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OH wants to take kids to MIL's on Xmas Day after lunch & leave me home alone?

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snowhunny · 28/11/2025 13:14

Basically I do all the Xmas shopping for the kids, decorating and I make Xmas dinner for everyone.

OH has just dropped it on me that he wants to take the kids to MIL's after dinner.

I am not invited.
I just don't think this is very fair or nice.

MIL is a strange woman, she has never visited us.

Every time a DC has been born we have had to take the baby to her house to meet DC.

She has never bought the kids anything for Xmas or birthdays.

Previously I would buy her Xmas and birthday presents from the kids but I won't be doing that again as I find the effort very one sided.

It's not that we don't get on, she is just a lazy woman.

AIBU to feel annoyed that why should her get the privilege of spending time with my kids when I am the one who puts all the effort in to ensure they have a good Xmas Day?

I would prefer he takes them on Boxing Day.

OP posts:
Francestein · 28/11/2025 21:55

When he said that bulllshit about “every mother’s dream”, you had your chance to say “Good! Then you’ll call her back and tell her that you won’t take your kids away from their own mother on Xmas day (you tactless mummy’s boy *optional.)
What a dick. He sounds as socially lazy as his mum.

RedToothBrush · 28/11/2025 21:50

He does tell me still loves me but "you need to change".

Why won't he change for you? Why do you have to do all the running.

Yes change. By kicking him out.

RedToothBrush · 28/11/2025 21:49

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:07

@AcrossthePond55 yes thank you, I completely agree with what you say.
Yes the house is solely in my name.

He can be quite intimidating whenever we get into arguments, he does raise his voice to me a lot which I find quite abusive.

He always gives me this silly ultimatums such as if I ask him to move out he will stop giving me money for the kids.

He just brings a negative aura in my life to be honest, we can't spend too much time together without arguing (always caused by him).
His negativity towards me really makes me feel super depressed.

I just wish I could be free of him and never have to talk/ see him again but of course I know that's not possible.

I really don't want to be cooking him Xmas dinner (never helps with cooking or washing up) and I have already decided I won't be buying him any Xmas presents.

I have just text him (he is at his mum's) he needs to move out asap as I am so unhappy and it's time to move on.

On the plus side you can lock him out the house and refuse to let him in and he can do fuck all about it. He can go to his mum's.

Call the police if you need to.

Honestly you can't carry on like this - he will teach the kids this is normal. It's not ok.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/11/2025 21:45

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:07

@AcrossthePond55 yes thank you, I completely agree with what you say.
Yes the house is solely in my name.

He can be quite intimidating whenever we get into arguments, he does raise his voice to me a lot which I find quite abusive.

He always gives me this silly ultimatums such as if I ask him to move out he will stop giving me money for the kids.

He just brings a negative aura in my life to be honest, we can't spend too much time together without arguing (always caused by him).
His negativity towards me really makes me feel super depressed.

I just wish I could be free of him and never have to talk/ see him again but of course I know that's not possible.

I really don't want to be cooking him Xmas dinner (never helps with cooking or washing up) and I have already decided I won't be buying him any Xmas presents.

I have just text him (he is at his mum's) he needs to move out asap as I am so unhappy and it's time to move on.

He can be quite intimidating whenever we get into arguments, he does raise his voice to me a lot which I find quite abusive.

It is abusive. Shouting and verbal intimidation can be considered coercive control, which is classified as abuse.

He always gives me this silly ultimatums such as if I ask him to move out he will stop giving me money for the kids.

Without prying, would you be OK without it? By that I mean able to meet the basics but perhaps having to do without 'extras'. Sometimes if we look seriously at our finances we can find that there are things we can do without or find cheaper sources for. It may be a good thing to sit down and go over your figures to see what you can pare down on. Also, what benefits might you be due if he wasn't living there. I'm not in the UK, but I know there are benefit calculators that might help you figure that out. Fingers crossed, you may be surprised.

Also if you kick him out you could file for CMS then he wouldn't have the choice to pay or not, would he? Unless he's self employed and plays the usual shenanigans.

I just wish I could be free of him and never have to talk/ see him again but of course I know that's not possible.

No, sadly it's not. That's part having children with someone. BUT, imagine how nice it would be to be able to put the phone down on him, or shut the door in his face. Because although you'd have to co-parent with him, you wouldn't have to listen to his shit and you wouldn't have to allow him in your house.

I have just text him (he is at his mum's) he needs to move out asap as I am so unhappy and it's time to move on.

Great for you!!! Yee-HAW!!! Can you pack him a bag and drop it on her doorstep? If so, call in an emergency locksmith and then drop the bag off. Arrangements can be made for him to pick up the rest of his stuff. Preferably when you can have relatives at the house to hopefully keep him civil.

PollyBell · 28/11/2025 21:41

GoGoGooo · 28/11/2025 21:36

He opened doors for me, bought me flowers, took me out to nice restaurants, he was literally the perfect man

Maybe I’m old and cynical but this doesn’t sound like the perfect man to me. This sounds like someone who already had very clear ideas of gender roles in their heads and it only took a small thing to tip that into abusive.

Same, if a man is 'perfect' I would run far away

ThejoyofNC · 28/11/2025 21:38

Jesus Christ OP this sounds like absolute hell. I hope you're able to rid yourself of him. Kick him out and apply for CMS.

GoGoGooo · 28/11/2025 21:36

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:33

Basically he was the most nicest man I had ever met.
He opened doors for me, bought me flowers, took me out to nice restaurants, he was literally the perfect man.

He began changing a few years into the relationship when he started hanging around with one of his cousins who he reconnected with at a family funeral

This cousin is very sexist and hold very old fashioned views on women.
Women should cook and clean.
Women should give their man sex every day othwise the man has a right to cheat.
Awful views like that.

I did love him once and was deeply in love with him and I guess I just held onto the belief that one day he would revert back to than man that I had met and fallen in love with. It never happened.

He did change abit during the first pregnancy and was nice but then when I gave being he went back to his nasty self.

We just clash over everything, I try not to say a lot when he is at home as he just turns it into an argument.
I despise him. He does tell me still loves me but "you need to change".

He opened doors for me, bought me flowers, took me out to nice restaurants, he was literally the perfect man

Maybe I’m old and cynical but this doesn’t sound like the perfect man to me. This sounds like someone who already had very clear ideas of gender roles in their heads and it only took a small thing to tip that into abusive.

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:33

Basically he was the most nicest man I had ever met.
He opened doors for me, bought me flowers, took me out to nice restaurants, he was literally the perfect man.

He began changing a few years into the relationship when he started hanging around with one of his cousins who he reconnected with at a family funeral

This cousin is very sexist and hold very old fashioned views on women.
Women should cook and clean.
Women should give their man sex every day othwise the man has a right to cheat.
Awful views like that.

I did love him once and was deeply in love with him and I guess I just held onto the belief that one day he would revert back to than man that I had met and fallen in love with. It never happened.

He did change abit during the first pregnancy and was nice but then when I gave being he went back to his nasty self.

We just clash over everything, I try not to say a lot when he is at home as he just turns it into an argument.
I despise him. He does tell me still loves me but "you need to change".

OP posts:
GoGoGooo · 28/11/2025 21:29

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:21

Yes he gives me a monthly allowance for bills and the kids etc.
I currently only work part time and the money he gives me does help a lot.

Basically when I met him he proposed to me with an engagement ring after 4 months.

We were engaged for 2/3 years when one day he decided he didn't want to get married and only wanted to have kids, by that time I was in my 30s and had basically wasted my best years on his awful man.

I really regret meeting him to be honest, I wish I had left him after he gaslighted me for years.

To be honest he really isn't relationship material, he likes his independence too much.
If I dare say anything to him "your controlling my life" he will tell me but has no qualms in bossing me around in my own house.

I just hope DC don't turn out like him and his messed up family.

How old are your DC? He doesn’t get to opt out of paying for them just because you are separated, but equally he may try and get significant amount of time with them each week to massively reduce how much he has to pay you. I think you either need to accept this shit life or try and make changes which will probably be quite painful. Upping your hours will be difficult to start with but I’d argue, better for you in the long run if you can achieve financial independence. Do you pay your mortgage on your own?

ReadingSoManyThreads · 28/11/2025 21:28

If he's at his mums, I'd just get a locksmith out, although it would be expensive at this time. When's the next time he'll be out? You can buy a lock and fit it yourself to save money. If you don't think you could, then arrange for a handman to fit one you buy for when he's next out. Honestly, men like him are just arrogant bullies, you'll struggle to get him out. You have the option of getting the police involved to get him out, but a locksmith/changing the locks is probably the swiftest way.

TwinklyNight · 28/11/2025 21:23

Matronic6 · 28/11/2025 13:19

I'd say no to that. No way would I be doing all the prep and organising to be excluded in the afternoon. If you are feeling generous, I would say if she wants to spend time with the family on Christmas she is very welcome to come round at some point but you are spending the day with your children.

Yes! Great idea.
Or else he can pop over with the dc on Boxing Day.

Pistachiocake · 28/11/2025 21:23

No-I am all for including grandparents, but not if you're being excluded! I would be fine with any reasonable combination of hosting/visiting most family, but there is no way I would plan to take the kids without my husband, leaving him home alone, and the other way round is equally wrong.

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:21

Yes he gives me a monthly allowance for bills and the kids etc.
I currently only work part time and the money he gives me does help a lot.

Basically when I met him he proposed to me with an engagement ring after 4 months.

We were engaged for 2/3 years when one day he decided he didn't want to get married and only wanted to have kids, by that time I was in my 30s and had basically wasted my best years on his awful man.

I really regret meeting him to be honest, I wish I had left him after he gaslighted me for years.

To be honest he really isn't relationship material, he likes his independence too much.
If I dare say anything to him "your controlling my life" he will tell me but has no qualms in bossing me around in my own house.

I just hope DC don't turn out like him and his messed up family.

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AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 28/11/2025 21:17

So you’ve been together 13 years and have 2 kids under 5. How was he for the 8 years before you got pregnant, OP?

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 28/11/2025 21:14

StartingFreshFor2026 · 28/11/2025 19:10

Oh, like the other poster who also said 'just stop doing it', you have a DH who already actually contributes so your children would never have to actually go without.

You might not celebrate Christmas but the vast majority of families do, and it's important to them. It is important to children.

It's ridiculously unhelpful to blame women with crap husbands for having children with them in the first place. Not exactly constructive and ignores how insidious these relationship problems can be.

Edited

She’s not a victim in her own life. She has chosen to live with him. She chose to have children with him. He was likely crap from day one (I think other posts suggest they have 2 children under 5 but have been together for 13 years). I highly doubt she suddenly woke up one day and her equal partner had transitioned into a nob.

PollyBell · 28/11/2025 21:13

But they are your children it is your job (with your dh) to make sure thry have a nice Christmas not hers so I dont get the logic on that bit

99bottlesofkombucha · 28/11/2025 21:12

100% time to call time on this relationship, wonderful to hear you’re not married and it’s your house. And if he says anything about Christmas presents (the nerve of him) you say coolly you seem to think I’m an awful person for not buying my horrible mil Christmas presents- you’re a man who’s never bought his own dc a present so you must really think you’re just complete scum then. I’m a good parent, I wish you could say the same about yourself.

socool · 28/11/2025 21:08

I may have missed it while just skimming the thread, but I just wondered if he contributes financially to the household. If he does is it substantial and would losing this contribution make life extremely difficult for you and kids? Is that why you are holding on to this piece of selfish weird person? Not the right reason BTW.

If he is not contributing much, are you subsidising HIM? I think either way it's time to reassess the situation.

I wouldn't advise keeping him there for financial reasons, you will manage with benefits if necessary, but maybe you won't/don't need them. Are you tied together in any way, i.e. business etc.? Is there any reason you are not married, and is that a mutual decision? Obviously it's great that you're not in the circumstances.

As pp said, you hold all the cards. Play them well and put yourself and your children first every time. Good luck.

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 21:07

@AcrossthePond55 yes thank you, I completely agree with what you say.
Yes the house is solely in my name.

He can be quite intimidating whenever we get into arguments, he does raise his voice to me a lot which I find quite abusive.

He always gives me this silly ultimatums such as if I ask him to move out he will stop giving me money for the kids.

He just brings a negative aura in my life to be honest, we can't spend too much time together without arguing (always caused by him).
His negativity towards me really makes me feel super depressed.

I just wish I could be free of him and never have to talk/ see him again but of course I know that's not possible.

I really don't want to be cooking him Xmas dinner (never helps with cooking or washing up) and I have already decided I won't be buying him any Xmas presents.

I have just text him (he is at his mum's) he needs to move out asap as I am so unhappy and it's time to move on.

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ReadingSoManyThreads · 28/11/2025 21:06

Yeah, you need to kick this man out of your house this side of Christmas, but really within the week. This isn't a partnership and him and his family sound weird. Him telling you to leave your own him when his family come over, yet wanting your family to make an appointment to visit you in YOUR own house just shows he thinks he's the boss because he's a man. Get that misogynist out of your house now.

fatphalange · 28/11/2025 21:04

Oh just show him the door immediately. There’s time still for a happy Christmas. You’ll still be doing 100% of the Christmassing as a single mother but it’s so much easier without the resentment your OH will cause you, issuing his dysfunctional demands while he sits festering on the sofa, contributing nothing.

Calliopespa · 28/11/2025 20:58

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 13:37

I don't think she has an illness or anything like that but his grandfather passed away this year and wants the kids to see their own grandparents more.

OH has just invited himself to bring the kids round to MIL's after dinner.

She never invites him round, he will have to always call her to arrange going round.

I'm not understanding how you are not invited in this scenario. I mean they aren't either really. Just go with them and put your feet up.

MauveLibrary · 28/11/2025 20:52

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 19:56

No we are not married.
I have already suggested many times that it's time to move on and for him to find his own place, I literally feel like a prisoner in my own home.

I have just asked him why dosent he go to his mum's for his Xmas dinner?
I also have reminded him that it is me putting in all the work on Xmas Day and I am not having the kids cry etc just so he can drag the kids to his lazy mum's to just sit there and listen to their convo's.

They actually start crying every time they go as they get so bored, there's no other kids, no toys nothing.
They aren't allowed to bring toys as last time a toy accidentally was thrown at MIL's head.

You arent married and you own the house. I would tell him that the relationship is over and if you are feeling charitable drop his stuff off at his Mums house. Change the locks. He has zero right to be in your home if you do not want him therr. Dont put up with another second of feeling like you are a prisoner in your own home. Its time for him to go...

AcrossthePond55 · 28/11/2025 20:47

@snowhunny

When you say "It's my house that I own" are you saying that you had this house before you met him? That his name is NOT on this house? Then (pardon me) what the hell are you doing?

You need to sit quietly for a moment and picture, I mean really picture, your home without him in it. Where you only have to 'do for' and clean up after yourself and DC. A house that's quiet and calm with things just as you like. A house where your family comes and goes as it pleases you. And where nobody tells you to 'go upstairs' because 'their' family is visiting (my gast is truly flabbered at that!). Do these thoughts create a longing in you? Then you know what you need to do. And the sooner the better.

"I have already suggested many times that it's time to move on and for him to find his own place"

Don't 'suggest'. TELL him it's time to move out. You are not married, the house is (I'm assuming) in your sole name with him having no legal interests in it, he has no right to be there if you tell him to leave.

I'm asking this very gently, but are you afraid of him for some reason?

PinkyFlamingo · 28/11/2025 20:46

snowhunny · 28/11/2025 16:38

When it was DC's birthday a few weeks ago one of his cousins wanted to visit with their kids.

OH told me "Can you go upstairs or go out to the cinema so we can have family time?"
This is in my own house.

He dosent really see me as family in his eyes.
His family is his family, and my family is my family.

Even with the partners of his aunts/uncles he says they are not my aunt/uncle, only the ones related to me by blood".
He is a very strange man.

And you seem to be a strange woman putting up with this!