

And he was granted British citizenship in 2022 by Priti Patel, while he was in prison in Egypt. By this time, his views were well documented.

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