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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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Jumpers4goalposts · 09/10/2025 10:23

Plumedenom · 09/10/2025 08:02

Please do not tell me what to worry about. I am not worried about money. I worry about the fact that over the last twenty-five years, immigration has increased to historically high levels, exceeding emigration by more than 100,000 in every year between 1998 - 2020. If that contiinues, the native population of the UK will become a minority, and I do not think that is what British people want, nor do I think it will create a United Kingdom.

You mean the Celts? They already are a minority. Those are the native Brits as you put it everyone else is an immigrant or of immigrant descent. Or do you just mean that “White British people” will become a minority? Because surely that just demonstrates you as a racist!

awkwardasfuck · 09/10/2025 10:19

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 10:03

What’s the point of asking that? Throwing around numbers doesn’t answer anything I said. This is about how people feel shut out in their own country, not about a spreadsheet.

It does answer it. Please tell us where the danger of becoming a minority

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 10:16

awkwardasfuck · 09/10/2025 10:13

I haven't jumped on you i just asked you.

Very telling though. You must include people of all religions and races that were born here and whose families have lived here for generations then.

I’m not sure what’s supposed to be “very telling.” I wasn’t the one who even mentioned the word native. I only pointed out that people jump on it instead of talking about what it actually means. And yes, that obviously includes anyone born and raised here. The whole point is that belonging should come from a shared connection to the country, not someone’s background.

awkwardasfuck · 09/10/2025 10:13

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 09:59

People really need to stop jumping on anyone who uses the word “native.” The moment the word appears, half the room acts like it’s forbidden to talk about. That isn’t how adults discuss identity or history. When people say native, they mean people who were born here and whose families have lived here for generations. It’s about cultural roots and continuity, not about race.

The bigger issue is that some parts of the country feel less connected to that shared story than others. When communities stay apart for two or three generations, it shows that integration hasn’t worked as well as it should have and that’s not about blaming people; it’s about how schools, local councils and politicians have allowed groups to live separate lives instead of helping everyone feel part of one civic identity.

In most countries, whether it’s Nigeria, China or anywhere else, people talk openly about belonging and about keeping their national culture alive. Here we act as if raising the subject is off-limits. If we really want a united country, we have to be able to talk about shared values and what it means to belong here, without treating the discussion itself as suspect.

I haven't jumped on you i just asked you.

Very telling though. You must include people of all religions and races that were born here and whose families have lived here for generations then.

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 10:03

CurlewKate · 09/10/2025 09:48

What % of the population do you think is made up of immigrants?

What’s the point of asking that? Throwing around numbers doesn’t answer anything I said. This is about how people feel shut out in their own country, not about a spreadsheet.

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 09:59

awkwardasfuck · 09/10/2025 09:20

Define native

People really need to stop jumping on anyone who uses the word “native.” The moment the word appears, half the room acts like it’s forbidden to talk about. That isn’t how adults discuss identity or history. When people say native, they mean people who were born here and whose families have lived here for generations. It’s about cultural roots and continuity, not about race.

The bigger issue is that some parts of the country feel less connected to that shared story than others. When communities stay apart for two or three generations, it shows that integration hasn’t worked as well as it should have and that’s not about blaming people; it’s about how schools, local councils and politicians have allowed groups to live separate lives instead of helping everyone feel part of one civic identity.

In most countries, whether it’s Nigeria, China or anywhere else, people talk openly about belonging and about keeping their national culture alive. Here we act as if raising the subject is off-limits. If we really want a united country, we have to be able to talk about shared values and what it means to belong here, without treating the discussion itself as suspect.

CurlewKate · 09/10/2025 09:48

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 09:38

You’re reading a lot into a flag on someone’s shed. The Union Jack stands for everyone who lives here. “Unite the Kingdom” is about pulling people together, not splitting them apart. It’s odd that a flag meant to include everyone now gets treated as a threat.
People need to start using their heads. The reaction to anything that has a certain name attached to it is always the same. If the wrong person once said it, it must automatically be racist or evil. That’s lazy thinking. You judge an idea by what it means, not by who said it.
The real issue is the contempt shown for ordinary working-class people. The same people who talk about equality are the first to sneer at anyone with an accent who dares to be proud of their country. They act superior while mocking the people who actually keep the place running.
Most people don’t hate living in a mixed society. They just think the way multiculturalism was managed hasn’t worked out the way it was promised. They see division growing everywhere and they’re tired of being told to keep quiet about it.
Nobody ever asks why these flags are going up. Do people really think there’s some hidden far-right movement behind them, or are they a signal from ordinary people who feel shut out and ignored? It’s frustration. It’s people saying they still belong here, even if nobody in power seems to want to hear it.
Those flags aren’t about hate. They’re about being pushed to the edges in your own country and finding one small way to be seen again.
If we ever want to pull this place together, we need to start listening to the people who have been written off for too long.

What % of the population do you think is made up of immigrants?

EatingsCheating · 09/10/2025 09:38

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

You’re reading a lot into a flag on someone’s shed. The Union Jack stands for everyone who lives here. “Unite the Kingdom” is about pulling people together, not splitting them apart. It’s odd that a flag meant to include everyone now gets treated as a threat.
People need to start using their heads. The reaction to anything that has a certain name attached to it is always the same. If the wrong person once said it, it must automatically be racist or evil. That’s lazy thinking. You judge an idea by what it means, not by who said it.
The real issue is the contempt shown for ordinary working-class people. The same people who talk about equality are the first to sneer at anyone with an accent who dares to be proud of their country. They act superior while mocking the people who actually keep the place running.
Most people don’t hate living in a mixed society. They just think the way multiculturalism was managed hasn’t worked out the way it was promised. They see division growing everywhere and they’re tired of being told to keep quiet about it.
Nobody ever asks why these flags are going up. Do people really think there’s some hidden far-right movement behind them, or are they a signal from ordinary people who feel shut out and ignored? It’s frustration. It’s people saying they still belong here, even if nobody in power seems to want to hear it.
Those flags aren’t about hate. They’re about being pushed to the edges in your own country and finding one small way to be seen again.
If we ever want to pull this place together, we need to start listening to the people who have been written off for too long.

CurlewKate · 09/10/2025 09:31

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/10/2025 09:21

Agree. I’d say it was put up in response.

It’s like Alice in Wonderland. “Words mean what I want them to mean-neither more nor less”

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/10/2025 09:21

SheSmellsSeaShells · 05/10/2025 15:14

I would interpret Unite the Kingdom as anti racist and in opposition to the St George flag epidemic.

Agree. I’d say it was put up in response.

awkwardasfuck · 09/10/2025 09:20

Plumedenom · 09/10/2025 08:02

Please do not tell me what to worry about. I am not worried about money. I worry about the fact that over the last twenty-five years, immigration has increased to historically high levels, exceeding emigration by more than 100,000 in every year between 1998 - 2020. If that contiinues, the native population of the UK will become a minority, and I do not think that is what British people want, nor do I think it will create a United Kingdom.

Define native

CurlewKate · 09/10/2025 09:13

Plumedenom · 09/10/2025 08:23

I literally put it like that to include past immigrants. I see the threat is not only to people who are "100% anglosaxon" (a thing that barely exists), but everyone who is already rooted here, who have families here. It has already led to displacement of families. Look at the social fabric of a place like Dewsbury 25 years ago versus now. It used to be a poor, post-industrial town but with a thriving market and a close local community. That community has been displaced, god knows where. Now it is a boarded up ghetto. Same story in Batley. As of 2021, Dewsbury's ethnic makeup was 50.8% White, 44.4% Asian. That is not diversity. That is a country that is becoming an Asian spin off.
In 2021, 23% of the population of West Yorkshire now identifies as being from an ethnic minority. That number is going to continue to increase.
When is it ok to say stop? When Gujarati becomes an official second language of the country? When White British people are a minority? When the official religion becomes Muslim? Please explain when enough immigration is enough, I am genuinely curious.

The UK population is 6% Muslim, and, I think? 0.5% Gujurati speakers. Hardly a takeover….

Plumedenom · 09/10/2025 08:23

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2025 07:22

Define 'people who have their roots in the UK'. Do you mean all people who were born here or do you think that if their parents are immigrants, they don't have their roots in the UK and aren't really British?

My great grandparents came to the UK in the late 19th century fleeing the anti-Jewish pogroms in what is now Poland. Do I have my roots in the UK?

Often the people who make the most fuss about immigration live in areas with hardly any immigrants at all.

I don't hate immigrants. I hate violent and criminal behaviour, irrespective of whether the perpetrators 'have their roots in the UK' or are immigrants to this country. Tommy Robinson is a rabble-rousing violent thug with a criminal record.

I literally put it like that to include past immigrants. I see the threat is not only to people who are "100% anglosaxon" (a thing that barely exists), but everyone who is already rooted here, who have families here. It has already led to displacement of families. Look at the social fabric of a place like Dewsbury 25 years ago versus now. It used to be a poor, post-industrial town but with a thriving market and a close local community. That community has been displaced, god knows where. Now it is a boarded up ghetto. Same story in Batley. As of 2021, Dewsbury's ethnic makeup was 50.8% White, 44.4% Asian. That is not diversity. That is a country that is becoming an Asian spin off.
In 2021, 23% of the population of West Yorkshire now identifies as being from an ethnic minority. That number is going to continue to increase.
When is it ok to say stop? When Gujarati becomes an official second language of the country? When White British people are a minority? When the official religion becomes Muslim? Please explain when enough immigration is enough, I am genuinely curious.

Plumedenom · 09/10/2025 08:02

Please do not tell me what to worry about. I am not worried about money. I worry about the fact that over the last twenty-five years, immigration has increased to historically high levels, exceeding emigration by more than 100,000 in every year between 1998 - 2020. If that contiinues, the native population of the UK will become a minority, and I do not think that is what British people want, nor do I think it will create a United Kingdom.

Easterchicken · 09/10/2025 07:33

He's allowed his opinion same as you are allowed yours

While it's ghastly there is nothing you can do other than sulk (or wrap.it down in the dead of night)

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2025 07:22

Plumedenom · 08/10/2025 20:18

We can try and sugar coat it, but the bottom line is that the people who have their roots in the UK are sick to the back teeth of more and more immigration, whether it's legal or illegal. You can call it racism, or a phobia or whatever you want. They're sick of it. It's like the residents in Barcelona who are telling tourists to go home. The flags are a protest. To me the flags don't say racism, they are saying ENOUGH multiculturalism because we have lost our English/Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish identity. People who automatically call that racism are a certain brand of unquestioning left wing liberal that live in glass towers far away from where this is a problem.

Define 'people who have their roots in the UK'. Do you mean all people who were born here or do you think that if their parents are immigrants, they don't have their roots in the UK and aren't really British?

My great grandparents came to the UK in the late 19th century fleeing the anti-Jewish pogroms in what is now Poland. Do I have my roots in the UK?

Often the people who make the most fuss about immigration live in areas with hardly any immigrants at all.

I don't hate immigrants. I hate violent and criminal behaviour, irrespective of whether the perpetrators 'have their roots in the UK' or are immigrants to this country. Tommy Robinson is a rabble-rousing violent thug with a criminal record.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2025 07:12

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/10/2025 17:37

Not remotely naive; I just don't swallow the desired narrative the mainstream media wants me to.

Lol! The mainstream media, e.g. the BBC, Sky News, Channel 4 are all biased and can't be trusted but Tommy Robinson, Russell Brand, GB News and the Tate brothers are all speaking the truth!

AnaisVB · 09/10/2025 06:17

Plumedenom · 08/10/2025 20:18

We can try and sugar coat it, but the bottom line is that the people who have their roots in the UK are sick to the back teeth of more and more immigration, whether it's legal or illegal. You can call it racism, or a phobia or whatever you want. They're sick of it. It's like the residents in Barcelona who are telling tourists to go home. The flags are a protest. To me the flags don't say racism, they are saying ENOUGH multiculturalism because we have lost our English/Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish identity. People who automatically call that racism are a certain brand of unquestioning left wing liberal that live in glass towers far away from where this is a problem.

i 100% don’t agree with you . But at least you’re being honest .

Its sad that you feel that way, especially as the reason this country has so much multiculturalism is because we asked many of those nationalities to either A come and fight for us or B come and work for us .

Usernamenotav · 09/10/2025 06:13

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:25

Yes thanks, I was being an idiot.

Edited

You wasn't though, you can say 'therefore he is mixed raced'. It's just more context to the story. No idea why people are jumping on you for this. It's just another word for 'consequently' so fits fine in your sentence.

Usernamenotav · 09/10/2025 06:10

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 15:13

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race.

Why “therefore”? My husband is the son of an immigrant mother and he’s not mixed race

What? 'Therefore' doesn't mean that her husband HAS to be mixed raced because his mother is an immigrant. It means the same as consequently.

AnaisVB · 09/10/2025 05:44

Petitchat · 08/10/2025 22:12

Do dhange the record, dear.
It's getting boring now and no longer has any meaning or effect...

What’s your record though? All you’ve said it to comment one liners to other peoples quotes. You’ve shared no fact, opinion or anything to contribute to a discussion where someone feels intimated. Instead of slamming her why not try and sympathise. And if you love flying the flag so much and you’re so proud of being British why don’t you start by being kind and offering some wisdom or support like a true Brit?

Do you have any idea on the history of why there are so migrants of ‘different cultures here?

There really is little point talking to someone who just makes sarcastic one liners ‘weak argument’ cant see anything that is constructive or helpful.

AnaisVB · 09/10/2025 05:27

Petitchat · 08/10/2025 21:36

Yes, this...

I don’t think anyone has said it’s not nice to feel proud of where you are from. I fly the flag (St George) during the football and in those cases I’m proud of my country and team.

The flag ( and The Unite the Kingdom saying) in the case of the violent far right the NF, The BNP and now TR who is a pathological liar, hypocrite and repeat criminal, has been used in a different way

I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand . It’s not the flag, its the circumstance it’s used in and who is using it. The nazis used a flag as they were so proud of being German, I’m sure many people wouldn’t want to see Nazi flags; , even though those Germans were just ‘proud of their country’/

The OP asked what she should do, I can understand that she would feel intimated, to erect a giant flag in this current climate is sending a clear message .

A flag has lots of connotations and being so literal is either really naive or just argumentative.

CurlewKate · 09/10/2025 03:16

Petitchat · 08/10/2025 22:12

Do dhange the record, dear.
It's getting boring now and no longer has any meaning or effect...

Sometimes repetition is necessary when people find it hard to understand. It’s a bit like Duolingo.

Jumpers4goalposts · 08/10/2025 23:52

Plumedenom · 08/10/2025 20:18

We can try and sugar coat it, but the bottom line is that the people who have their roots in the UK are sick to the back teeth of more and more immigration, whether it's legal or illegal. You can call it racism, or a phobia or whatever you want. They're sick of it. It's like the residents in Barcelona who are telling tourists to go home. The flags are a protest. To me the flags don't say racism, they are saying ENOUGH multiculturalism because we have lost our English/Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish identity. People who automatically call that racism are a certain brand of unquestioning left wing liberal that live in glass towers far away from where this is a problem.

I have my roots in the UK 97% British according to my DNA and I’m not sick to the back teeth of immigration. So please don’t include me in your “all” comment. I’m not left wing either.

You should be more worried about the people who own the big boats (the super yachts) who are telling you to be worried about the people in the small boats. The reality of who have very little impact on your life. It’s the people in the big boats that are impacting the cost of living, impacting government policy, impacting governments spending, impacting inflation etc.,

xNotTodayHunx · 08/10/2025 23:07

There was never any flags where I live until one of the thunder cun7s from reform got in and now they're everywhere. Ironically it's a very much white place and I highly doubt many people here have ever even encountered an immigrant.

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