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To think that it's a bit rude that the dad turned up to playdate instead of mum

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Zscalent · 01/12/2025 16:56

I am a single mum and have a 5 year old DD, she has made friends with another little girl in her class. My daughter was begging me since the start of September to organise a playdate so I got talking to the mum at the school gates last week and invited her and her daughter over to ours for a playdate on Saturday.
Saturday afternoon the child turned up at my door with her dad who explained that his wife was unwell. I felt wildly uncomfortable sitting there with a strange man in my house (I had literally never met him before). He was a nice man, but due to a previous trauma I generally try to not be alone with men especially behind closed doors and I found the 2 hours to be unbearably awkward and triggering.
Of course this family wouldn't know that about me and there was certainly no ill intent from them. The kids had a great time so I guess that's all that mattered but I just feel like if the mum couldn't make it to the playdate the right thing to do would be to give me a heads up that her husband was attending instead (in which case I could have suggested rescheduling or moving the location to a soft play or somewhere more private).
Aibu?

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Pigtailsandall · 03/12/2025 17:28

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 12:30

Luckily my kids are now adults- there never seemed to be a need for parents to hover over their kids or send random blokes along to play dates when they were young...

There's no way would I ever have had a random bloke that I'd never met before in my house. He could literally do whatever he wanted behind closed doors.

Are you all insane?

I think it's rather insane to think I'd drop off my 5-yo at someone's house for a few hours after having just chatted to them at school gates a couple of times. No way I'd leave them alone at a stranger's house.

Zscalent · 03/12/2025 17:27

Ffs I hold down a job, I go out in the world to events and shopping centres and i largely manage it without issue. I was temporarily triggered by a man i had never met unexpectedly being inside my home while I was alone with my child. This was the first time this had happened since the attack so i reacted with panic and let my trauma inform my thoughts with flashbacks. But I got through it I'm proud of myself for that.

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Zscalent · 03/12/2025 17:17

FlashyAndShiny · 03/12/2025 17:07

I would be curious to hear your therapist view on this situation.
They should be able to provide you with some insights on how to navigate common situations like this one. Chances are you going to be in proximity on men in many different scenarios, so knowing how to react is crucial.

You are curious to hear what a therapist says to a someone who has experienced complex trauma when they get a flashback?
That's a weird thing to be curious about someone else's therapy sessions but if it eases your curiosity my therapist will always respond with empathy and unconditional positive regard. She reminded me of all the tools I have to help ground me when I am triggered. She pointed out that i managed to get through the 2 hours without a full on panic attack and to be proud of my resilience.

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FlashyAndShiny · 03/12/2025 17:07

Zscalent · 03/12/2025 17:03

What are you on about? I literally said in my OP that i didnt expect them to know.

"Of course this family wouldn't know that about me and there was certainly no ill intent from them. The kids had a great time so I guess that's all that mattered but I just feel like if the mum couldn't make it to the playdate the right thing to do would be to give me a heads up that her husband was attending instead (in which case I could have suggested rescheduling or moving the location to a soft play or somewhere more private)."

I just thought it would have been polite to give a heads up about the change of plan.
I'm unreasonable fair enough.

I would be curious to hear your therapist view on this situation.
They should be able to provide you with some insights on how to navigate common situations like this one. Chances are you going to be in proximity on men in many different scenarios, so knowing how to react is crucial.

Zscalent · 03/12/2025 17:04

Again I meant public obviously not private

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Zscalent · 03/12/2025 17:03

FlashyAndShiny · 03/12/2025 16:57

Sorry for your troubles, but how on earth do you expect this couple to know all that ? And you have the gall to call them rude when instead of cancelling the playdate they made adjustments to still go ahead so they children could play together.
You are being utterly unreasonable.

What are you on about? I literally said in my OP that i didnt expect them to know.

"Of course this family wouldn't know that about me and there was certainly no ill intent from them. The kids had a great time so I guess that's all that mattered but I just feel like if the mum couldn't make it to the playdate the right thing to do would be to give me a heads up that her husband was attending instead (in which case I could have suggested rescheduling or moving the location to a soft play or somewhere more private)."

I just thought it would have been polite to give a heads up about the change of plan.
I'm unreasonable fair enough.

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FlashyAndShiny · 03/12/2025 16:57

Zscalent · 03/12/2025 16:34

Look I was the victim of an extremely violent attack at the hands of a man relatively recently (within the last 2 years) this attack nearly killed me so forgive me if I'm triggered by unexpecadly having a strange male in my home. I had a therapy session afterwards and I'm handling it.

How do I work or interact with people on a daily basis?

Well I have worked extremely hard with my GP and therapist to get the point that i can hold down a job and interact with people, but every so often I will be triggered by flashbacks and panic. That is not my fault. There is no amount of drugs or counselling that can "fix" a trauma completely so I am still a work in progress but im doing my best give me a break.

Sorry for your troubles, but how on earth do you expect this couple to know all that ? And you have the gall to call them rude when instead of cancelling the playdate they made adjustments to still go ahead so they children could play together.
You are being utterly unreasonable.

FlashyAndShiny · 03/12/2025 16:55

Oh totally OP, next time he should probably send a formal memo, a carrier pigeon, and maybe a PowerPoint presentation titled “Why Dad Will Be Doing Drop Off”. Because obviously no father should ever dare show up to a playdate without at least three weeks’ notice and your written approval. Absolutely scandalous behaviour.

Zscalent · 03/12/2025 16:34

metalbottle · 03/12/2025 15:01

I was trying to act normal but was preparing for him to attack at any moment. I wouldn't turn my back on him for a second and at one point even walked backwards towards the coffee machine I was trying to look nonchalant but I'm sure i actually looked like a total lunatic

Please see your GP for some help - you can't go through life like this. How do you work or interact with people on a day to day basis?

Look I was the victim of an extremely violent attack at the hands of a man relatively recently (within the last 2 years) this attack nearly killed me so forgive me if I'm triggered by unexpecadly having a strange male in my home. I had a therapy session afterwards and I'm handling it.

How do I work or interact with people on a daily basis?

Well I have worked extremely hard with my GP and therapist to get the point that i can hold down a job and interact with people, but every so often I will be triggered by flashbacks and panic. That is not my fault. There is no amount of drugs or counselling that can "fix" a trauma completely so I am still a work in progress but im doing my best give me a break.

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metalbottle · 03/12/2025 15:01

Zscalent · 02/12/2025 09:33

It was excruciating but mostly because of me not him. He was trying to make polite conversation and I was trying to act normal but was preparing for him to attack at any moment. I wouldn't turn my back on him for a second and at one point even walked backwards towards the coffee machine I was trying to look nonchalant but I'm sure i actually looked like a total lunatic. It's funny now but at the time it was terrifying.

I was trying to act normal but was preparing for him to attack at any moment. I wouldn't turn my back on him for a second and at one point even walked backwards towards the coffee machine I was trying to look nonchalant but I'm sure i actually looked like a total lunatic

Please see your GP for some help - you can't go through life like this. How do you work or interact with people on a day to day basis?

FlipFlopVibe · 03/12/2025 13:50

Gossipisgood · 03/12/2025 11:16

Why didn't you just say ' thanks for dropping her off what time will you be back to collect her?' why invite him in to sit for 2 hours? Next time when you arrange a playdate at yours make it clear in the arrangements you don't expect the parents to stay & agree a pick up time so you have child ready with shoes & coat on at the door so parents don't have to come in.

OP states in her updates she offered for him to leave the child and he said the child was nervous so he wanted to stay with her. OP invited the mother for coffee and the children to play, it was meant to be a social occasion for all four of them.

FlipFlopVibe · 03/12/2025 13:44

I don’t think you’re unreasonable at all, it’s your home and safe space, you prepared for one situation and got another.
Mum should definitely have done the reasonable thing to say “I can’t make it today as too unwell and don’t want to share my germs but DD can still make it, expect Dad to come but of course if it’s not suitable then we can rearrange” It’s just good manners

Lamentingalways · 03/12/2025 12:32

EvelynBeatrice · 03/12/2025 11:57

I like many men a lot. However, over the years in my very comfortable middle class life I have been sexually assaulted, hit hard enough to bruise (by random man in street for no reason), sexually harassed on many occasions ( once by man dressed as woman in public lavatory) and been patronised on numerous occasions. I have also observed my schoolgirl daughters been letched over and shouted at from passing cars. These are common occurrences for most women.

The perpetrators of the above abuse were all men. The statistics tell us that the overwhelming majority of sexual and violent crime is committed by males.

It is therefore unfathomable to me that I would not be wary of being alone with men I don’t know or not advise my daughters to be cautious too

I think some women on here may not see the world in the same way as some of us do (or they don’t believe the stats) Sarah Everard was raped and murdered by a married, father of 2 police officer. There are sooo many examples but we all seem to forget this as long as it’s not front page news. It’s perfectly reasonable to not want a man you don’t know in your home, OP should have been given the opportunity to reschedule.

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 12:30

Sillysoggyspaniel · 03/12/2025 12:24

Because you're sat in the same room as him while the kids play? What's he going to do, teleport??

But as I said originally, if that was the reason you cancelled the playdate I wouldn't rearrange it. So you do you.

Edited

Luckily my kids are now adults- there never seemed to be a need for parents to hover over their kids or send random blokes along to play dates when they were young...

There's no way would I ever have had a random bloke that I'd never met before in my house. He could literally do whatever he wanted behind closed doors.

Are you all insane?

Lamentingalways · 03/12/2025 12:27

I think it was rude if her not to text you and let you know, especially as you invited her for a coffee as well rather than just phrasing it as a play date. I would have hated it as well.

Sillysoggyspaniel · 03/12/2025 12:24

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 12:23

You know that how?
Because no married men are out and out weirdos or predators right?

Edited

Because you're sat in the same room as him while the kids play? What's he going to do, teleport??

But as I said originally, if that was the reason you cancelled the playdate I wouldn't rearrange it. So you do you.

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 12:23

Sillysoggyspaniel · 03/12/2025 11:56

He's coming so that his child and your child can play, not to rummage through your underwear drawer 🙄 he's not a cold caller.

You know that how?
Because no married men are out and out weirdos or predators right?

EvelynBeatrice · 03/12/2025 11:57

Soduku1234 · 01/12/2025 20:50

I honestly dispair at the world that someone would even think this way. It's the child's father - an equal parent. Men get such assumptions made about them . Honestly, what the hell do you expect to happen that wouldn't happen with the mother there.

I like many men a lot. However, over the years in my very comfortable middle class life I have been sexually assaulted, hit hard enough to bruise (by random man in street for no reason), sexually harassed on many occasions ( once by man dressed as woman in public lavatory) and been patronised on numerous occasions. I have also observed my schoolgirl daughters been letched over and shouted at from passing cars. These are common occurrences for most women.

The perpetrators of the above abuse were all men. The statistics tell us that the overwhelming majority of sexual and violent crime is committed by males.

It is therefore unfathomable to me that I would not be wary of being alone with men I don’t know or not advise my daughters to be cautious too

Sillysoggyspaniel · 03/12/2025 11:56

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 11:54

Bollox to that.
NO random bloke would have got through my door.

He's coming so that his child and your child can play, not to rummage through your underwear drawer 🙄 he's not a cold caller.

Paganpentacle · 03/12/2025 11:54

Sillysoggyspaniel · 01/12/2025 17:00

I would've dropped you a message to let you know I was sick, but if you'd cancelled the playdate because you weren't happy for my DH to bring my child I wouldn't have bothered to rearrange. At this age it's for the kids, not you.

Bollox to that.
NO random bloke would have got through my door.

LarryUnderwood · 03/12/2025 11:38

Gossipisgood · 03/12/2025 11:16

Why didn't you just say ' thanks for dropping her off what time will you be back to collect her?' why invite him in to sit for 2 hours? Next time when you arrange a playdate at yours make it clear in the arrangements you don't expect the parents to stay & agree a pick up time so you have child ready with shoes & coat on at the door so parents don't have to come in.

She did and the dad said he wanted to stay as the child was nervous about not having a parent there. And the OP invited the mum partly as she felt they got on well so she was expecting to get to know the mum a bit better. It seemed like an invitation to the mum and the daughter. From what the OP has said in updates anyway.

Gossipisgood · 03/12/2025 11:16

Why didn't you just say ' thanks for dropping her off what time will you be back to collect her?' why invite him in to sit for 2 hours? Next time when you arrange a playdate at yours make it clear in the arrangements you don't expect the parents to stay & agree a pick up time so you have child ready with shoes & coat on at the door so parents don't have to come in.

Franjipanl8r · 03/12/2025 05:29

Play dates with 5 year olds is generally really awkward. Some children aren’t comfortable or old enough to be left in new environments and sometimes you don’t know the other parent well enough to trust them with a drop off play date.

I would stick to park or soft play play dates until they’re a bit older if this interaction was too awkward for you. I would have also found it difficult to make small talk for that long - whether it was the mum or dad.

browser2025 · 03/12/2025 05:28

browser2025 · 02/12/2025 22:49

I’ve been there too, when the paranoia becomes so irrational that there’s no reasoning with them. Every word you say just makes things worse.

There’s no way he would have let, having another man in the house, go, for months, maybe even years after that. I would’ve been instantly guilty, the children definitely wouldn’t have been allowed to spend time with or associate with that other family again.

You really do not know what someone’s home life is like behind closed doors. So sending a stranger (make or female) with no prior warning to spend time in someone else’s house is a no from me.

Even if it’s a woman, a paranoid partner, in my experience, would have an issue with having a new unvetted ‘friend’ round.

Even though my DH is the complete opposite of my past, trusting and never paranoid or accusatory, the trauma from my past relationship lingers. Years later, it still shapes my behaviour: I avoid eye contact with other men on the street, I always sit facing the wall in restaurants to avoid being accused looking at other diners, etc.

This “previous programming” can persist even in healthy couples with no outward issues, hidden. Even if you know the couple, a quick text before hand is the right thing to do so they can decide whether to make adjustments or invite the stranger in. Or they can simply mention it to their partner for their own leave of mind (even if it’s not needed or expected).

A woman in this situation might feel deep discomfort around other men, not from fear of assault or unwanted advances, but from anxiety over explaining innocent interactions to her partner when he gets home, even if no explanation is needed.

ohdearmemummy · 03/12/2025 05:02

You are being totally unreasonable here.

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