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Is this acceptable in the workplace?

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Middleware · 06/10/2025 11:33

In a group Teams chat someone has posted asking for some work to be done. Some one (male) has responded that ‘the queue for that is longer than the one for Bonnie Blue’.

Another woman on the chat has pulled him up for this saying it’s an unacceptable comment.

Is this acceptable? My gut is telling me this is not reasonable but I would like to formalize in my head why it isn’t. Misogynistic? Inappropriate reference to porn on a work chat?

Fwiw the bloke is a bit of a twit and the woman is highly respected but known for being a bit prickly

YABU = this is acceptable
YANBU = this is unacceptable

OP posts:
GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 07/10/2025 06:31

You were absolutely right, but those men who PMed should have supported you in the chat. You have to ask yourself why they didn’t.

LittleBearPad · 06/10/2025 22:53

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 18:38

First point isn’t misogyny at all and ‘because a few women may find it unacceptable or uncomfortable’ also doesn’t mean it’s misogyny.

But I agree that in some workplaces any sort of humour which might cause the slightest bit of offence isn’t acceptable. Fortunately for me I’ve never worked anywhere like that.

I’m not sure your perspective is particularly up to date.

PotassiumPermanganate · 06/10/2025 20:30

ReplacementBusService · 06/10/2025 18:10

It is unnecessary to bring forth the spectacle of queueing to fuck a porn star in relation to anything work wise and very likely to make women in the group feel uncomfortable, which should be something to think twice about in a professional environment. Ergo displays ingrained prejudice against women. So, misogynistic. It's also dismissive to the person asking for the work to be done. If it'd be ok in your workplace good on you.

I think this is exactly right. There are so many metaphors he could have used, but he chooses one that he knows will make a female colleague uncomfortable, entirely intentionally. I could have given him the benefit of the doubt if it hadn't been for the poo emoji at the end of it all. Puerile man. How attractive, eh.

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 18:38

ReplacementBusService · 06/10/2025 18:10

It is unnecessary to bring forth the spectacle of queueing to fuck a porn star in relation to anything work wise and very likely to make women in the group feel uncomfortable, which should be something to think twice about in a professional environment. Ergo displays ingrained prejudice against women. So, misogynistic. It's also dismissive to the person asking for the work to be done. If it'd be ok in your workplace good on you.

First point isn’t misogyny at all and ‘because a few women may find it unacceptable or uncomfortable’ also doesn’t mean it’s misogyny.

But I agree that in some workplaces any sort of humour which might cause the slightest bit of offence isn’t acceptable. Fortunately for me I’ve never worked anywhere like that.

ReplacementBusService · 06/10/2025 18:10

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 14:21

Again why is it misogny?

It is unnecessary to bring forth the spectacle of queueing to fuck a porn star in relation to anything work wise and very likely to make women in the group feel uncomfortable, which should be something to think twice about in a professional environment. Ergo displays ingrained prejudice against women. So, misogynistic. It's also dismissive to the person asking for the work to be done. If it'd be ok in your workplace good on you.

Livpool · 06/10/2025 17:50

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 13:19

Its about a prostitution so which is the OP?

The prostitute being abused?

Or abuser engaged in the rape of the prostitute?

Bonnie Blue isn’t being raped by these men. The whole thing is utterly grim BUT this comment is offensive to actual rape victims, included women trafficked and prostituted.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 17:24

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 17:02

And these line of 1000 men were in a line to do what?

Irrelevant
The comment was about the fact there was a big queue of eager people

No one was being called a prostitute

IchiNiSanShiGo · 06/10/2025 17:10

Op, I don’t know if you’re able to screen shot his messages, but if so, I’d do that then send them to his line manager saying something like “could you remind X that we expect a certain level of professionalism from all our staff, and this falls way below that standard”, and maybe add a link to your sexual harrassment policy / training material.

saveforthat · 06/10/2025 17:03

I had to Google the name but now I know. Yes it's unprofessional. Up to you if you take it further, I wouldn't unless he did something similar again.

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 17:02

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 16:15

He didn't assign OP ANY role as a prostitute ffs

He equated the eagerness for people to di a certain job with the line of 1000 men

And these line of 1000 men were in a line to do what?

Sparticle · 06/10/2025 17:00

Grim. I work in a professional company and this would be seen as highly inappropriate. In your place, I’d report it to HR but every firm is different and clearly there are some on here for whom this sort of ‘banter’ (hate that word) is normal in their workplace.

LittleBearPad · 06/10/2025 17:00

How many other people have to put up with his banter because no one wants to ‘run to HR’?

LittleBearPad · 06/10/2025 16:59

Thebigonesgetaway · 06/10/2025 16:55

Don’t be that person, you’ve said your piece if there is more of it escalate but running to hr is just embarrassing,

The man is a creep. When does his behaviour have consequences?

Frequentlyincorrectbut · 06/10/2025 16:57

I think the fact that you called him out, he posted a poo making himself look even more of a tit, and that your colleagues are backing you are enough. I wouldn't personally be interested in creating a complaint over this right now, but I would take a screen shot and file it away in case you need it in the future (e.g. to show sexism or harassment in your workplace). Just my opinion.

Thebigonesgetaway · 06/10/2025 16:55

LittleBearPad · 06/10/2025 16:53

Completely inappropriate. I’d screenshot it and send it to HR.

Don’t be that person, you’ve said your piece if there is more of it escalate but running to hr is just embarrassing,

LittleBearPad · 06/10/2025 16:53

Completely inappropriate. I’d screenshot it and send it to HR.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 06/10/2025 16:43

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 13:23

I get what you are saying but I don’t see why anyone would feel
uncomfortable just at the mention of a prostitute when it’s not directed at anyone.

It is directed at two groups

  1. the person who asked for the work to be done - is effectively compared to someone who queues up for a sex worker. Designed to make them look stupid in front of their collegues, by comparing a reasonable question to a ridiculous situation that "everyone" understands. And the commentator wanted to make himself look worldly wise and knowing.

and
2) The person/or whole team who were asked to do the work - actually two insults here... the person/team and the queue of people for their workload, ridiculed and compared to a famous sex worker and their clients and a commentary on teans lack of efficiency in dealing with their work load.

I can't see why there would be such an outcry in saying that the comment was inappropriate in the work place. It clearly is.

Responding to a colleagues remark about this "Bantz" with a poo emoji just illustrates the unprofessional and derogatory mind set of the Commentator.

If he had any brains, he could have just texted Sorry, no offence intended it was just a joke but I understand that you thought it was in appropriate and will be more careful in future.

Would that really have killed this geezer? Instead he's leaving a written trail of dodgy comments, so he's a dumbass as well.

Kimura · 06/10/2025 16:40

Middleware · 06/10/2025 12:00

Ok full disclosure here. It was me who called him out in it. In public, on the chat.

I don’t know if I should have approached it privately.

He has responded to my comment with a Poo emoji and is now on leave for a couple of weeks so I can’t just speak to him.

Reading this back it all sounds so ridiculous.

But I have of late been made to feel that I am ‘difficult’ at work since a takeover and a major restructure. The man in question has caused me problems by damaging my reputation with his senior management.

3 of the other men on the chat have PM’d me to make it clear they are shocked by his comment.

I am unsure whether to take it further, or whether this will just provide proof that I am a troublemaker.

It's a slightly crass throw-away comment, about someone who is - let's face it - part of pop culture right now while she's having her five minutes of fame. She has documentaries on mainstream TV, she's all over social media, constantly in the news. It's hardly some seedy reference that only perverts would get.

It might be ill advised in some working environments but yes, if you run off to get him in trouble you will only reinforce your reputation.

allmymonkeys · 06/10/2025 16:39

Sorry - who is Bonnie Blue?

Office twit in any case would be wiser to use references that are likely to chime with more than (guess) half his target audience.

BauhausOfEliott · 06/10/2025 16:39

So which role is the OP assigned in his simile?
The prostitute being abused?

Neither.

TeenLifeMum · 06/10/2025 16:39

I don’t think it’s misogynistic but interesting that’s his brain’s go-to reference and says a lot about him. It’s fairly mainstream media but I’d be asking for teams to be kept as a professional channel. Definitely not appropriate - from fellow prickly woman with no tolerance of bs from either of the sexes.

TheDayWeGotMinnie · 06/10/2025 16:38

HR for me this. It's appalling

AnSolas · 06/10/2025 16:37

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 15:30

It’s not a personal attack, I’m genuinely confused about your mental health and cognitive ability.

Funny that a personal attack and slurs are all you have got to post when asked a simple question about the context he used.

You claimed you would have no problem with his conduct.

Why are you now so bashful when asked about the two roles he opted to use?

Which role he assigned the OP in his simile when asked for the time line for the deliverable?

It’s people like you who give women a bad name and mean that real sexism and misogyny is easily dismissed.

This ^ was you dismissing the comment as within the bounds of professional conduct not sexist nor misogyny.

So which role is the OP assigned in his simile?
The prostitute being abused?

Or abuser engaged in the abuse of the prostitute?

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 06/10/2025 16:36

Gymrabbit · 06/10/2025 15:58

I’m still waiting for someone to explain why a reference to a prostitute is sexist/misogynistic rather than just inappropriate for the workplace.
Maybe you can oblige me rather than throwing insults at a woman just because she doesn’t agree with you.

I hate the way that using terms like "handmaiden" to insult women who don't agree with you is ok but "Karen" isn't...

Helen1625 · 06/10/2025 16:31

Personally, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid at this comment.

I do think generally we've got a little too sensitive and need to get back to just getting on with our lives without worrying over daft little comments.