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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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rafeal · 01/12/2025 10:49

SleeplessInWherever · 01/12/2025 10:18

I think it’s remarkable that most of us can acknowledge the last 10+ years has been a total shitshow, but some people expect it to be fixed within 5mins.

I can. But there first 18 months doesn’t seem to demonstrate that they know how to do it or at least the backbenchers won’t let them do it.

WalkDontWalk · 01/12/2025 10:47

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:35

Ive always been anti reform, but honestly starting my to think they deserve a chance. I’m actually so depressed by it all.

“The electric bill in our house has been sky high for years. And a lot of it doesn’t work. So we got in a new electrician, and they’ve done some stuff. The light in the bathroom’s stopped fizzing, and the food mixer doesn’t trip the fusebox. But the lights in the basement still don’t work. And the dimmer in the living room is still useless. Oh, and the bill’s still high. But my sister knows this chap Nigel. He’s not an electrician - no qualifications or anything - he’s actually a telemarketer. But, given the state of our electrics, we think he and his mates from the pub should be given a chance. And a lot of money.”

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 10:46

It was a budget for those on benefits. Not for those that pay for those on benefits. I definitely think the best years of the UK are behind us. Also, no big announcement on illegal immigration - just more tinkering about.

Annoyeddd · 01/12/2025 10:45

The government cannot undo 14 years of a shit show in five mins. All those corrupt MPs feathering their own nests.
And as for reform - is the electorate that stupid they think farage and his mates will look after them - that sending all foreigners back will make everything perfect, cutting all benefits to the sick, frail and vulnerable will make the working people rich. The people who think Dubai is paradise (then they expect the UK to bail them out when the money is spent and things go wrong).

hamstersarse · 01/12/2025 10:42

I still don't know what they stand for. What is their vision for Britain?

Pleasealexa · 01/12/2025 10:41

they are trying to find ways of appeasing the electorate rather than telling it how it is

I think they are also trying to appease their MPs. Benefit reform is needed but they fear any changes. They fear a backlash for upholding the law on women's rights due to labour MP activists.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:40

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:38

Thank you for your concern. He’s fine but you know what I’ve faced job losses before, me not him, we know shit happens. We bounce back. Where he works is always busy so fingers crossed.

That’s good. I think you mentioned Scotland and the revaluation which is causing major issues is England, not sure about Wales.

Didimum · 01/12/2025 10:39

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 09:58

Why did they talk about fully funded, fully costed at the GE?

Fiscal planning always involves projections, assumptions and uncertainties.
Their initial financing plan was plausible – but fragile, based on optimistic revenue, assumptions about economic growth and politically uncertain tax/borrowing levers.
With any government newly coming into power, with higher-than-expected spending pressure, economic headwinds, and political trade-offs (e.g. union/business balance), some compromises are inevitable.

You either think this way about politics or you don't. It's OK to disagree.

BrightSpark10 · 01/12/2025 10:38

CreativeGreen · 01/12/2025 10:34

That's a misunderstanding. All governments are going to tax, and they're going to spend. The phrase is a disavowal of 'tax and spend' as a governing ideological policy. Anyone who thought there would be neither taxes nor spending is an idiot.

They had two budgets so far and whacked tax A LOT on both… I’m not saying taxes don’t need to be raised or loopholes closed BUT they literally delivered a budget for people on benefits. So yeah, they did taxed and spend.

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:38

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:35

Is he feeling ok and not in the 1/3? I wouldn’t wish closure on anyone so I hope so.

Labour should respond to this though for those who are under threat of closure. And they have hammered small businesses which is why they’ve lost a lot of support.

Thank you for your concern. He’s fine but you know what I’ve faced job losses before, me not him, we know shit happens. We bounce back. Where he works is always busy so fingers crossed.

Didimum · 01/12/2025 10:38

Julen7 · 01/12/2025 10:06

The majority are unhappy though. Chris Mason even said to Starmer on the BBC after the budget “you and this govt are so unpopular” and Starmer hardly flinched, he knows it.

I didn't say the majority wasn't unhappy. That wasn't OP's question. I said I wasn't unhappy.

NancyBellaDonna · 01/12/2025 10:37

Righting child poverty must come first.

Righting the misery of living in rented accommodation should also be a priority.

Brexit has badly harmed the UK and we have lost out. It will take years to sort out the Tory/Truss mess. It's unreasonable to expect it done in 12 months.

Stop reading rightwing crap newspapers. They wind you up and are full of misinformation.

I didn't vote Labour because I had to vote tactically to get the sitting Tory MP out. But I'm not dissapointed so far.

CreativeGreen · 01/12/2025 10:37

What I am angry about, though, is the way the media seem to be talking us into a Reform government. The way they reported before the budget was shameful - reporting speculation as though it had already happened. Reminds me of a bit in Flight of the Conchords when Murray writes a shit review of the bad and says 'that's what people are saying about you' - and when they reply, 'but you wrote it!' he just says 'well, it's what they're reading about you'.

IcyPuddles · 01/12/2025 10:37

I voted Labour and I’m not happy with how things are going. However, I also don’t think it’s an unrelenting tale of woe with no positives, and I’m not gormless enough to think it’s all their fault.

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:35

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:32

My husband works in hospitality so that’s a bit of an assumption there on your part. I’m no more immune to any government policies than anyone else, but I’m not so stupid to think that either the Tories or Reform, both of whom are either directly or indirectly responsible for the shambles that was inherited by Labour, would be doing any better a job.

Oh and if you meant to have some kind of dig at me being on benefits, sorry to disappoint, but no I’m not. Just realistic and if you want someone to blame for how things are look no further than the eejits who voted for Brexit!

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:35

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:32

My husband works in hospitality so that’s a bit of an assumption there on your part. I’m no more immune to any government policies than anyone else, but I’m not so stupid to think that either the Tories or Reform, both of whom are either directly or indirectly responsible for the shambles that was inherited by Labour, would be doing any better a job.

Is he feeling ok and not in the 1/3? I wouldn’t wish closure on anyone so I hope so.

Labour should respond to this though for those who are under threat of closure. And they have hammered small businesses which is why they’ve lost a lot of support.

CreativeGreen · 01/12/2025 10:34

BrightSpark10 · 01/12/2025 10:33

Party who promised to not tax and spend, taxed and spend 🤷🏼‍♀️

That's a misunderstanding. All governments are going to tax, and they're going to spend. The phrase is a disavowal of 'tax and spend' as a governing ideological policy. Anyone who thought there would be neither taxes nor spending is an idiot.

BrightSpark10 · 01/12/2025 10:33

Party who promised to not tax and spend, taxed and spend 🤷🏼‍♀️

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 10:32

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:00

1/3 of hospitality are facing closure, worse than Covid for them. Why do you feel immune from Labour’s policies? Are you benefiting rather than looking at losing your job or livelihood?

My husband works in hospitality so that’s a bit of an assumption there on your part. I’m no more immune to any government policies than anyone else, but I’m not so stupid to think that either the Tories or Reform, both of whom are either directly or indirectly responsible for the shambles that was inherited by Labour, would be doing any better a job.

CreativeGreen · 01/12/2025 10:32

SleeplessInWherever · 01/12/2025 10:18

I think it’s remarkable that most of us can acknowledge the last 10+ years has been a total shitshow, but some people expect it to be fixed within 5mins.

This, in spades.

hamstersarse · 01/12/2025 10:32

Wellnowlookhere · 01/12/2025 09:30

Genuine question…so who do you think actually IS farming?

I saw that comment and it nearly got me to reply, but I just can't bring myself to argue with such stupidity

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 10:31

Frannieisnthappy · 01/12/2025 10:25

What made you vote Labour this time instead of Conservative?

I voted Tory (it’s a safe seat anyway). I have voted Labour in the past. It’s was obvious Labour would get in and I was ok with that as I thought we needed a change. I remember waking up in the morning, it was sunny, Keir was so enthusiastic and eager to get to work-I felt hopeful.
then the glasses/trousers/free tickets.
then various Rayner issues
then tulip
then whoever the transport minister was
then rayner
now reeves lying.

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EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 10:31

genesis92 · 01/12/2025 10:24

It’s astonishing the amount of people who voted Labour and are now shocked that they are a high tax, high welfare government? What else were you expecting?

I think some still want this but yeh most won’t, as polling shows.

TheEllisGreyMethod · 01/12/2025 10:30

I controversially think labour are doing ok, I didn't vote labour though, I won't next time either.
Theyre certainly a lot more stable than previous governments of recent years.

NancyBellaDonna · 01/12/2025 10:29

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

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