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To think people who own multiple homes have helped drive house prices out of reach?

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OneRoofIsEnough · 19/12/2025 13:54

I’m not saying they’re the only reason but I do think anyone who owns more than one residential property has played some part in pushing prices up over the last few decades.
When housing is treated as an investment vehicle rather than shelter, demand increases, supply tightens and first-time buyers lose out. Over time, that has made home ownership unaffordable for huge numbers of people.

AIBU to think this isn’t just “the market”, it’s a collective outcome created by individual choices?

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KeepPumping · 21/07/2026 14:54

BillieWiper · 20/07/2026 09:16

Ok then that's good isn't it? I don't see how it wouldn't impact the rental market though.

Because many second homes are around the coast, they are in rural areas, most immigrants/young people looking for work want a flat in the city, and certainly in London anyway there is an oversupply of basic shoe-box flats.

A very small number of people can actually fund (without mortgage debt) second or multiple homes and afford to pay the taxes to keep them empty, most people were just leveraging up on existing property/mortgage debt to attain a "lifestyle", unless they have paid a lot of the mortgage debt back their positions will unwind quite quickly if rates go up.

The basic causes of housing unaffordability were mass immigration and too much cheap mortgage debt for too long, blaming "second homes" is just a media distraction on behalf of the banks who have tried to pretend for years that high house prices are somehow "normal" (much harder to put that lie over now though)

KeepPumping · 21/07/2026 14:46

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/07/2026 10:33

Labour had THIRTEEN YEARS in which to repeal or amend that law, but they didn’t. Why was that, I wonder? Could it possibly be because they thought it’d lose them votes?

They wanted to blow the property bubble as hard as they could.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/07/2026 10:33

Washingupdone · 20/12/2025 22:30

The problem goes back to the Thatcher government which sold council houses at cheaper prices than they could be built.

Labour had THIRTEEN YEARS in which to repeal or amend that law, but they didn’t. Why was that, I wonder? Could it possibly be because they thought it’d lose them votes?

BillieWiper · 20/07/2026 09:16

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 23:18

That is a tiny minority of people and nothing to do with affordable rentals, most people will be facing double council tax on empty property now, and probably a new tax or two under AB as PM, they will be forced to sell or get them occupied.

Ok then that's good isn't it? I don't see how it wouldn't impact the rental market though.

OonaStubbs · 20/07/2026 01:57

Nobody should be allowed to own more than one house and that house should only be allowed to be as big as required, one bedroom per occupant.

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 23:18

BillieWiper · 19/07/2026 21:24

I don't agree with people who have so many properties they can afford to leave one or more of them empty the majority of the time. While others struggle desperately to find affordable rentals. I think social housing should be massively increased.

That is a tiny minority of people and nothing to do with affordable rentals, most people will be facing double council tax on empty property now, and probably a new tax or two under AB as PM, they will be forced to sell or get them occupied.

BillieWiper · 19/07/2026 21:24

I don't agree with people who have so many properties they can afford to leave one or more of them empty the majority of the time. While others struggle desperately to find affordable rentals. I think social housing should be massively increased.

DustyMaiden · 19/07/2026 21:22

I think a lot of the problems with housing and also amount of benefits being paid is due to relationships breaking down. I don’t think that’s a bad thing but it’s a price we pay.

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 20:58

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/07/2026 19:17

It was a Labour government - Blair and Brown - who thought it’d be a good idea to allow mortgage tax relief for buy to let, while abolishing it for owner occupiers. So that kicked off the buy to let boom with a vengeance.

Presumably they reasoned that a huge increase in private rentals would remove the need for them to provide more social housing - to replace that which had been lost to right-to-buy.

However the surge in house prices can’t have been just down to this - many other countries inc. Australia have experienced much the same.

It was a globally co-ordinated cheap debt experiment, designed to cover lack of wage rises and boost bank lending (and banker"s bonus pots) the public fell for it hook line and sinker - Why just have one mortgage when you can have three or four and rent out to students and immigrants! You are going to be a Big Player Mr and Mrs Blackpool bedsit "owner"!

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 20:53

ExtraOnions · 19/07/2026 18:23

Homes under the Hammer… people from London, buying cheap properties in areas of deprivation, that they can rent out, to pay for their large London mortgage.

The rent is more than local people would pay for a mortgage.

Driving up prices in the deprived areas

i feel like putting my foot through the screen when I hear “property portfolio”

This needs to stop.

It is stopping, AB as new PM, ME escalation, Japan "carry trade" etc. are all piling pressure on future mortgage costs, immigration drops will put pressure on BTL and the eventual recession will put a damper on all that lovely AirBnB that ruins residents peaceful enjoyment of their home.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/07/2026 19:17

It was a Labour government - Blair and Brown - who thought it’d be a good idea to allow mortgage tax relief for buy to let, while abolishing it for owner occupiers. So that kicked off the buy to let boom with a vengeance.

Presumably they reasoned that a huge increase in private rentals would remove the need for them to provide more social housing - to replace that which had been lost to right-to-buy.

However the surge in house prices can’t have been just down to this - many other countries inc. Australia have experienced much the same.

MissyB1 · 19/07/2026 19:07

ExtraOnions · 19/07/2026 18:23

Homes under the Hammer… people from London, buying cheap properties in areas of deprivation, that they can rent out, to pay for their large London mortgage.

The rent is more than local people would pay for a mortgage.

Driving up prices in the deprived areas

i feel like putting my foot through the screen when I hear “property portfolio”

This needs to stop.

God yes this!

CeciliaMars · 19/07/2026 18:26

Of course they have! That’s never been in doubt!

ExtraOnions · 19/07/2026 18:23

Homes under the Hammer… people from London, buying cheap properties in areas of deprivation, that they can rent out, to pay for their large London mortgage.

The rent is more than local people would pay for a mortgage.

Driving up prices in the deprived areas

i feel like putting my foot through the screen when I hear “property portfolio”

This needs to stop.

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 18:11

TheSmallAssassin · 19/07/2026 18:09

Why is it ridiculous @GotALionInMyPocket?Houses will be priced as high as the market can bear, many first time buyers can only afford the current prices because they are being subsidised by their parents. If there were fewer people able to buy at these prices, the market would drop. Seems logical to me?

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People were mainly getting help with deposits I think, higher monthly interest on mortgage debt won"t be able to be subsidised by most parents.

TheSmallAssassin · 19/07/2026 18:09

Why is it ridiculous @GotALionInMyPocket?Houses will be priced as high as the market can bear, many first time buyers can only afford the current prices because they are being subsidised by their parents. If there were fewer people able to buy at these prices, the market would drop. Seems logical to me?

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 18:08

Darragon · 19/07/2026 17:35

Why did you resurrect a zombie? There is a message when you do it. Was that not a clue?

More relevant than ever as AB gears up to tax property until the pips squeak.

GotALionInMyPocket · 19/07/2026 18:02

TheSmallAssassin · 19/12/2025 15:01

I think it's also adult children living with their parents longer and paying them no or very low rents, it's enabled higher prices than would otherwise have been sustainable if kids left home sooner.

Don’t be ridiculous

Darragon · 19/07/2026 17:35

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 15:01

The good news is that as holiday homes/BTL/second home owners try to sell up due to legislation, lack of tenants, price of mortgage debt etc, they will cause prices to come down, that is a net good for everyone in society.

Why did you resurrect a zombie? There is a message when you do it. Was that not a clue?

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 17:26

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 19/07/2026 16:00

The biggest thing is foreign buyers buying up swathes of properties. Needs to be stopped.

Stopped a long time ago, property is now a tax target, not a store of wealth.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 19/07/2026 16:00

The biggest thing is foreign buyers buying up swathes of properties. Needs to be stopped.

KeepPumping · 19/07/2026 15:01

The good news is that as holiday homes/BTL/second home owners try to sell up due to legislation, lack of tenants, price of mortgage debt etc, they will cause prices to come down, that is a net good for everyone in society.

caringcarer · 30/12/2025 21:13

How many threads do you intend to start on this topic?

Joeninety · 30/12/2025 21:11

OonaStubbs · 21/12/2025 14:19

All housing should be nationalised and allocated based on need.

Lol !

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 30/12/2025 15:45

IMO it’d be a start if we stopped foreigners who don’t actually live in the U.K., from buying properties. In London and I dare say elsewhere, there are many thousands of flats bought by Chinese or others from the Far East, , who don’t even rent them out, let alone live in them. The properties are simply a safe, convenient place to park their money.

We should take a leaf out of Denmark’s book. No foreigners allowed to buy unless they’ve actually lived there, full time, for 5 years. Apparently this was because of the proximity to Germany and Denmark’s extensive coastline - it was reasoned that without restrictions, Germans would buy up a great deal of Danish property and thus push prices up.

But they couldn’t say ‘no Germans’ (against EU law) so they said ‘no foreigners’ instead.

Dh was told this by a Dane he met at one of his professional society conferences.