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Is this acceptable in the workplace?

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Middleware · 06/10/2025 11:33

In a group Teams chat someone has posted asking for some work to be done. Some one (male) has responded that ‘the queue for that is longer than the one for Bonnie Blue’.

Another woman on the chat has pulled him up for this saying it’s an unacceptable comment.

Is this acceptable? My gut is telling me this is not reasonable but I would like to formalize in my head why it isn’t. Misogynistic? Inappropriate reference to porn on a work chat?

Fwiw the bloke is a bit of a twit and the woman is highly respected but known for being a bit prickly

YABU = this is acceptable
YANBU = this is unacceptable

OP posts:
Mrsfeckwittery · 06/10/2025 14:34

PotassiumPermanganate · 06/10/2025 12:21

He sounds a complete knob. You're right to complain. And those other men who say in private that they're shocked, they should call him out publicly to support you.

Yup! The men should be man enough to call it out if he was stupid enough to say it in the first place

lessglittermoremud · 06/10/2025 14:32

You’d have to be living in a cave not to know who she is or the kind of industry she is in, because her antics are well publicised over mainstream media (obviously not the actual antics themselves!)
It’s a revolting comment and has no place being made in a work conversation, to follow it up with a poo 💩 emoji as well. Let’s hope this chap is single…..

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 14:31

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2025 14:30

I've never heard of Bonnie Blue, presume she is a cartoon character, so have no idea if the remark was unacceptable or not.

There’s a thing called Google…..

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2025 14:30

I've never heard of Bonnie Blue, presume she is a cartoon character, so have no idea if the remark was unacceptable or not.

Toofficeornot · 06/10/2025 14:29

It is totally unprofessional.
I have worked in companies 20 years ago where this kind of banter was rife, I don't personally find it offensive either on a base level, like between friends I wouldnt bat an eyelid, well maybe I would roll my eyes or think its a grim analogy.
But today, in todays workplace and on teams, not even in a break room among work friends, this is completely unprofessional.
It sounds like he is trying to make a point and is of the I can say what I like and how I like because we live in a democracy line of thinking.
Hes an arse and needs to drag himself into 2025.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 14:29

It's unprofessional to even admit you know who Bonnie Blue is!

There are multiple threads on MN about her, various news articles and I think Stacey Dooley did a show with her (but that might have been the other girl

Knowing her name doesn't = watching porn

Thebigonesgetaway · 06/10/2025 14:27

The whole workplace dynamic is odd. Firstly he says that, then he sends you a shit emoji, and then three men randomly and proactively told you they also didn’t like it, you sure you didn’t miss something out and you were canvassing opinion?

id let it go now, you’ve said your piece, but i feel the whole dynamic is really unprofessional.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 06/10/2025 14:25

PotassiumPermanganate · 06/10/2025 13:14

As usual, the woman who finds herself in this situation caused by a man is the one who feels bad about her response. There's a bloke at my work who is using the company private messaging to attempt to flirt with me, is always looking at my linked in page, has requested to follow me on Instagram, and blatantly asked if I'm married the other day, as if it's any of his business, and I am batting it all off politely/ignoring it. But I still have to work with him, so am constantly going over it in my mind do I report this? Do I speak to him directly? Do I totally ignore his messages, ignore him when I see him in the kitchen, and block him on Instagram and look like a snarky knob??? I understand your problem OP, which way do you go? Do we as women have to just put up with it and keep quiet because it's just banter? Or do we call it out and look like a moany woman who can't take a joke/misguided compliment? It's infuriating.

It's a shame you feel uncomfortable, of course you shouldn't feel like that at work. Have you expressly told him you're not interested though? A lot of people, particularly those who are ND might not get the message from a polite brush off and are more literal. You accepted his follow request, you're being polite from your own description. Why is just telling him you're not interested not an option listed?
It feels a bit like we're demonising attraction.

deadpan · 06/10/2025 14:24

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:00

Ok full disclosure here. It was me who called him out in it. In public, on the chat.

I don’t know if I should have approached it privately.

He has responded to my comment with a Poo emoji and is now on leave for a couple of weeks so I can’t just speak to him.

Reading this back it all sounds so ridiculous.

But I have of late been made to feel that I am ‘difficult’ at work since a takeover and a major restructure. The man in question has caused me problems by damaging my reputation with his senior management.

3 of the other men on the chat have PM’d me to make it clear they are shocked by his comment.

I am unsure whether to take it further, or whether this will just provide proof that I am a troublemaker.

I wouldn't take it further, he'll.orobably speak to colleagues and if they've said to you that they didn't think it was appropriate they'll say it to him too.
Wait for the next time, if there is one, then take it further if you feel you need to.

Neemie · 06/10/2025 14:23

The initial comment wouldn’t bother me but the poo emoji would because it is rude. I don’t care that much if people are a bit unprofessional but I do care if they are rude to me.

Waterbaby41 · 06/10/2025 14:23

What a fuss about nothing.

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 14:21

ReplacementBusService · 06/10/2025 14:20

Bollocks to that. It is real misogyny and you're right to call it out. You can guarantee there were some less prickly middle aged women in your chat who wanted to but are conditioned to being "nice".

Again why is it misogny?

Viviennemary · 06/10/2025 14:21

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:00

Ok full disclosure here. It was me who called him out in it. In public, on the chat.

I don’t know if I should have approached it privately.

He has responded to my comment with a Poo emoji and is now on leave for a couple of weeks so I can’t just speak to him.

Reading this back it all sounds so ridiculous.

But I have of late been made to feel that I am ‘difficult’ at work since a takeover and a major restructure. The man in question has caused me problems by damaging my reputation with his senior management.

3 of the other men on the chat have PM’d me to make it clear they are shocked by his comment.

I am unsure whether to take it further, or whether this will just provide proof that I am a troublemaker.

It is ridiculous. It's a silly fuss about nothing. Just ignore it.

Greenwitchart · 06/10/2025 14:20

Well done for calling him out.

His comment was totally inappropriate and so was the poo emoji...

ReplacementBusService · 06/10/2025 14:20

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:29

It’s people like you who give women a bad name and mean that real sexism and misogyny is easily dismissed.

this is my concern. I have fought many battles in the past for equal pay, part time rights etc. I don’t know if this is a fight I want to engage in.

Probably best left alone having expressed my disapproval.

Bollocks to that. It is real misogyny and you're right to call it out. You can guarantee there were some less prickly middle aged women in your chat who wanted to but are conditioned to being "nice".

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/10/2025 14:20

Fifthtimelucky · 06/10/2025 14:17

This wouldn’t have bothered me either, given the prominence given to Bonnie Blue’s behaviour in the mainstream media. As @Wordsmitherysays, there was a long queue for her, so it was probably a fairly apt comparison, if not a very tasteful one.

It’s certainly not something I would have said myself, but I don’t see it as either unprofessional or misogynistic.

I don’t really understand emojis and people seem to use them to mean different things. I have no idea whether the poo emoji means “oh shit. I shouldn’t have said that” or “you’re a shit for calling me out” or “oh dear, I’m in the shit now”. I’d have thought that it could mean any of those things and only the second one would bother me.

It’s a workplace. He should have apologised and been accountable, being a good model to junior staff. Not used a silly pic.

Fifthtimelucky · 06/10/2025 14:17

This wouldn’t have bothered me either, given the prominence given to Bonnie Blue’s behaviour in the mainstream media. As @Wordsmitherysays, there was a long queue for her, so it was probably a fairly apt comparison, if not a very tasteful one.

It’s certainly not something I would have said myself, but I don’t see it as either unprofessional or misogynistic.

I don’t really understand emojis and people seem to use them to mean different things. I have no idea whether the poo emoji means “oh shit. I shouldn’t have said that” or “you’re a shit for calling me out” or “oh dear, I’m in the shit now”. I’d have thought that it could mean any of those things and only the second one would bother me.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 06/10/2025 14:17

I'd be more pissed off at the shit emoji to be honest, I'm not sure referencing queues for a porn star frequently in mainstream news, topic of conversation on chat shows and the subject of a documentary is misogynistic/sexist - surely it's just a topical joke and whether it's in the wrong forum wholly depends on the workplace or team? Is it generally a workplace that's jokey, and others make similar comments and get away with them but he doesn't because you don't like him? Are you superior to him or on the same level?

I have a colleague that would probably describe herself similarly to you, problem being she's nothing but a bully who has actually raised her voice to shout at several colleagues either below, on the same level or superior to her. I can see there being a real chance she loses her job in the next couple of years if it continues. Be careful this isn't your reality too.

BleuBella · 06/10/2025 14:17

PotassiumPermanganate · 06/10/2025 12:21

He sounds a complete knob. You're right to complain. And those other men who say in private that they're shocked, they should call him out publicly to support you.

All those men did was covered their backs .

CausalInference · 06/10/2025 14:16

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:00

Ok full disclosure here. It was me who called him out in it. In public, on the chat.

I don’t know if I should have approached it privately.

He has responded to my comment with a Poo emoji and is now on leave for a couple of weeks so I can’t just speak to him.

Reading this back it all sounds so ridiculous.

But I have of late been made to feel that I am ‘difficult’ at work since a takeover and a major restructure. The man in question has caused me problems by damaging my reputation with his senior management.

3 of the other men on the chat have PM’d me to make it clear they are shocked by his comment.

I am unsure whether to take it further, or whether this will just provide proof that I am a troublemaker.

You just said you had to Google who she is, so you didn't actually get what he meant, it went right over your head. Did you use your work laptop to Google her 🤣 this might come back to bite you...!

Personally I wouldn't get worked up about it, I'd have probably laughed and thought well I wouldn't have written that in the work chat, but then again I'm not out to get my colleagues, you clearly are. If it was a remark directed at you then fair enough, but it wasn't.

theresapossuminthekitchen · 06/10/2025 14:14

Arutha · 06/10/2025 14:09

As a bloke I think what your colleague is doing is completely wrong, and it's disgusting that women have to put up with his sort of thing.
I also think that the BB comment is hilarious, and I can't see how the two are remotely related?
To my mind the BB comment isn't about sex in itself, it's a reference to a very long queue.

A very long queue…to have sex with the same woman as 100 other men. Would it be work-appropriate to say ‘The queue for that is longer than the queue at a brothel!’ or ‘The queue for that is longer than the queue to shag [insert celebrity name]!’ I’d say it wouldn’t be, and therefore this is the same just more subtly coded.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 14:10

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 13:38

Nice hand waving

Which is the OP?

The prostitute being abused?

Or abuser engaged in the abuse of the prostitute?

FFS he didn't call OP Bonnie Blue

And calling Bonnie Blue an abuse victim is ... a choice

Arutha · 06/10/2025 14:09

PotassiumPermanganate · 06/10/2025 13:14

As usual, the woman who finds herself in this situation caused by a man is the one who feels bad about her response. There's a bloke at my work who is using the company private messaging to attempt to flirt with me, is always looking at my linked in page, has requested to follow me on Instagram, and blatantly asked if I'm married the other day, as if it's any of his business, and I am batting it all off politely/ignoring it. But I still have to work with him, so am constantly going over it in my mind do I report this? Do I speak to him directly? Do I totally ignore his messages, ignore him when I see him in the kitchen, and block him on Instagram and look like a snarky knob??? I understand your problem OP, which way do you go? Do we as women have to just put up with it and keep quiet because it's just banter? Or do we call it out and look like a moany woman who can't take a joke/misguided compliment? It's infuriating.

As a bloke I think what your colleague is doing is completely wrong, and it's disgusting that women have to put up with his sort of thing.
I also think that the BB comment is hilarious, and I can't see how the two are remotely related?
To my mind the BB comment isn't about sex in itself, it's a reference to a very long queue.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/10/2025 14:08

BeLilacSloth · 06/10/2025 13:54

He was just joking, stop being so uptight, hardly a sackable offence

It’s the context too though - and the poo emoji. Totally disrespectful and impacts more than that one moment.

PrissyGalore · 06/10/2025 14:08

Yes it’s a knobbish comment but one that I’d find it quite straightforward to call it out and tell him to save those jokes for any likeminded friends not in the workplace. I wouldn’t complain to the company though-not unless it was repeated and/or personal. I’d save that for something serious. I think your instincts are right.