To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

Ah sorry I thought you’d listened to the album - she makes it super clear on there that she felt strong armed into and then he broke the rules they set anyway. The whole thing is like reading her diary which is just about how much she hates him.

I’m Lily’s age and I do think she’s a really interesting barometer of our generation. All this stuff seemed so liberating and feminist when we were younger but the problem is, if you live by the sword you die by the sword. And even if it’s all above board and consensual on paper, it’s never that simple is it? There’s a reason why she felt she had to agree to opening the marriage - she was on the back foot in that relationship even as a rich and famous pop star (and is now discussing the element of shame and humiliation she feels in dating again at 40). I really don’t know what we as women need to do to win this game but this ain’t it.

Maybe you should tell the pope.

Oh dear, I’m not pretending to be that interested or have a degree un Lily Allenism. But she’s spoken about using escorts herself and I assumed an open marriage gives both parties permission to play away.

It's utter nonsense say contraception and abortion are the same thing. I'm pro choice but Lily Allen was careless and stupid using abortion as contraception.

Totally agree. Look at all the people who revered (and still do) male rock stars like Steven Tyler, Jimmy Page etc who literally had sex with children and no-one said a word about it!

Errm... you do realise contraception works by preventing that life from beginning in the first place, right? 🤔

You could also say that about contraception.

Yes, people were so horrible about her! Terrible. If Lily wasn’t around anymore it would be all “pioneering and brutally honest artist” etc etc. but now when she’s alive she too much for so many who likes to keep things sanitized. I think what’s interesting is that of course there’s lots of musicians with even more or a rock n roll lifestyle that we don’t criticize at all…wonder how that can be….let’s see..could be it be because they’re men? Lol

I’m surprised and quite frankly quite shocked that so many here have so few morals. She doesn’t seem to care who she hurts, how her children must feel hearing their mother sing about about her relationships. How they must feel about her sexual exploits and her “contraception”.
Ultimately if you care about your children you keep your mouth shut. The thought of my mother having sex is horrific let alone all the other stuff!!

You could also say that about contraception.

Even if you are pro choice, it doesn’t absolve you of basic personal responsibility, and shouldn’t strip you of some care for human life, whatever your opinion on abortion It does involve ending an early human life.

My head hurts at the thought of people comparing LA and AW talent wise 😂

You can’t help feeling it’s not what she wanted? She makes that almost explicitly clear in nearly every song, that she was blindsided by the request, is a people pleaser and was saddened by the situation but thought he needed it to be happy.

Yes, people were so horrible about her! Terrible. If Lily wasn’t around anymore it would be all “pioneering and brutally honest artist” etc etc. but now when she’s alive she too much for so many who likes to keep things sanitized. I think what’s interesting is that of course there’s lots of musicians with even more or a rock n roll lifestyle that we don’t criticize at all…wonder how that can be….let’s see..could be it be because they’re men? Lol

If Lily had gone the same way as Amy, no way would I be calling her pioneering and brutally honest. 🙄 What a weird thing to suggest. I would never be a fan of hers, and suddenly start praising her if she was no longer here.

And she lives a rock and roll lifestyle? LOL, hardly! She's not a rock star. She is a talentless nepo baby. And no, she is not disliked by some because she's not a man. 🙄

I always thought she was deeply annoying but that's vile.

Artists take inspiration from their life, I don't object to that, but I don't like the prose of Madeleine. In theory it should have been a good song but not the way it's written. Frankly if you go in for an "open marriage" what do you expect? There is no guarantee one of you won't fall for someone else. Harbour clearly felt he had a free pass to do whatever he liked and let's not forget he's a spoilt Hollywood actor. I can't help feeling it was all his idea and not what she really wanted.

She used sex workers to cheat on her first husband.

Her second husband used sex workers with her consent per her album. Per her album what she was upset about is he had sex with someone who wasn't a sex worker.

So her compliant is - it is fine to use sex workers in our marriage. But have feelings for another person and I will sing all about it.

Not a nice person.

Wasn’t she pretty deep into her drug/alcohol addiction at the time?