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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:35

user67392167904 · 01/12/2025 09:13

Imagine the shitshow the next Government will inherit from this crowd!
I don’t usually take much notice of politics, there is enough misery in the world, but the 8am news this morning on the way to school was almost entirely lying Politicians, Reeves and her imaginary black hole, a woman MP who has got into trouble for corruption in Pakistan, and another one sacked for something else, can’t remember what. And this is the party that was going to bring standards back to Westminster…

Eh? Labour are actually doing something about the shit show, it'll just take time.

browser2025 · 01/12/2025 09:34

I’m completely at a loss over who to vote for now. I’ve always leaned slightly centre-left, but this government is appalling. I honestly don’t understand how they’re still allowed to carry on. We’ve become so desensitised that every new scandal or disastrous decision barely registers anymore, it’s just another headline rather than something that triggers national outrage strong enough to bring real change. The next few years are going to be rough.

Even the OBR revealed that the supposed shortfall had been revised down several times during 2024 and 2025, showing a surplus instead. So that tired one-liner they were all programmed to spout about inheriting a £22 billion black hole was complete bollocks. There was actually a surplus.

I genuinely have no idea who to vote for. I know I don’t want Reform getting in, and although Kemi Badenoch is impressive, I still don’t trust another Conservative government.

Westfacing · 01/12/2025 09:34

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:35

Ive always been anti reform, but honestly starting my to think they deserve a chance. I’m actually so depressed by it all.

As a Labour voter no, I'm not happy, in fact very unhappy.

On what grounds does Reform 'deserve' a chance?

Sartre · 01/12/2025 09:33

DH voted for them purely because it was force of habit and he knew our area had a high chance of reform taking the vote (historically Tory area). I voted Green for the first time.

We were happy about the promise of free breakfast clubs but that doesn’t seem to have happened. They rolled it out in 700 schools last year I believe but ours wasn’t included. I saw they’re rolling out next year in 2k more schools but it’s those with over 40% on FSM, ours doesn’t fit the criteria… Breakfast club fees have actually recently increased.

The budget is a bit meh, doesn’t really massively affect us aside from the EV charge in a couple of years.

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:32

LadyKenya · 01/12/2025 09:07

I feel the same, I will look more into the Green Party I think.

The ones who think men can become women? Nein danke.

Wellnowlookhere · 01/12/2025 09:30

SwordToFlamethrower · 01/12/2025 09:05

Overall I am happy yeah. They aren't the Tories. They aren't perfect but they're taxing posh schools and taking land back from the Lords and Ladies who pretend to farm but don't. They are bringing back sure start, investing into parks, sorting out immigration. Stopped HS2. Now the 2 child cap is being lifted.

Genuine question…so who do you think actually IS farming?

elastamum · 01/12/2025 09:29

If we paid an average of 50% tax we could have decent public services too, but I can't see the UK public voting for it. We seem to expect European standard public services with a US tax base.

Pleasealexa · 01/12/2025 09:29

I'm so disappointed/angry with Labours duplicitous approach on women's rights.

BusMumsHoliday · 01/12/2025 09:27

I resigned my Labour membership over the recent immigration proposals. I can't be in a party that trades in sub-Farage rhetoric about asylum seekers with bags of gold and deliberately endangering children so they don't get deported.

Other than that - I think the overall picture is some good stuff (workers rights, 2 child cap lifted, curriculum reform proposals, some headway with NHS stuff, mansion tax), some not going far enough (I'd have liked to see more tax reform and council tax rebanding in the budget) some absolute own goals (Rayner), and an typical left wing inability to just get the job at hand done without tearing yourselves apart (which I say as someone on the left).

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:27

randomchap · 01/12/2025 09:14

He should be knighted for his work with prisoners even before he was in government. Helping former prisoners is of huge value to the country

So the right person was chosen for the job, rather than some venal mate shoehorned in for their and the PM own befit and favour. That is genuinely groundbreaking in terms of how government has been built over the last decade. Def worth celebrating.

DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:21

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

It doesn't matter, I agree things were left in a very bad state, but now, over a year on, they clearly have no plan to reverse any of the issues - and are making the mess worse.

People will tolerate high taxes if they see real benefits, in Scandinavia they pay almost 50% tax, but everything runs fine - in effect labour take more tax from us and give it away, as pay rises, or benefits. Not a penny is put towards repairing problems of encouraging growth.

The problem is people will react by voting Reform or Green etc. all of whom talk the talk, but have no hands on experience - Reform in particular terrify me and could make a real mess.

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/12/2025 09:20

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

Quite.

PixelatedLunchbox · 01/12/2025 09:20

PandoraSocks · 01/12/2025 09:14

Labour is also taking steps to protect women and children from abusers and rapists. That has been very much overlooked.

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Their refusal to investigate the rape gangs leaves me wholly unconvinced they give a toss.

PandoraSocks · 01/12/2025 09:19

LadyKenya · 01/12/2025 09:07

I feel the same, I will look more into the Green Party I think.

I am not keen on Polanski. I don't know why, because I agree with quite a lot of what he says.

I agree with @Timeforabitofpeace that in many ways Labour is Tory-lite which is a disappointment.

If there is a danger of Reform winning the next GE, I will vote tactically.

HopSpringsEternal · 01/12/2025 09:19

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:43

Honestly, you think he’s doing ok? I’m honestly amazed that anyone thinks that.

I mean the fact that you would even consider Reform has turned me off having a serious debate with you.
Have you not seen what their mp's have been up to and what their councillors are doing. The Welsh Reform Leader has just got ten years prison for admiting to taking bribes from Russia. One of the five MPs was found to have been jailed for domestic violence. Farage has basically admitted that he was racist openly as a schoolboy.
They are absolute scum.
I am not loving the lack of direction but they have managed to do some things well. Given the terrible state of our reputation abroad following Johnson, Starmer has managed to pull this right back.

KittyHigham · 01/12/2025 09:17

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:35

Ive always been anti reform, but honestly starting my to think they deserve a chance. I’m actually so depressed by it all.

You think a bunch of racists with no political history and no proven political acumen, should be "given a chance" to run the country?!
They would decimate human rights and create divisions instead of unity. Why on earth would you think they have the skills to negotiate on a global platform or provide economic success? What plans do they have for the most vulnerable in our society.
They don't come with a positive manifesto, they come with emotive bigotry.
Every government inherits challenges from the previous regime as well as world political circumstances. There was a global pandemic just 5 years ago. There was a disastrous decision to leave the eu, set up by Cameron who called a referendum with a single in or out vote! No Brexit plan, no one taking political responsibility for planning ahead so voters had any sort of financial, economic, or social consequences to actually consider. Utter madness.
I have yet to be entirely happy with any govt, whether I voted for them or not. And I've been eligible to vote since 1979 so plenty have come and gone. But hell would reeze over before I voted for reform.

PixelatedLunchbox · 01/12/2025 09:17

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

I for one expected better than the even bigger shitshow they’re churning out, considering all their bleating of “change”.

And the alleged “£22 billion black hole” they chirped about when they first got in, (if it even existed) would be an indication of their own lack of due diligence in identifying it. If you can miss a £22 BILLION shortfall then you aren’t fit to run a country — so that’s a reflection on them, not on the equally incompetent lot that got booted out.

JamesClyman · 01/12/2025 09:17

The Tories were dumped. That's all that mattered.

randomchap · 01/12/2025 09:14

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 09:09

The number of ex prisoners serving 12 + month sentences gaining employment on release has increased since the appointment of James Timpson. Some good work is being done there.

He should be knighted for his work with prisoners even before he was in government. Helping former prisoners is of huge value to the country

PandoraSocks · 01/12/2025 09:14

LizzieSiddal · 01/12/2025 09:10

I voted Labour. I’m not 100% happy but I’d vote for them again tomorrow rather than the Tory’s or Reform.

Anyone who thinks Reform would do a better job should look at all the councils they are running at the moment. A reform govt would make Liz Truss look competent.

I like what Labour have done with -

Workers rights
Renters reforms
Abolishing 2 child benefit cap
Trade deals to try to mitigate the disaster of Brexit.

Labour is also taking steps to protect women and children from abusers and rapists. That has been very much overlooked.

user67392167904 · 01/12/2025 09:13

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

Imagine the shitshow the next Government will inherit from this crowd!
I don’t usually take much notice of politics, there is enough misery in the world, but the 8am news this morning on the way to school was almost entirely lying Politicians, Reeves and her imaginary black hole, a woman MP who has got into trouble for corruption in Pakistan, and another one sacked for something else, can’t remember what. And this is the party that was going to bring standards back to Westminster…

LizzieSiddal · 01/12/2025 09:13

I don't understand why people think Labour should be able to sort out 14 years of corruption and decline within 1 year. The press is obviously against them as all I ever see is a negative spin on all the good stuff they're doing.

This times a million. The press is owned and run mainly by tax exiles who hate a Labour goverment. Day in day out they find and exaggerate negativity about this country. It’s depressing!

Timeforabitofpeace · 01/12/2025 09:13

They might as well be Tories, in my opinion. I feel sad that they’ve been such a mess, and that Starmer is so wooden and charmless . I’d never, ever vote Reform, though.

grannycake · 01/12/2025 09:12

Very happy thanks

AntiHop · 01/12/2025 09:11

I voted Labour and I would expect to again at the next election.

They inherited a huge mess. Change will take time.

Some positives so far:
Improving renters' rights
Improving workers' rights
Putting in place expectation of a high standard of English for immigration
Taxing extremely high value properties
Bringing many children out of poverty

What I would like to see next is finding a way to stop corporate tax avoidance, and finding a way to increase doctors' training posts to avoid the impending catastrophe of unemployed newly graduated doctors.