Cost of cleaner…

Tell me you know nothing about self-employment without telling me you know nothing about self-employment. You pay your cleaner less than £18 and it’s fucking shameful because they are earning less than minimum wage and you probably know that. They have to cover their running costs their business insurancetheir sickness, their holiday and the pension or with that as well that comes out to Wallander £12 an hour or you’re incredibly naive. In any case, it’s shameful.

There is almost certainly an air of, I put myself through an education to better myself and now have debts to pay off, whereas cleaners left school straight after GCSEs to start earning straight away and therefore haven't acquired any such debts.

In Ireland and my cleaner is €20 an hour. She’s honestly not that great but she still does a better job on the bathrooms than I’ll ever do. I don’t have a set routine with her, I just get her whenever it all starts getting on top of me. I had a different one who was €15 an hour but used all my stuff and was really unreliable.

Wtf are you on about? Our cleaner advertised her services and told us this is my hourly rate. We didn't barter her down!

Also the UK minimum wage atm is £12.21 per hour. So unless you're paying less than that or demanding they supply their own products, then no, you're doing absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.

Wow! You think all cleaners are less educated than their clients?

We pay £25 an hour for our cleaner. She does a few other jobs for us as well as cleaning though, so she is usually here for 6-8 hours per week.

I pay £14/hr.

I’m not “ashamed of myself” as I don’t set her fee, she does. Same with any service.

my cleaner charged £18 an hour with supplying products, £15 an hour without. In the south east. She was my friend, but I paid her the usual rate as didn’t want mates rates as she was setting up a new business and I wanted her to earn enough to live off. Sadly she died 6 months ago. I don’t want another cleaner as would just feel odd so I’m back to doing it myself.

To come out with miniimum wage as a self employed cleaner the charge needs to be approx 1.5 times minimum wage.

If employed as a coeaner yhd employer covers insurance, equipment, petrol and vehicle costs, sick pay, holiday paypension, employer No contributions.

Self employed - that all had the Hd covered.

Anything less to an £18/hour and cleaners are earning less than minimum wage, which is shameful.

Thise of you paying under £18/hour should be ashamed of yourselves - your cleaners are earning less than minimum wage

My cleaner is £20 an hour, and does 4 hours fortnightly. Even though I can afford for her to come each week, I think £160 per month is quite enough for me to spend on cleaning the house. I have a 1930’s semi-detached home with 3 bedrooms, and seeing as we’re out for the majority of each day, we’re able to keep the house looking reasonable in between.

London area, £17-18 per hour, for 5-6 hours a week, paid direct to cleaner. It’s gone up a lot over the past few years, but that seems right considering cost of living etc.

OP, you should be able to afford a couple of hours every week, which might work better than twice a month. My cleaner doesn’t like bi weekly jobs as it makes it harder to “fill” her hours - she would rather have a smaller job the same hours every week so she can book other regular work around them. You might find the same goes for you?

I use an app and pay £40 for 2 hours.

I think you're getting ripped off and also over thinking it.

£18ph for 2 cleaners is not £36ph. It's getting 2 hours worth of cleaning done for £36. Yes the elapsed time is only 1 hour but you are getting 2 hours worth of graft with less inconvenience.

Why not just take this option? Book them for 2 or 3 hours (combined) per fortnight, paying them £36 - £54 per clean.

They are but they shouldn’t be expected to be paid the same rate as a junior dr for example which is where it’s getting to with some of the demands. You keep saying ‘clean your own house’ some of us choose to outsource for a better quality of life and are happy to pay for it as long as it’s reasonable. If it’s not reasonable you move on to the next person willing to do the job.

I agree. It must be the dreariest of jobs. They should be paid a half decent wage.

14/15 is normal rate and I get a thorough job done. There are loads that will come and do the bare minimum but they will just not get asked to come back.

Why should cleaners not charge a decent amount? Are they not allowed to have a decent standard of living in a "low skilled job"? It is nothing to do with skill when it comes to private house cleans. It is about you not being arsed to clean your own house yourself...
If you don't like it, clean your own house.

There’s usually a discussion that takes place between those two events and the market dictates the rate.

We pay £60 pw and that’s for about 3 hours.

@NewDayNewColouri didn't moan...i literally just described the stuff she does. It's fine...which is why we use her 🙄. The more deep clean stuff I just do myself. She helps me stay on top of the basics.

As I said I think it's ridiculous how much a lot of cleaners charge these days. It's not easy work and it's physically tiring I'm sure but it's very low skilled...which is why I compared it to a nanny (or carer perhaps) who does a much more skilled job for less pay per hour. Its not like for like perhaps but it's like for like for the person buying the service.