Nursery Don’t Let Kids Outside Because it’s Cold

Or using the PIP to get clothing that's suitable is another option

No it wasn't always the case due to ratio. I had to insist with him that he could stay inside when ratio allowed.

If your son has a disability then adjustments would be made for him at nursery but that doesn't mean all the other children shouldn't be able to follow Early Years Guidelines and have free flow inside and out.

No he's just autistic and hates being cold. Lots of people have varied sensory issues and they are often so severe, they classify as disabling them. Some of those people are entitled to PIP to overcome some of the barriers they have to things like work and socialising. Using his PIP to get an uber so he doesn't have to face the distress the cold causes him is sort of why he has it.

You see very few people from my son's background skiing 🤣.

Oh i see you edited. He can perhaps drive or get an uber (PIP).

My son was out yesterday in the snow at his school nursery. We are inner city too. They are meant to be outside for a bit of time each day.

Many work is outside. Even if he does get a " sit on arse in warm office" job then he's actually got to get there. It might be cold

Presume no outdoor sports would ever be played either. Including skiing ( has to be freezing for that)

Why would your job have to involve working outside?

And when they are ay secondary school? Not going to need to be outside then. Even if mummy drops them off at the gate in the range Rover they will still be sent into the playground there

What when they are an adult? Surely they can't just sit indoors Heaven forbid they have a job that involves working outside, precious little lambs won't know what hit them. Even if he gets a cushty little desk job he'd have to get to work and back.

I agree with you OP, children should be outdoors - properly dressed for the weather of course - it's so much healthier.

When I lived in Scandinavia (well above the arctic circle) even kindergarten children (3 and 4 year olds included) were out and about. They had snow suits, boots, hats and mittens and were out in the snow....it wasn't considered a problem unless the temperature dropped below -25 degrees. Babies slept outside in prams too, very much wrapped up and warm but outside.

The whole population grew up to be very much more 'outdoorsy' and definitely healthier. There was no such thing as the "winter cold" and adults/children didn't have endless coughs and colds during the colder months. The idea of a 'rainy playtime' indoors didn't exist either - they'd have laughed at this.

So much better in my opinion!

Surely it’s obvious? The staff can’t be arsed to put coats hats gloves on themselves! And then get the children kitted up. They don’t see the point and don’t actually care about outside time for the children.

a tricky conversation is needed with the nursery manager. The children need to be outside!

No my kids dont have to get used to being outside in freezing weather. Why would they? And no i wouldnt want to force my autistic child to wear clothes that make him feel sick just so I can get him accustomed to being outside in freezing cold weather. He has no plans to be a farmer or anything like that. He'd want a desk job in the warm.

My sons nursery have been out playing all week. Ds won't wear a hat or gloves but that hasn't stopped them taking him outside to play.

They still do that in Iceland and leave babies in prams outside cafes in the snow.

Maybe you could contact the nursery OP and ask if they would welcome donations of warm outside gear, so that those who aren't properly dressed by their parents can still go outside. See what they say then, might give an indication as to whether its really about the children or about the staff.

That's why its even more important to take children out in all weathers from a young age, so they get used to the cold and the wet and all sorts and toughen up a bit. In my country its unworkable for a child to not go outside because they don't like the cold so they all have to get used to it. And they all manage to keep gloves and hats on, even the ones with sensory issues, probably because its non-debatable - they have to have their hats and gloves on and would have got used to them since they were tiny babies.

Yanbu

We live in Canada and unless it's below minus 10, the kids are outdoors.

Yeah I'd really struggle with this as well my boys absolutely have to get outside every day. I agree it sounds like the teachers just don't want to. They need to have a supply of coats for those who didn't bring one, that's what ours has.

I'm a very outdoor person who works in a nursery. We took our babies out for a short while until they started getting red fingers. The slide was put out the way due to icy conditions at the top. We have a canopy we stay under in rain (unless very light), and only stay indoors if very windy due to the garden being next to a building with a slate roof.

It's warmer when it's colder. Why didn't we put gloves on? Because unless they're proper waterproof things they get wet and lose more heat than no gloves at all. When the temperature drops below freezing the water turns to ice and stops getting the children wet. Very cold snow will brush off you. It's the wet snow that really gets you cold.

It’s absolutely an Ofsted requirement for outside play.
Challenge them on it!

Well she was right to leave .
Ofsted expect outdoor play unless dangerous.