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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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67eleven · 01/12/2025 10:02

Every government makes promises to get in and then when they fail or they go back on their promises use the previous government as an excuse ad infinitum. Far easier to lay bleme than accept responsibility, I mean, its hardly a surprise what you're taking on.

Needingtoanewjob · 01/12/2025 10:02

tripleginandtonic · 01/12/2025 08:36

I think he's doing ok. Workers rights are being pushed up the agenda again.Why is it his fault if Reform get in ?
Reform are making a right mess of the councils they're running, Farage barely does/did his role as a MP/ MEP.

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You need to remember the staff of councils who do the work are all union people who prefer a labour boss.

StaringAtTheWater · 01/12/2025 10:01

Please don't vote Reform! This 'things can't get any worse, so we might as well try it' attitude is very foolhardy and dangerous! Things can always get much much worse!! So far Reform run councils are corrupt and incompetent, and there is a nasty racist undercurrent running through that party. I'm very worried that if they get into power, we'll see scenes similar to the US, with ICE agents illegally dragging innocent people off the streets!!

I didn't vote for them, and I don't disagree Labour so far have been thoroughly disappointing. It's all very frustrating. I believe Keir Starmer does actually know what is required is get the ecomony moving again (i.e. rejoining the single market, making house building easier, infrastructure projects like train lines between the major northern cities, reducing the benefits bills, making well off pensioners pay their own way) BUT for some reason he doesn't seem to have the bravery or political clout needed to get those changes put through. It all seems like such a wasted opportunity of a big majority!

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 10:00

'Fully costed' - do they mean taking more money out of earner's pockets? Rightio.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:00

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

1/3 of hospitality are facing closure, worse than Covid for them. Why do you feel immune from Labour’s policies? Are you benefiting rather than looking at losing your job or livelihood?

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:00

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:56

I'm sure I read somewhere that only 2% of workers used to pay the higher rate of income tax whereas now it is 20%. It used to be very high earners that paid it, now it is people living very ordinary lives.

Yes and a lot of them (including me) will have been doing so under the Tories. Or actually, I’m in Scotland so I’ve been paying higher rate tax for years when I would have been BR payer in England. This has not been an innovation of the labour government

NellieJean · 01/12/2025 10:00

Yes I voted Labour. No I don’t think things are going well. No I don’t think things would be any better under the Tories who would have had to make many of the same decisions. As for Reform if you think they are fit to run the country I can’t help you.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 09:58

Didimum · 01/12/2025 09:57

i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

It will be the fault of the people who voted for them.

Starmer said that would make unpopular decisions and that life would feel difficult for a long while. I'm not sure why that wasn't taken at face value. I voted for Labour and I'm not unhappy with how things are going.

Why did they talk about fully funded, fully costed at the GE?

caringcarer · 01/12/2025 09:58

tripleginandtonic · 01/12/2025 08:36

I think he's doing ok. Workers rights are being pushed up the agenda again.Why is it his fault if Reform get in ?
Reform are making a right mess of the councils they're running, Farage barely does/did his role as a MP/ MEP.

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Nonsense Reform is running Staffordshire council and making a good job of it. Pot holes are being filled in at last.

Didimum · 01/12/2025 09:57

i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

It will be the fault of the people who voted for them.

Starmer said that would make unpopular decisions and that life would feel difficult for a long while. I'm not sure why that wasn't taken at face value. I voted for Labour and I'm not unhappy with how things are going.

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:56

I'm sure I read somewhere that only 2% of workers used to pay the higher rate of income tax whereas now it is 20%. It used to be very high earners that paid it, now it is people living very ordinary lives.

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:55

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:53

Yes they've only been in for 18 months but they are already showing who they are by not only not cutting benefits but increasing it by £26 billion. While increasing income tax! I'm loving paying more money in tax while 8 million of working age do nothing.

I live in Scotland where I’ve been hammered for tax for years

I’ve never been better off after a budget irrespective of who’s been in power.

Patchedupsocks · 01/12/2025 09:54

I don't vote, not taking blame for any of the shit that was voted in. I don't like the tories much but would have NEVER voted in Sir labour either, so will never vote for any as none speak for me.

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:53

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

Yes they've only been in for 18 months but they are already showing who they are by not only not cutting benefits but increasing it by £26 billion. While increasing income tax! I'm loving paying more money in tax while 8 million of working age do nothing.

cooliebrown · 01/12/2025 09:52

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 09:01

We just have Rayner effectively stealing off her son and Rachel being being accused of purposely manipulating the markets.

to be honest purposely manipulating the markets is exactly what I want a Chancellor of the Exchequer to be doing

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

Kirbert2 · 01/12/2025 09:48

I voted Labour and would vote Labour again.

I don't agree with everything Labour have done but Tories and Reform will never be an option for me so Labour it is.

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:47

I can't imagine that anyone that isn't on benefits is happy with the government. They just keep taxing at ever turn and those that pay in at high rates of tax get the same shit service as those that pay in naff all. It is utter madness.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 09:46

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

They probably expected what Labour sold in “fully funded, fully costed”.

Almondflour · 01/12/2025 09:44

They will never get my vote again. I am very against increasing benefits. I was hoping labour would reduce the PIP spending but it looks like the backbenchers hold the power now.

DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:42

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:37

It does matter, and it will take a long time to recover from years of weak and inept tory chums leadership.

I don't disagree, it will take more than this parliament, but they are not doing anything that will help, when are they planning on starting? I voted for them and rather hoped they would get going ASAP

rafeal · 01/12/2025 09:42

I voted Labour and am generally a soft lefty and whilst my instinct is that they inherited a mess and are trying to clear it up, their actions suggest otherwise and I’m so disappointed that yet again the government is playing party politics with our economy.

Just like Brexit was Cameron’s mad attempt to calm the anti-Europe faction in the tories, Reeves is doing exactly the same:

Raising the minimum wage will not help the cost of living one jot as costs of employment go straight to the consumer and the poor are the people this affects the most. They will have no more money in their pocket. Rents at the lower end will increase as everyone suddenly has a bit more cash and the cost of living will continue to rise. She knows this but it placates the left.

The tax on £2 million raises a paltry amount budget-wise and creates a load more unnecessary work and admin (in itself a cost) but is a great soundbite for her backbenchers. It’s economic political tinkering when we need transformation.

Removing the tax breaks on salary sacrifice removes the incentive to save more for the future when a lot of people, after years of prioritising mortgages and childcare, are looking at inadequate pensions and now need to find more cash (from where?) to make up the difference.

Labour came into power saying they knew that they needed to get a grip on the welfare bill but this wasn’t popular with their backbenchers and so this has gone nowhere. Did they need to reduce the welfare bill or did they not? I don’t know but it was a key policy at one point.

I also hate the toxic rhetoric which is as bad any other government were using and using ‘working people’ to mean practically only those who are minimum wage and ‘broadest shoulders’ to justify squeezing people who’s shoulders are almost broken, is incredibly divisive and political in its purpose (ie to calm rebellious back benchers). The country needs uplifting - we do not to demonise those, also ‘working people’ who are indeed shouldering an ever increasing burden.

I am lucky, the mortgage is almost paid off, I don’t have a £2 million house or a child in private school and salary sacrifice changes mean I will spend less on other things. However I do have young adult children saddled with university debts worse than their American cousins and a very challenging job situation on graduation. It is the younger generations I am seriously concerned about.

Yet Labour feel it’s fine to use the country’s economy for politics.

Whistonia · 01/12/2025 09:38

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 09:01

We just have Rayner effectively stealing off her son and Rachel being being accused of purposely manipulating the markets.

How was she stealing off her son!
Yes she didn’t pay the correct stamp duty but saying she stole off her son is not correct.

Her son brought her share of the house as she was getting divorced. The other option was to sell the house that had been adapted specifically for him.

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:37

DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:21

It doesn't matter, I agree things were left in a very bad state, but now, over a year on, they clearly have no plan to reverse any of the issues - and are making the mess worse.

People will tolerate high taxes if they see real benefits, in Scandinavia they pay almost 50% tax, but everything runs fine - in effect labour take more tax from us and give it away, as pay rises, or benefits. Not a penny is put towards repairing problems of encouraging growth.

The problem is people will react by voting Reform or Green etc. all of whom talk the talk, but have no hands on experience - Reform in particular terrify me and could make a real mess.

It does matter, and it will take a long time to recover from years of weak and inept tory chums leadership.

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 09:37

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:27

So the right person was chosen for the job, rather than some venal mate shoehorned in for their and the PM own befit and favour. That is genuinely groundbreaking in terms of how government has been built over the last decade. Def worth celebrating.

Absolutely. Not the sort of information that gets much recognition or media coverage though.