To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

She seems like a vile person. Her constant attention seeking is very annoying.

Agreed - you can enjoy clever music without wanting to be the person's friend

She didn't brag about it. She just refused to show the shame expected of women.

So she is female so cant use her own brain? How patronising

I just read a few of the other posts. I don't judge LA. No skin in the game I don't know her.

What I do know is that not all terminations are straight forward. I am a doctor and have seen the complications. The basis for your arguement as such OP, is not a sound one.

Please read the college guidelines on termination of pregnancy before writing stuff like this down on a public forum. Also before deciding what to teach your children ( if you have any). Abortions are never viewed as contraception given the potential associated risks associated with them, be it surgical or medical.

Do we say that about men who treat their partners badly?

Threw onions at me, full on rage. Must be pushing 20 years ago now. The onions came out of his shopping bag that he had with him. Funny now I look back but at the time it was a bit surreal and a bit startling. I worked in the media at the time so more than likely deserved it, but I still avoid seeing his face where I can!

Looking forward to this. She’s an incredibly damaged narcissist who, unlike most men with the same flaws, is incredibly truthful both to herself and others about who she is.

Cheating is cheating though isn't it? Liam, David and Lily are all cheaters equally imo. They are all aware of what they are doing.

Dying to know about the altercation with Jude Law!

Not sure how I feel about celebs airing their dirty laundry in public when there are children involved either, just feels a bit 'off' to me.
It is extreme self indulgence especially when lessons have not been learned, she doesn't care how her words impact on other people. Including her DC as long as she has media attention.

I'm surprised Zoe Kravitz allegation of assault hasn't been mentioned here - Lily claimed in her book that they kissed, Zoe said it was 'an attack'

Lily doesn't exactly go to great lengths to deny the allegation

Azealia Banks also claims Lily was racist towards her but that Lily later apologised for the racist tweets. If I recall correctly Lily had dressed her husbands penis up in 'black face' (can it be called that on a penis?) and tweeted it out to Azealia.

Lily has always been problematic which is why I'm surprised to see her garner so much support on here. A difficult or traumatic childhood doesn't excuse behaviour much later in life.

I haven't listened to her album yet, I'm not sure if I will or not - I'm assuming it to be similar to Beyonces Lemonade album?

Not sure how I feel about celebs airing their dirty laundry in public when there are children involved either, just feels a bit 'off' to me.

It was a perfect response to your original belittling comment, regarding people's choices and comparing them to bible belt America. And calling me ridiculous for something I've not even said is actually belittling too btw.

Perhaps people in glass houses etc.

I also find amusing your putting words in my mouth. I never said she is below me, am not on a high horse. I was merely pointing out that people do actually have their own levels of what they find acceptable and are perfectly entitled to have them without being compared to religious America which you did.

For the record, I never said you couldn't say anything, I was actually responding to your judgement of others.. are they not allowed to say or think what they want too or is it only a 'you' thing?

It's strange conversing with you because it seems to be shifting each reply and reading into my posts what is simply not there.

You sound quite controlling. You can't tell someone how they can react to your posts, or how they respond. Belittling someone is also not a good look.

I can say whatever I want, so as Lily Allen! You can chose to get on a high horse and say she is below you on some sort of a moral scale. And I can say you are being ridiculous.

Yes.. What a shit. I think Lily can do better with out this toad.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Can someone tell me whether there's a full moon tonight?

I’m half way through- it’s excellent- clever and original

Which bit of "I am being flippant, granted" did you not get before you got all outraged comparing with nonces? I guess that passed you by.

I also made a point of people's level of acceptable is different which I guess escaped you too. Some may be anti-abortion, some may not like the way she's spoken about other things in the past. It's perfectly acceptable to avoid the arts of someone they do not like. It's called freedom of choice and it doesn't have to be justified.

The last bit of your post I won't bother to answer because I already said I personally didn't care, this isn't a female thing, or a press thing. Thanks tho.

Sorry, haven't RTFT so I don't know if anyone has posted this already, but there was an interesting critique on the BBC today, it mentions that she wrote some of the album as a "character":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypgze4l2zo

My first listen earlier made me think “they had an agreement for him to sleep with other people and then she was shocked he developed feelings for one of them?!”

However on second listen I’ve changed my mind slightly. If it was as told in the songs, he called her up whilst she was away working in London and essentially blindsided her by saying he was unhappy and wanted to sleep with other people. Having upped and moved her kids to a different country only a year prior, I can see how she may have felt under pressure to try and stay in the marriage.