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Is this acceptable in the workplace?

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Middleware · 06/10/2025 11:33

In a group Teams chat someone has posted asking for some work to be done. Some one (male) has responded that ‘the queue for that is longer than the one for Bonnie Blue’.

Another woman on the chat has pulled him up for this saying it’s an unacceptable comment.

Is this acceptable? My gut is telling me this is not reasonable but I would like to formalize in my head why it isn’t. Misogynistic? Inappropriate reference to porn on a work chat?

Fwiw the bloke is a bit of a twit and the woman is highly respected but known for being a bit prickly

YABU = this is acceptable
YANBU = this is unacceptable

OP posts:
Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 15:28

JustTryingToBeMe · 06/10/2025 15:24

That IS real sexism and misogyny. How can you (and the rest of the 15%) not see that this at best, is the thin end of the wedge and at worst is him being on his “best behaviour” so goodness knows what he’s like inside the workplace.
He needs calling out on this. Don’t you have safeguarding training in your workplace? I mine, that would be a sample of completely unacceptable behaviour.
Thise of you who think this is okay; how would you feel if your sons and partners said that to you? In my opinion, if you’d laugh it off, you have a problem with self-esteem.

in what way is saying that a long queue is like a long queue sexual and misogny?

I genuinely want to know as I just can’t see it.

While it wouldn’t bother me I can see how people might think it’s inappropriate to make a reference to something sexual in the work place but no one has explained in what way this comment was discriminatory to women or hateful to them.

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 15:25

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 13:50

Are you quite well?

Regardless of whether you think the comment was inappropriate, just because he made the comment in a general forum does not mean he was comparing the OP to a prostitute or her clients and the OP did not suggest as such.

Why opt for the personal attack?

Why not just answer the question?

Which role he assigned the OP in his simile when asked for the time line for the deliverable?

It’s people like you who give women a bad name and mean that real sexism and misogyny is easily dismissed.

This ^ was you dismissing the comment as within the bounds of professional conduct not sexist nor misogyny.

So which role is the OP assigned in his simile?

The prostitute being abused?

Or abuser engaged in the abuse of the prostitute?

JustTryingToBeMe · 06/10/2025 15:24

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 12:19

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest - it’s a simile related to a very well known news story (I can’t fathom how you’ve never heard of her…) which was all over mainstream media.
It’s people like you who give women a bad name and mean that real sexism and misogyny is easily dismissed.

He sounds like a prick generally though with his response.

That IS real sexism and misogyny. How can you (and the rest of the 15%) not see that this at best, is the thin end of the wedge and at worst is him being on his “best behaviour” so goodness knows what he’s like inside the workplace.
He needs calling out on this. Don’t you have safeguarding training in your workplace? I mine, that would be a sample of completely unacceptable behaviour.
Thise of you who think this is okay; how would you feel if your sons and partners said that to you? In my opinion, if you’d laugh it off, you have a problem with self-esteem.

hydriotaphia · 06/10/2025 15:23

Well done on calling him out. What an idiot. Talking about sex at work is always inappropriate and will make many feel uncomfortable.

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2025 15:20

youalright · 06/10/2025 14:38

She is a porn star who slept with over 1000 men in one day

Oh, I did read about her - on Mumsnet! I didn't remember her name.

My goodness, it definitely was an inappropriate comment but the poo emoji takes the biscuit imo.

Unpleasant, unprofessional and immature.

I wouldn't want him sacked but he should be reprimanded. The guy needs to grow up.

MrsMcGarry · 06/10/2025 15:16

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 12:39

Thank you for your considered response which comes through in all of your posts (with the fact that it made you uncomfortable and you are trying to figure out whether you are unreasonable). I’m assuming you are not a ‘modern feminist’ for whom sex work is work so it isn’t in anyway misogynistic to mention a woman who is following her chosen career…..
Also I would just do an eye roll at fairly harmless comments like this and keep your powder dry for the important stuff. This guy does seem like the sort to suggest that an uptight women ‘needs a good shag’ for example.

I completely disagree with this.

It's the broken window theory. Not calling out comments like this is how we normalise misogyny - and we absolutely should not be normalising it.

I'm not saying this is sackable behaviour, but it is something that he should be pulled up on - and preferably by a man so you aren't seen as the "hysterical woman who can't take a joke"

CautiousLurker01 · 06/10/2025 15:15

You called him out on it. He knows he overstepped. No need to take it further unless he makes further (or has a history of making) unprofessional comments.

OodlesTheTalkingPoodle · 06/10/2025 15:14

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 12:19

Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest - it’s a simile related to a very well known news story (I can’t fathom how you’ve never heard of her…) which was all over mainstream media.
It’s people like you who give women a bad name and mean that real sexism and misogyny is easily dismissed.

He sounds like a prick generally though with his response.

I agree. It was just a dumb comment.

canchewcashew · 06/10/2025 15:12

Referring to porn is not appropriate for work, but someone who thinks using the poo emoji at work is appropriate is probably too immature to ever admit that.

DwarfPalmetto · 06/10/2025 15:00

OK workplace cultures can differ, but in the places I have worked any sex reference on a work chat would be considered inappropriate and unprofessional. I certainly don't want to see or hear that kind of thing at work.

Middleware · 06/10/2025 15:00

It’s interesting that many have assumed he’s senior to me. We have different reporting structures and line management so I don’t know who is considered the most ‘senior’.

I am paid about double what he is FWIW.

OP posts:
Epidote · 06/10/2025 14:57

Good luck with that! Will have the same jocking effect in friendly work environment and you don't have to post specifics about some random porn stuff.
He is the one wrong.

hohummm1 · 06/10/2025 14:56

I'm slightly confused on the timeline.

He said the thing about Bonnie Blue.
You didn't know who that was.
Did a colleague then say it was inappropriate? Or are you referring to yourself after you looked it up?
You called him out publicly
He sent you a poo emoji (privately or to the whole chat?)
Others have messaged you privately to say they agree with you, but haven't joined you in calling him out publicly?
He's now on annual leave

Yes, it was inappropriate, unprofessional. But it also sounds like you might have gone to lengths to catch him out. Is there more history there?

Notthatgameagain · 06/10/2025 14:55

mumofoneAloneandwell · 06/10/2025 12:17

I am obsessed with your description of yourself being 'well respected but known for being a bit prickly' 😄😄😄

Yes me too !! 😂😂😂

Fushoutofwata · 06/10/2025 14:45

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:00

Ok full disclosure here. It was me who called him out in it. In public, on the chat.

I don’t know if I should have approached it privately.

He has responded to my comment with a Poo emoji and is now on leave for a couple of weeks so I can’t just speak to him.

Reading this back it all sounds so ridiculous.

But I have of late been made to feel that I am ‘difficult’ at work since a takeover and a major restructure. The man in question has caused me problems by damaging my reputation with his senior management.

3 of the other men on the chat have PM’d me to make it clear they are shocked by his comment.

I am unsure whether to take it further, or whether this will just provide proof that I am a troublemaker.

In view of this I would screenshot it and raise it with my line manager -as example of as a issues

  1. inappropriate unprofessional sexual reference
  2. immature unprofessional response to feedback
  3. unable to address as on leave
  4. if he was asked for timeline about work - difficult to work with as didn’t give you one and went off
I would also keep screenshots of messages of support to say you weren’t the only one who thought so. But feel it better to come from a senior not peer given his response and as clearly others did not feel able to speak up.
Oaktreet · 06/10/2025 14:43

This is very obviously inappropriate

SafeSex · 06/10/2025 14:43

DiscoBob · 06/10/2025 11:37

I don't think talking about a prostitute for no relevant reason in the workplace is acceptable, no. He was clearly trying to be funny but obviously must be a perv/misogynist if he's got that kind of imagery floating around the top of his mind, seemingly at all times.

It's unprofessional to even admit you know who Bonnie Blue is!

It's unprofessional to even admit you know who Bonnie Blue is!

I think that's a bit ridiculous. There's all sorts of things I wouldn't bring up at work, but I wouldn't feign wide-eyed innocence if they were referred to.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 14:41

If the job that needed doing was photographing the company's annual sexy calendar, fake tanning Sydney Sweeney's legs or similar then the comment would be crass and inappropriate because it was the suggestion people would be desperate to do something under the guise of work

If the job is just an easy job which everyone wants to do... you can understand it more

Soupdragon41 · 06/10/2025 14:39

Middleware · 06/10/2025 11:41

I had to google it! I didn’t know what the comment referred to until my colleague raised it

Why lie to us?

LittleBitofBread · 06/10/2025 14:38

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 06/10/2025 14:20

It’s a workplace. He should have apologised and been accountable, being a good model to junior staff. Not used a silly pic.

I agree with this. This response is more problematic for me than the original comment, especially given his relative seniority.

youalright · 06/10/2025 14:38

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2025 14:36

I honestly haven't heard of her, I don't want to google in case it's something objectionable and will be in my search history. I gather from the comments she is a porn actress or something similar in which case it was an unacceptable comment.

She is a porn star who slept with over 1000 men in one day

Lastgig · 06/10/2025 14:37

OP I'm C-Suite and I can quarantee that with every takeover I get a dickwad trying to undermine me.
I do the M & A for my female founders and along comes M'laddo to show me how it's really done.
One told me about his Victoria's secret orgy. I licked my lips and said he must be gifted! He was out of my office in the speed of light.

Your colleague is an arse and if he repeats it I'd have a tendency to say you wouldn't know, personally you don't pay for sex!
I've been called prickly, ball breaker, a battleship. I actually don't care. I'm 59 so retiring shortly but boy these guys are such knobends. Their mothers must be so proud.

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2025 14:36

lessglittermoremud · 06/10/2025 14:32

You’d have to be living in a cave not to know who she is or the kind of industry she is in, because her antics are well publicised over mainstream media (obviously not the actual antics themselves!)
It’s a revolting comment and has no place being made in a work conversation, to follow it up with a poo 💩 emoji as well. Let’s hope this chap is single…..

I honestly haven't heard of her, I don't want to google in case it's something objectionable and will be in my search history. I gather from the comments she is a porn actress or something similar in which case it was an unacceptable comment.

youalright · 06/10/2025 14:35

People are so uptight it was a joke. Laugh don't laugh whatever but does it really need this much thought and energy put into it

arcticpandas · 06/10/2025 14:35

FastFood · 06/10/2025 13:17

I think I'm actually more shocked by the poo emoji than by the comment itself (that I also find inappropriate)

Good on you for standing up OP.

Me too! Let's say it was an appropriate joke from a decent bloke. Having understood that what he said was offensive to someone (even if he's too dim to understand why) a normal person would have excused himself. Sending the poo emoji is not only very immature but also shows a total lack of respect for the OP. This would make me take things to HR @Middleware .