To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

I think you've wandered here from the 1950s and got lost

Youre not wrong - Eric Clapton, Corey Taylor, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake, Kanye, Justin Bieber. It’s a fairly safe assumption that if you write songs at some point you’ll write about a break up.

Why do you think you're being required to feel sorry for her?

I think she is actually intelligent and self aware

I think such nuances are lost on many people here

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It’s a martial arts meditation peace like place

Another problem I have with Allen's "putting it all out there" approach is that sometimes you can tell she thinks she's coming across as very cool and relatable, with the things she says, but she's actually making herself look terrible. She's trying to aura farm, to make herself seem like the Cool Girl who is just the right amount of hot mess, but ends up making you cringe instead.

It's like when a recovering addict is telling you a story of some wild night they had coked out of their mind, and you find it all a bit seedy and pathetic. But you can tell this story still has a sheen of rock-star glamour for them. They think it makes them sound cool and interesting, and have no idea how they're actually coming across.

A fetus isn't a person though.

I’m surprised and quite frankly quite shocked that so many here have so few morals. She doesn’t seem to care who she hurts, how her children must feel hearing their mother sing about about her relationships. How they must feel about her sexual exploits and her “contraception”.
Ultimately if you care about your children you keep your mouth shut. The thought of my mother having sex is horrific let alone all the other stuff!!

A clump of cells is not an early human life.

I absolutely do not feel sorry for her one bit. She openly went on a podcast and laughed about how she couldn’t remember how many abortions she’s had …

Shes a pillar of morals and class. Not!

Even if you are pro choice, it doesn’t absolve you of basic personal responsibility, and shouldn’t strip you of some care for human life, whatever your opinion on abortion It does involve ending an early human life.

I think Lily Allen is fab. Quite humble in many ways & very real about acknowledging her own advantages in life / her mess ups / her weaknesses / her struggles / her views / her privileges.

I honestly don't get the passionate hate so many ppl have towards her. It baffles me.

I reckon if most of us knew her day to day she'd be a good / fun / valuable / supportive person to have around.

And this has reminded me to listen to her new album so thank you v much @AngeloMysterioso!

Maybe she was laughing at herself not remembering and not laughing about the abortions themselves?

I don’t love her because I don’t know her. But I love her album. Yes I do.

Haha how funny.... , I don't have multiple kds, don't use sex workers and I haven't laughed about multiple abortions. You love her, that's fine but god forbid she was a man. All the women on here like you would then be absolutely roasting her instead of apologising for all of her disgusting behaviour. To the Op why thought her lyrics were amazing... Pussy palace??

Thank you.

Not to mention what she did to that poor dog

Never liked her. Always thought she was a spoilt, middle class, part privately educated entitled attention seeking prat. Very false

And l couldn't"t care less about her and her ex partners.

But she has been off the music scene for a while and needs to sell her new so called, ground breaking album and she will do anything for publicity to sell it.

But the what do would expect from the daughter of prize dick head and chancer Keith Allen.

Go away Lily get therapy and a proper job.

It's not like writing songs about exes is unusual, Taylor Swift has made a career out of it.

I just don’t personally like her, rate any of her previous music or feel sorry to someone born into privilege who has still managed to turn their personal life into a public car crash. I’m just one potential listener though, if enough other people feel differently then the album will do well.

She may be a terrible person but she is at least incredibly honest and brave to own up to her failings and mistakes, knowing that so many people who have never met her are going to write the nastiest, most vitriolic hate they can think of about her.

@CoralPombear

sorry I didn’t realise we are only supposed to listen to artists considered to be good people…

I don’t know her personally but everything I’ve seen, heard and read about her tend to point to her being a terrible person. I won’t be listening.