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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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LizzieSiddal · 01/12/2025 09:10

I voted Labour. I’m not 100% happy but I’d vote for them again tomorrow rather than the Tory’s or Reform.

Anyone who thinks Reform would do a better job should look at all the councils they are running at the moment. A reform govt would make Liz Truss look competent.

I like what Labour have done with -

Workers rights
Renters reforms
Abolishing 2 child benefit cap
Trade deals to try to mitigate the disaster of Brexit.

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:10

WalkDontWalk · 01/12/2025 09:09

Yes, thanks - and I'm paying more tax.

Are you though? Have you checked?

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 09:09

The number of ex prisoners serving 12 + month sentences gaining employment on release has increased since the appointment of James Timpson. Some good work is being done there.

WalkDontWalk · 01/12/2025 09:09

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

Yes, thanks - and I'm paying more tax.

SwordToFlamethrower · 01/12/2025 09:08

Oh yes and I'm very happy with them sorting out the NHS, which is going to take time, but they acted straight off the bat when they got in. Also my MP is amazing, hardworking and genuinely caring. Our previous tory mp was a corrupt self serving arsehole.

I don't understand why people think Labour should be able to sort out 14 years of corruption and decline within 1 year. The press is obviously against them as all I ever see is a negative spin on all the good stuff they're doing.

LVhandbagsatdawn · 01/12/2025 09:08

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:03

I don’t think they’re doing a terrible job. It’ll take a while to correct the shit show of the last 15 years. What we need more than anything is stability. And for the press to back off and let the changes take effect and to stop stirring up discontent and division.

Pretty much this. I don't think they're amazing, I don't think they're terrible.

I didn't vote for Labour at the GE.

I do think the country is in a poor state and any govt in power at the moment would be having a hard time of it, but the knives seem out for Labour in a particularly aggressive way.

There is definitely an improvement in NHS wait times for me.

I don't think the budget was the worst in history and I think anyone who says that has very short memories or has blanked out Truss / Kwarteng due to trauma.

LadyKenya · 01/12/2025 09:07

Violetparis · 01/12/2025 08:26

I am disillusioned with them all too, have always voted Labour but fed up with their incompetence and lies. Have no idea who to vote for any more, have no faith in any of the major parties.

I feel the same, I will look more into the Green Party I think.

Onlyontuesday · 01/12/2025 09:05

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:56

Migration fell overall (mainly due to restrictions on students being able to bring family over-which I believe was introduced by Tories). Asylum migration did not fall, it made up 11% of all migration and is double what it was in 2019.

the migration picture as a whole is not positive. There are less people getting skilled worker visas and a higher share of refugees.

the economic impact of migration isn’t how many of migrating, but who is migrating.

Of course asylum migration is double was was in 2019, the increase is massively influenced by Brexit. Britain is attractive because if asylum is denied here the asylum seeker can reapply in the EU, whereas if they are denied in the EU it is the end if the road.

This isn't going to resolve after a year, but they can't be accused of not attempting to grasp the nettle. This situation was induced by Nigel Farage snd the Conservatives, why anyone would trust them to resolve it is beyond me.

They have increased leave to remain waits for lower paid work. I was pleased they did this with care as companies use migration to pay care workers less than they deserve.

SwordToFlamethrower · 01/12/2025 09:05

Overall I am happy yeah. They aren't the Tories. They aren't perfect but they're taxing posh schools and taking land back from the Lords and Ladies who pretend to farm but don't. They are bringing back sure start, investing into parks, sorting out immigration. Stopped HS2. Now the 2 child cap is being lifted.

HelenaWaiting · 01/12/2025 09:05

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:43

Honestly, you think he’s doing ok? I’m honestly amazed that anyone thinks that.

So you posted the thread so that you could argue with anyone who thinks the current government are doing OK?

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:03

I don’t think they’re doing a terrible job. It’ll take a while to correct the shit show of the last 15 years. What we need more than anything is stability. And for the press to back off and let the changes take effect and to stop stirring up discontent and division.

randomchap · 01/12/2025 09:02

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:35

Ive always been anti reform, but honestly starting my to think they deserve a chance. I’m actually so depressed by it all.

Farage is the face of disaster capitalism. If they get in then anything that can be sold at knock down prices will be. His backers will make an absolute fortune by wrecking this country.

Nhs gone, replaced by an American model
Consumer protection gone
No worker protection
Environmental standards gone

He's an opportunistic shit who only cares about making money for him and his mates

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 09:01

Justmadesourkraut · 01/12/2025 08:59

This. Additionally, we no longer have the mega rich lining their pockets and their mates with corrupt deals. Have you really forgotten the covid PPE scandals, the Truss budget and Johnson's bumbling say-whatever-they-want-to-hear-they-wont-care-about-the-truth patronizing smarminess?
Starmer and co haven't waved a magic twinkly wand to put everything right. There isn't one. Imo, they are more ordinary people, trying to steady and incredibly wobbly ship.
Honestly, Farage won't lead a united country into prosperity. He's another mega rich, big-on-personality, small on ideas person, driven by negativity and the desire for power. He wants to lead, but the track record of his councils, his colleagues and his friends (Trump? Really?) speaks for itself.
I'm old enough to know that politics isn't about quick fixes. It's not like bringing a flashy new manager to lead the football team. It's about slowly building sensible policies to look after the most people you can, building the economy steadily, whilst trying to pay off your debts,vand maintaining your values, and some sanity at a time of huge global change. It's not sexy. It's not going to get suddenly better, but could get much, much worse.

We just have Rayner effectively stealing off her son and Rachel being being accused of purposely manipulating the markets.

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Newbutoldfather · 01/12/2025 09:01

I think that they have tried to do some good things and are starting to make some progress.

NHS waiting lists are genuinely down and they are starting to deal with securing our borders, though they have not gone far enough yet.

But the budgets were both a shambles. They did nothing to deal with benefits, glaring inefficiencies in the tax system and the very low rates of tax paid by the genuinely wealthy. So they were very much used to take from the middle to give to those receiving benefits.

If the Tories get their act together under Kemi, I will probably vote for them. But never again a corrupt shambles like Boris.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:59

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2025 08:57

i just wanted what we were told to expect.

What did you expect? Right at the beginning of this parliament Starmer said his government would be unpopular initially and sure enough it is. He also told us it would take two terms to correct some of the damage inflicted in the previous 14 years. Anyone who expects to see that improvement after 17 months is completely unrealistic and if they think Reform’s the answer they’re away with the fairies.

We were told that there would be tax rises. We were told transparency and no sleeze.

we have had all 3.

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Boomer55 · 01/12/2025 08:59

I voted for them, but won’t again. They have been incompetent and bad for the economy. 🙄

Justmadesourkraut · 01/12/2025 08:59

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

This. Additionally, we no longer have the mega rich lining their pockets and their mates with corrupt deals. Have you really forgotten the covid PPE scandals, the Truss budget and Johnson's bumbling say-whatever-they-want-to-hear-they-wont-care-about-the-truth patronizing smarminess?
Starmer and co haven't waved a magic twinkly wand to put everything right. There isn't one. Imo, they are more ordinary people, trying to steady and incredibly wobbly ship.
Honestly, Farage won't lead a united country into prosperity. He's another mega rich, big-on-personality, small on ideas person, driven by negativity and the desire for power. He wants to lead, but the track record of his councils, his colleagues and his friends (Trump? Really?) speaks for itself.
I'm old enough to know that politics isn't about quick fixes. It's not like bringing a flashy new manager to lead the football team. It's about slowly building sensible policies to look after the most people you can, building the economy steadily, whilst trying to pay off your debts,vand maintaining your values, and some sanity at a time of huge global change. It's not sexy. It's not going to get suddenly better, but could get much, much worse.

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:59

arethereanyleftatall · 01/12/2025 08:50

This can no longer be their argument. Last week they decided to give MORE money out in benefits to those not working or only part time. That helps with the shitshow zero.

It's a perfectly relevant argument.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:58

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 08:56

We were told to expect some unpopular decisions. Did you not hear that?

And we accepted that-at the last budget when we were told ‘The slate is now clean’.

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BIossomtoes · 01/12/2025 08:57

i just wanted what we were told to expect.

What did you expect? Right at the beginning of this parliament Starmer said his government would be unpopular initially and sure enough it is. He also told us it would take two terms to correct some of the damage inflicted in the previous 14 years. Anyone who expects to see that improvement after 17 months is completely unrealistic and if they think Reform’s the answer they’re away with the fairies.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:57

Onlyontuesday · 01/12/2025 08:56

Do you think Reform are trustworthy? Bothered by all of Farages appearances on Russia today, his defence of Putin and their Welsh leader being sent to prison for Russian bribes?

News outlets owned by billionaires (daily mail, telegraph, the sun) are always going to try and push against a Labour government. They will want reform or the tories in so they can get further tax breaks and continue raking it in while contributing so little.

No I don’t think he is, but thought Keir was and now his party are showing they are not trustworthy (Angela, Rachel). So actually, they are all lying bastards!!!!!

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ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 08:56

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:48

I expected more then we are getting.

i just wanted what we were told to expect.

how is this less of a shit show than the Tories?

We were told to expect some unpopular decisions. Did you not hear that?

Onlyontuesday · 01/12/2025 08:56

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:43

Honestly, you think he’s doing ok? I’m honestly amazed that anyone thinks that.

Do you think Reform are trustworthy? Bothered by all of Farages appearances on Russia today, his defence of Putin and their Welsh leader being sent to prison for Russian bribes?

News outlets owned by billionaires (daily mail, telegraph, the sun) are always going to try and push against a Labour government. They will want reform or the tories in so they can get further tax breaks and continue raking it in while contributing so little.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:56

Onlyontuesday · 01/12/2025 08:47

I'm happy with them but think they are awful at communicating what they do. Change takes time and the country's resources and infrastructure are in the pits.

They are doing good work in reducing NHS waiting times.

We have the fastest growing economy in the G7 and falling interest rates.

Immigration is down from 640k last year to 204k.

I think the farmer's inheritance tax and private school taxes were fair. The most budget hasn't benefitted us personally (both higher rate tax payers) but it has been received well by the markets.

I do wish they had managed the PIP and WFA reforms.

Migration fell overall (mainly due to restrictions on students being able to bring family over-which I believe was introduced by Tories). Asylum migration did not fall, it made up 11% of all migration and is double what it was in 2019.

the migration picture as a whole is not positive. There are less people getting skilled worker visas and a higher share of refugees.

the economic impact of migration isn’t how many of migrating, but who is migrating.

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