To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

Are you only listening to the artists who are morally incorruptible and never drink, do drugs, cheat; cause, or God forbid, have unwanted pregnancies? I guess pretty much all contemporary music is banned in your house?

Isn’t it funny how on mn, there’s (understandably) uproar about men watching porn, but a woman using sex workers is fine and dandy?

I said I don't judge women for their abortion choices, or how many they have. But I do judge her comments yeah, because I thought they were crass about a seriously emotive subject. I have admitted that I have judged her comments, I am openly judging her abortion comments, right here. I think they were disgusting to laugh, the pair of them, in the way they did. As I said, there are ways of being lighthearted about such subjects and I think theirs was not it.

Equally, you are judging my opinion about it. I am free to judge her public comments, as you are free to judge my public comments here, and you very much are.

Is this the same lily Allen who bragged about not knowing how many abortions she has had, also cheated on her first husband? Yeah no thanks. She had one good song, and has been riding off the coat tails of her father.

It’s hardly original

Sorry so she’s pissed off that he had sex with someone who wasn’t a sex worker whilst they were married but she’s happy to have sex with Liam Gallagher whilst he was married?
I really hope her first husband plays a huge role in the parenting of her children as LA is a shit role model for them.

Not a fan of Lily as a rule, but I had a listen to the album today after hearing about the incendiary lyrics. Aside from a couple of tracks that aren't my cup of tea, it's really good.

It would absolutely fine for your friend to make light of her own miscarriage. People can cope and reflect on situations as they wish. As far as I know LA wasn't laughing or mocking anyone else's experiences, she made a glib comment about her own experience. You say you're not judging while pontificating certain things point blank aren't okay, just because it's not how you would speak about your own experiences. Thats judgy!

Sadly…

I listened to some of it this afternoon...absolutely loving it. Go Lily!

I actually hope she does really really well because the lift, hopefully, will help her so much mentally. When we are all happier we tend to make good choices :-)

I mean... I have very little idea about how she is as a parent, or how any of this has impacted her kids (of course, it will, but maybe she is excellent at mitigating the harm with other strategies). I don't think that making a very good album is an indication of anything other than that she has a lot of talent and drive, and good for her, she is using that.

I don’t like her and won’t be listening.

🤐

Living life based on the most up to date medical advice and never fucking up anything ever 😂

I agree. She is not perfect, smart, or even particularly nice, but she is very likable and her lyrics stick with you. She is just someone who tries her best to find happiness, and has no idea how to do that - and is very frank about herself and others. I do think its a talent, not many people would be able to be this open even if they tried - also, not many people would have anything entertaining to sing about (like a lot of virtuous ladies on here - would would you sing about? Shopping in M&S?)

Too late!

I really hope this thread doesn’t become a Lily bashing thread… or one that bashes abortions either. Please be respectful of people’s choices!

I love Lily Allen. And think she’s one of the hottest women alive.

I don’t give a fuck how many abortions she’s had.

She’s a trailblazer

She was doing it way before Taylor swift, just less successfully. She’s been slagging off her exs in her music since 2006 😂

This is what I quite like about her. She’s unapologetically fucked up and takes everyone on the journey

There’s a clip floating about of how their break up broke her, it’s so sad, awful that I assume he must be an asshole without knowing the details.

and then had to write, record and tour an album, away from her kids, in order to stop her house being sold to pay the taxman

Well, yes. We all have to pay our taxes. How does that become part of the hard luck story? If she'd paid her taxes, she would have kept her house.

We have very diffrent views of good parenting then.

Emotionally screwed up artists leading chaotic lives rarely make good parents.
They may make good art, but they hurt their children.

Lily Allen doesn't even make good art. She's just hurting her children.