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To think the problem with wealth inequality is that rich people don't know how rich they are?

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Neeroy · 17/11/2025 09:04

Article in the Times today saying that people earning six figures 'don't feel rich'.

Because they are surrounded by six figure earning peers they are comparing themselves to people who have more rather than the 90% of the population that have far less. This is why the budget is poorly received in the news, because rich people think they already shoulder too high a burden when in fact compared to everyone else they still have far more disposable income. Even if they have to cut down on the number of holidays they go on. They aren't sitting in the dark under a blanket. Or only making food that doesn't require turning on the oven.

I don't think they realise how so many people have to live.

www.thetimes.com/article/1fb46414-8f65-436f-8f95-451d69626148?shareToken=8061d939633164c0dfbd805240c8e008

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Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 23:26

OneAmberFinch · 19/11/2025 22:57

I just don't know who you are talking about when you talk about people who treat money as a priority.

I live in a 2u2d, I have one child and another on the way, I would love a bigger family. I likely need a bigger house for that. We were at the edge of affordability just for this house. To the extent I dream of pay rises and promotions it's because I hope we can do that before I age out of childbearing years.

I know I am lucky in many ways, I'm easily able to put food on the table, I don't worry too much about bills. It's just that housing is this huge, huge expense which massively affects my life and it's not because I "bought a McMansion".

I find it kind of strange that people just accept that young people are in this situation. Someone with my income should not be worrying about whether it was irresponsible to have a 2nd child or whether a 3rd is an impossible dream.

I answered a post where the poster claimed that people are envious of people with monetary wealth.

That three people misunderstood that and took it personally isn’t my problem.

The reading comprehension on here is shocking.

OneAmberFinch · 19/11/2025 22:57

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 22:01

I am privileged. But money has never been a priority. My family and friends have always been my priority. Along with the people I helped when I was working.

I just don't know who you are talking about when you talk about people who treat money as a priority.

I live in a 2u2d, I have one child and another on the way, I would love a bigger family. I likely need a bigger house for that. We were at the edge of affordability just for this house. To the extent I dream of pay rises and promotions it's because I hope we can do that before I age out of childbearing years.

I know I am lucky in many ways, I'm easily able to put food on the table, I don't worry too much about bills. It's just that housing is this huge, huge expense which massively affects my life and it's not because I "bought a McMansion".

I find it kind of strange that people just accept that young people are in this situation. Someone with my income should not be worrying about whether it was irresponsible to have a 2nd child or whether a 3rd is an impossible dream.

Digdongdoo · 19/11/2025 22:25

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 22:01

I am privileged. But money has never been a priority. My family and friends have always been my priority. Along with the people I helped when I was working.

Lucky you. You had a safety net, some of us are the safety net. Money isn't a priority over friends and family, money is a priority because they are our priority. If you don't need to understand that, then yes, you and your friends and family are indeed privileged.

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 22:13

IDontHateRainbows · 19/11/2025 22:10

Only a rich person would say that. I'll bet if you were really struggling, choosing heating or eating, unable to get your kids new school shoes when their feet grew.. money would be a priority then.

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Yes, I got minted working for the council 🤣

IDontHateRainbows · 19/11/2025 22:10

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 22:01

I am privileged. But money has never been a priority. My family and friends have always been my priority. Along with the people I helped when I was working.

Only a rich person would say that. I'll bet if you were really struggling, choosing heating or eating, unable to get your kids new school shoes when their feet grew.. money would be a priority then.

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 22:01

Digdongdoo · 19/11/2025 20:49

Yes, arguably there's a certain amount of privilege in being in a position to say that money isn't a priority.

I am privileged. But money has never been a priority. My family and friends have always been my priority. Along with the people I helped when I was working.

Digdongdoo · 19/11/2025 20:49

OneAmberFinch · 19/11/2025 20:15

I don't understand why you keep thinking that we "have money as our priority".

I want the same things you do, per your previous post: a comfortable home, family around me, good times and memories.

It's just that a comfortable family home in London is really expensive and requires quite a lot of money...

I don't want the money just to swim in it.

Yes, arguably there's a certain amount of privilege in being in a position to say that money isn't a priority.

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 20:43

OneAmberFinch · 19/11/2025 20:15

I don't understand why you keep thinking that we "have money as our priority".

I want the same things you do, per your previous post: a comfortable home, family around me, good times and memories.

It's just that a comfortable family home in London is really expensive and requires quite a lot of money...

I don't want the money just to swim in it.

I didn’t mention you.

bbwbwka · 19/11/2025 20:38

We got "rich" by saving like hell as soon as we had jobs. For years, me and DH had no holidays, no new clothes, nothing like jewellery/handbags, I have no engagement ring and our wedding was a reg office cheapy for 10 people. Our furniture was stuff from our childhood bedrooms. That was it. There have been periods (spanning years) where we have worked 7 days weeks. Every spare penny went against the mortgage. We now own our house outright and DH earns a very good salary having been in the same industry for 30 years and working exceptionally hard in it.

We have worked our guts out and definitely harder than people in 35h pw jobs. Regularly, we both worked double that and more.

I feel very angry at the govt looking at us as cash cows. We own a band G property. We earned every fucking penny. We did not have generational wealth or any shit like that. Nobody in our family ever went to uni before us and nobody even had any A levels.

We aren't even swimming in money as people seem to think. In fact, the top I'm wearing is about 15 years old and has a large area where the fabric has simply worn away. I could afford a top, but I don't care about the state of my current one. DH is still working tonight, wearing a 2nd hand suit. We could afford to replace these clothes but that isn't how we've got rich.

If we were younger, we would emigrate. The UK has gone to shit with more than half the population not being net contributors. That's what we have to fix, not demonise people who've done well.

OneAmberFinch · 19/11/2025 20:15

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 19:28

So are they rich or not? Your post is full of contradictions. Btw, not everyone wants what they have. People prioritise different things. Believe it or not, not everyone wants money to be their priority.

I don't understand why you keep thinking that we "have money as our priority".

I want the same things you do, per your previous post: a comfortable home, family around me, good times and memories.

It's just that a comfortable family home in London is really expensive and requires quite a lot of money...

I don't want the money just to swim in it.

Differentforgirls · 19/11/2025 19:28

ThisTicklishFatball · 19/11/2025 17:00

I’m not sure it’s as simple as saying people on six figures ‘don’t realise they’re rich.’

A lot of them do know it — but high earners also live in the same economy as everyone else, with the same costs rising at the same pace, just multiplied by mortgages, childcare, and taxes that scale up with their income.

It’s easy to say ‘they should feel wealthy,’ but lifestyle inflation, social pressure, and higher fixed expenses are very real.

If everyone around you earns similarly, your perception adjusts — that’s basic human psychology, not moral failure.

And while it’s true that many have more disposable income than lower earners, they’re also the ones funding a disproportionate chunk of public services through taxation.

The narrative that they’re some aloof class floating above reality isn’t always accurate.

Not every high earner is lounging on yachts and flying to Dubai twice a month.
A lot are just trying to manage their finances like everyone else — with bigger numbers attached, yes, but also bigger obligations.

People can struggle at different income levels for different reasons. It doesn’t always mean they’re oblivious — just human.

I find it amusing and intriguing that people often dislike the wealthy yet want everything they have without leaving them a scrap. It seems like everyone who resents the rich wants to take all they own and leave them with nothing. Then the cycle starts again, as those below will want what those above possess, and this continues endlessly.

So are they rich or not? Your post is full of contradictions. Btw, not everyone wants what they have. People prioritise different things. Believe it or not, not everyone wants money to be their priority.

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 19/11/2025 18:56

Digdongdoo · 19/11/2025 17:22

How soon into earning 6 figures does one become rich? First paycheck? What if someone earns 6 figures for just a few years? Are they still rich?

If I started earning 6 figures next year (and I hope in the not too distant future I do), I won't be rich. For reasons outside of my control, I don't have any savings, my pension might last a year, and the only other assets of value I own are my old macbook and a secondhand car.

British wages are so stagnant, I don't believe the answer is to tax people earning over £40k anymore. The fact that so few people earn £50k and above is appalling, a couple of million isn't a vast amount anymore and hasn't been for some time.

We need to find a way to ensure the 1% and corporations like Amazon pay proportional tax and I don't for a second believe that it's impossible.

Digdongdoo · 19/11/2025 17:22

How soon into earning 6 figures does one become rich? First paycheck? What if someone earns 6 figures for just a few years? Are they still rich?

ThisTicklishFatball · 19/11/2025 17:00

I’m not sure it’s as simple as saying people on six figures ‘don’t realise they’re rich.’

A lot of them do know it — but high earners also live in the same economy as everyone else, with the same costs rising at the same pace, just multiplied by mortgages, childcare, and taxes that scale up with their income.

It’s easy to say ‘they should feel wealthy,’ but lifestyle inflation, social pressure, and higher fixed expenses are very real.

If everyone around you earns similarly, your perception adjusts — that’s basic human psychology, not moral failure.

And while it’s true that many have more disposable income than lower earners, they’re also the ones funding a disproportionate chunk of public services through taxation.

The narrative that they’re some aloof class floating above reality isn’t always accurate.

Not every high earner is lounging on yachts and flying to Dubai twice a month.
A lot are just trying to manage their finances like everyone else — with bigger numbers attached, yes, but also bigger obligations.

People can struggle at different income levels for different reasons. It doesn’t always mean they’re oblivious — just human.

I find it amusing and intriguing that people often dislike the wealthy yet want everything they have without leaving them a scrap. It seems like everyone who resents the rich wants to take all they own and leave them with nothing. Then the cycle starts again, as those below will want what those above possess, and this continues endlessly.

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 20:22

Boohoo76 · 18/11/2025 17:03

It’s not acceptable that you believe that people from difficult backgrounds cannot succeed in life. That’s what I call narrow minded. People like you are ruining this country, keeping people “in their place” because they can’t possible be expected to get a well paid job.

Sorry, what? I've never once suggested that 'people from difficult backgrounds cannot succeed in life'. Where are you getting that from?

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 20:21

Digdongdoo · 18/11/2025 16:21

Well yeah. That's why I said some.
It's just getting a bit tiresome hearing the same binary thinking as though life is always either struggle or privilege and nothing in between.

Nobody has suggested that though.

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 20:20

OneAmberFinch · 18/11/2025 16:06

It still feels a bit unfair though to accuse someone like @Boohoo76 of not having any idea how the poor live, being really out of touch, having no perspective etc.

You might say that she is underestimating how hard it is for others to replicate what she did, or something, but I think this is different from the theme of the thread which is that people on £100k (HOUSEHOLD) have never even met a poor person and have no idea what their lives are like.

I've not accused anyone, I've stated that it's not always simple to understand other people's behaviour and that it's naive to jump to conclusions.

user1497510803 · 18/11/2025 17:28

I think ' being rich ' can mean different things to different people . Obviously multimillionaire who live fabulous lives and move in those circles are .
Then there are others that live a modest lifestyle , that have a decent life , living and spending what they like whilst having no debts and a good amount of money in the bank they are rich also.
I'm probably in the latter , we've paid off our mortgage , children grown up , a few years off from getting a state pension but not working as decided to stop working 10 years ago , and we've got enough money to do and go where we want and buy what I want and a good pension pot waiting for when we want to draw it .
So I feel rich although the millionaires on here would probably disagree .

OttersMayHaveShifted · 18/11/2025 17:23

No, the problem with wealth inequality is not that richer people don't recognise they are rich. The problem with wealth inequality is that some people are very poor. 6-figure salary people recognising they are wealthy won't make poor people any less poor.

Icebabyice · 18/11/2025 17:13

percypiggy200 · 18/11/2025 10:50

Yes you’re bashed if you want to earn more even though you are literally subsidizing all those who hate you for your “greed.”

You’re bashed even more if you provide employment for people - you’re assumed to be a leech on society that doesn’t pay taxes. It’s seemed unacceptable to suggest the poor are lazy but perfectly fine to assume the rich are tax dodgers - and that’s being kind. I know what it’s like to be poor - I grew up that way - I was lucky - I was able to to pass exams, get a good job and a good husband. I feel people are not able to retrain as adults as easily as they should - we have devalued technical colleges and we have limited choices

Boohoo76 · 18/11/2025 17:03

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 15:57

Good for you, me too, but I think you're being naive if you think it's the same for everyone. It really isn't. I speak from experience (not my own). Calling genuine reasons "reasons" or excuses isn't acceptable imho, it's quite narrow-minded.

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It’s not acceptable that you believe that people from difficult backgrounds cannot succeed in life. That’s what I call narrow minded. People like you are ruining this country, keeping people “in their place” because they can’t possible be expected to get a well paid job.

Tiramisutully · 18/11/2025 16:48

Most of the people in £100k live in London and the SE though, where £800k is the minimum for a 3 bed house ina decent catchment area. They’re not taking out massive mortgages for a laugh.^^

Digdongdoo · 18/11/2025 16:21

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 15:42

Of course some people do this.
Others appear to do this, but there could be a whole host of reasons (already explained) behind not seemingly fully applying yourself.

Well yeah. That's why I said some.
It's just getting a bit tiresome hearing the same binary thinking as though life is always either struggle or privilege and nothing in between.

OneAmberFinch · 18/11/2025 16:06

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 15:57

Good for you, me too, but I think you're being naive if you think it's the same for everyone. It really isn't. I speak from experience (not my own). Calling genuine reasons "reasons" or excuses isn't acceptable imho, it's quite narrow-minded.

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It still feels a bit unfair though to accuse someone like @Boohoo76 of not having any idea how the poor live, being really out of touch, having no perspective etc.

You might say that she is underestimating how hard it is for others to replicate what she did, or something, but I think this is different from the theme of the thread which is that people on £100k (HOUSEHOLD) have never even met a poor person and have no idea what their lives are like.

GehenSieweiter · 18/11/2025 15:57

Boohoo76 · 18/11/2025 15:50

They are if you let them be. I had plenty of “reasons” to not succeed but I was determined to live a different life to my parents.

Good for you, me too, but I think you're being naive if you think it's the same for everyone. It really isn't. I speak from experience (not my own). Calling genuine reasons "reasons" or excuses isn't acceptable imho, it's quite narrow-minded.