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To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

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AngeloMysterioso · 24/10/2025 11:33

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

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fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:12

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:00

How patronising.

😂

FourNaanJeremy · 26/10/2025 16:11

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:06

I think we've established that LA is, having slept with prostitutes, officially 'scum' and beyond all redemption. Going to hell. An Officially Terrible Person. So probably not worth talking about this anymore?!

Well maybe that’s some people’s take.
I personally: don’t like her music, don’t like her as a person based on what she shares about her self and feel no guilt at all about having no sympathy for her.
If you feel differently that’s fine. But not everyone has to agree.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:10

FourNaanJeremy · 26/10/2025 16:06

No, but they can afford the many hours and forms of private therapy that most ‘damaged’ people on a years and years long NHS waiting list can’t.

Indeed they can

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:09

Am I an Officially Terrible Person now as well as Lily Allen? Is there a sticker I can wear?

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:09

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:08

Well we've also established you're a hypocrite.

Yes, yes we have

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:08

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:06

I think we've established that LA is, having slept with prostitutes, officially 'scum' and beyond all redemption. Going to hell. An Officially Terrible Person. So probably not worth talking about this anymore?!

Well we've also established you're a hypocrite.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:07

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Oh yes, I am a total hypocrite 🙂

FourNaanJeremy · 26/10/2025 16:06

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:03

People can't just magically 'sort their shit out' just because they are wealthy. That's not how healing works. You need to be ready.

No, but they can afford the many hours and forms of private therapy that most ‘damaged’ people on a years and years long NHS waiting list can’t.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:06

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:03

What exactly is black and white about prostitution and the scum who use prostitutes?

I think we've established that LA is, having slept with prostitutes, officially 'scum' and beyond all redemption. Going to hell. An Officially Terrible Person. So probably not worth talking about this anymore?!

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:05

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fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:04

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:02

It's astonishing that you seem to think you have such a firm grasp of the moral compass.

Do you expend so much compassion and understanding on male punters?

No, I don't.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:03

FourNaanJeremy · 26/10/2025 16:00

You said you were upset by peoples lack of compassion.

I’m not sure why LA is owed any compassion. She’s in one of the most privileged positions anyone in the world could be in to sort their shit out if she wanted/needed to. I also don’t know if she actually wants compassion from anyone - she appears to be quite happy to continue profiting from her questionable choices by rehashing it all in various media forms every 5 minutes.

People can't just magically 'sort their shit out' just because they are wealthy. That's not how healing works. You need to be ready.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:03

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:00

Ffs. I don't even 'like' Lily Allen. I think she'd be total nightmare to know. I just can't stand the narrow minded, black and white moralising on this thread. Who cares if we 'like' her or not? It's a music album.

What exactly is black and white about prostitution and the scum who use prostitutes?

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:02

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:59

See my post above. Astonishing idea isn't it!

It's astonishing that you seem to think you have such a firm grasp of the moral compass.

Do you expend so much compassion and understanding on male punters?

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 16:00

Ffs. I don't even 'like' Lily Allen. I think she'd be total nightmare to know. I just can't stand the narrow minded, black and white moralising on this thread. Who cares if we 'like' her or not? It's a music album.

FourNaanJeremy · 26/10/2025 16:00

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:51

I didn't plead for sympathy or say that being damaged excuses doing bad things. You are projecting a lot of emotion and incorrect assumptions onto my post

You said you were upset by peoples lack of compassion.

I’m not sure why LA is owed any compassion. She’s in one of the most privileged positions anyone in the world could be in to sort their shit out if she wanted/needed to. I also don’t know if she actually wants compassion from anyone - she appears to be quite happy to continue profiting from her questionable choices by rehashing it all in various media forms every 5 minutes.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 16:00

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:58

I just want to introduce the astonishing idea that you can feel... both sympathy for someone and... not like some of the things they have done.

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How patronising.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:59

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 15:58

That is the first sensible thing you've said.

I'm depressed at people's lack of compassion and understanding of human psychology in general. You know what a woman who was addicted to substances, cheats on partners and sleeps with 'sex workers' (not a term I like as it sanitises the reality of prostitution) is? Damaged and full of self loathing. Damaged people do things that sometimes hurt other people.

Why on earth do you think anyone should have compassion and understanding of any person who uses prostitutes?

See my post above. Astonishing idea isn't it!

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 15:58

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:55

Ok, she is officially 'scum'

That is the first sensible thing you've said.

I'm depressed at people's lack of compassion and understanding of human psychology in general. You know what a woman who was addicted to substances, cheats on partners and sleeps with 'sex workers' (not a term I like as it sanitises the reality of prostitution) is? Damaged and full of self loathing. Damaged people do things that sometimes hurt other people.

Why on earth do you think anyone should have compassion and understanding of any person who uses prostitutes?

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:58

I just want to introduce the astonishing idea that you can feel... both sympathy for someone and... not like some of the things they have done.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:55

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 15:54

Oh pardon me. You were berating posters for lacking sympathy and compassion for a punter. Sorry, if I fail to meet your standards, but as a class, punters are scum.

Ok, she is officially 'scum'

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 26/10/2025 15:54

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:44

I didn't say she was sweet. I didn't say I liked her. I didn't say being damaged was an excuse for doing bad things. This is all projection.

Oh pardon me. You were berating posters for lacking sympathy and compassion for a punter. Sorry, if I fail to meet your standards, but as a class, punters are scum.

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:51

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I didn't plead for sympathy or say that being damaged excuses doing bad things. You are projecting a lot of emotion and incorrect assumptions onto my post

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 15:50

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