To think this is a shocking waste of taxpayer’s money??

But we can’t afford it.

We cut our cloth to suit surely? We do in our personal lives.

Any other child costs about £8k per year to educate in state?

£250k is disproportionate.

Like it or not, every child has the right to an education. Sending a child home with no education isn't an option because it is against the law.

Again, residential schools are also often a very last resort. spaces are limited and it can take years and years to get a residential school placement. They are not handed out like sweets.

Would you prefer a child with incredibly high needs end up in your child's mainstream class? It would save money but somehow, I think you'd complain about that too. People can't have it both ways.

This is a disgusting response.

a lot of the comments on here are diabolical.

just because someone won’t be fully independent (i’d like to know the definition of that!) doesn’t mean they don’t have the right to learn skills, be around people and be cared for. Everyone has a right to an education and everyone will different skills at different rates.

To educate and care for people with such complex needs requires expertise and money.

Alot of people on here seem to be going along the lines of a eugenics programme. The comments are awful.

What's the alternative though? Especially considering residential spaces are often a last resort when other settings have been tried but were unsuitable.

He lives in own house with 24 hour support from several support workers. Their role is to support his needs not compete with them which is what would happen if he shared with others.

He that should say not it. Just noticed thpo

So where does it live? Totally alone? This guy lived with his parents now shares constantly with random carers

It can stop people sharing. My son can't share.

The public could vote for better public services, if they were willing to pay for it

And this can happen eg in Scotland, they pay slightly higher income tax to fund university fees and personal care fir elderly

They were got rid of because they very often occupied large areas of prime development land and the government wanted to cash it in. We lived close to one that had lovely villas where inmates lived in small groups with beautiful gardens in between. It also incorporated a farm with fields and orchards that provided a lot of the food. People who were able to worked on the farm, in the gardens or in the kitchens and laundry. It sold for millions (and that was back then) and became a very expensive housing estate. The residents were put into the community, bewildered, separated from their friends and somehow expected to cope alone, I have no idea what happened to those who were literally unable to look after themselves at all, doubly incontinent, unable to feed themselves and with very little comprehension. I think it was a disaster. And then you read on here the terrible situations families are coping with, with severely disabled and sometimes violent adult children, looking after them on their own with no respite, it really doesn't seem like an improvement.

There is no local suitable place I suspect. That's the issue. They stopped all these and now are housing single people in 2 bed flat with carers And families who need these places are in one bedroom. No sense.

Learning difficulties do not stop someone having their private room in a shared house.

A friend told me their non-verbal daughter had got a place at a residential school costing the tax payer £250k a year, how can this be good value for money? Great for their DD, but even so she is not ever going to be able to live independently, her needs are too complex and that sort of money could help a number of children to reach their potential and live useful independent lives.

Perhaps he can't share or a there is no local suitable shared placement. You cannot just put a random mix of people together and expect it to work. Also if you put multiple people requiring 1:1 together you cannot assume they will all need 1:1 at different times.

So no personal care at all?

His dad is a friend of mine. It's 1 to 1 care to make sure he doesn't do things like turn the oven on or put the kettle on unsupervised. So yeah he could cope with someone in kitchen / communal area preventing that. He wouldn't need the 1 to 2 mm1 if it wasn't a flat that theirs only room for him and a carer

You can't think of a reason why someone who is deemed necessary to have 1:1 care 24 hours per day may not be suitable to have 1:4 care instead?.

He will have 1:1 care for good reason.

Hmm down my road is a guy living alone with learning disabilities. He's in a 2 bed flat paid for. Has a career 24 hours . No physical needs. No reason he wouldn't cope as well in a shared house with communal area and a carer on site for 4. people with similar needs. That has to be cheaper than paying for 24/ hour care per person plus 4 2 bed glats

Yes every time there is a thread on this topic some people come out with ' bring back institutions to save money'.
It never seems to sink in that institutions were got rid of because they were more expensive.

I don’t believe it will save money.

I believe we are as a country yes. I wouldn't support private equity firms offering these services as they do and making huge profits (billions wasted). We could cut costs tomorrow..but not services

Will it though? Be interesting to see in a decades tibe

Just the tip of the iceberg. Some people have 6+ kids taken into care - think of the court costs, staff costs, placement costs just for one family! Multiply that by thousands of families up and down the country.

You’re capable of paying for it then?

We are foster carers for our local authority. Before we started we looked at private providers in our area but both felt ut was immoral to profiteer from social needs .
There are some amazing private providers who do not do this.
Our LA has joined with other local ones and they are trying to do fostering 'in house' because outside agencies charge massive amounts compared , with the actual foster carers seeing little difference.
There are obviously some serious cases where children may need specialised/ more specific care but in a case local to us, a young girl in solo care (2 adults : 1 child) was plied with drinks and sexually abused by her 2 male 'carers' which had been outsourced .

You shouldn't be able to profiteer from essential services such as education/social care/justice-prisons/nhs/police etc