Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

People on MN argue that TR having his photo taken on that particular route, one of 675 in London, whilst a bus was passing, was just a "coincidence".

I'm just astonished that some people still believe that Tommy Robinson, who had a picture taken next to a number 88 bus (88 being a dog whistle for true fascists due to the number 88 being code for Heil Hitler), is a friend to Jews.

@galadriel there’s one in my local town no reported issues at all and a good friend of mine works for a local charity and quite a few of them volunteer to give back to the local community. She’s also been into the hotel to visit them she said they were all polite but she was shocked at how little they all had, the rooms have been stripped of everything but a bed or two in cases, they’re given microwave meals but they’re not given a microwave, there’s one TV for the whole place which was highlighted as an issue because they were using that to improve their English. So not all sites are the same. The process needs to be sped up those entitled to asylum granted it so they can get on with their lives and those that aren’t deported but as someone else mentioned and what people don’t want to hear is that the majority of them are entitled to stay.

There's one such hotel in Birmingham right next to one of the jobsites I go to. The residents and local shopkeepers (Indian) have been petitioning to have it moved. The main contractor has stopped sending female engineers to site as they were getting harassed and I don't think they could find a solution.

I've only seen young men there. They seem to sit on the steps all day smoking. I'm not sure if this is what other sites are like as it's the only one I've been around repeatedly.

@Grammarnut "From the point of view of people who find their local hotel has turned into an asylum dormitory I think the difference between asylum seekers and economic migrants is semantic."
"Semantic"? Jesus, so, not only did you decide to double-down on your ignorance about international and UK immigration law, but also to reveal your absolute lack of compassion for people whose lives have been destroyed in their homeland leaving them terrorised, terrified and in danger. OK then. 🙄

From the point of view of people who find their local hotel has turned into an asylum dormitory I think the difference between asylum seekers and economic migrants is semantic. And undoubtedly some migrants have found settling in a non-Islamic country hard. I mentioned Isaiah earlier, and his advice was good. If in a place you don't like much and would prefer not to be nevertheless get on with life and pray for the prosperity of the place you are in - i.e. join in with the host society. Much as I dislike Farage I am glad that the migrant who came over on a boat and threatened to kill him has been convicted - sadly his actions are not going to lessen the anxieties of those who are faced with large numbers of asylum seekers/economic migrants in their towns.

Couple of questions for clarification ….

1. what country did your mum / dad think they were immigrating to?
2. what is the relevance of your race? Or mix of race?
3. are things better in your mum / dads original country?

Crossing one of the busiest stretches of water in the world is a stupid way to enter the UK, but unfortunately asylum seekers have no choice because we have no legal and safe routes for them to use unless they're coming via one of the three programs I've already mentioned.
The 1.2 million immigrants who came to the UK legally in 2024 had visas to enter e.g. study, work, family, etc.
And I didn't say they're all asylum seekers - I said the majority are by virtue of the fact that 70% are granted asylum. (We're actually in agreement that the 30% who are economic migrants should be deported back to their home country.) Calling all the migrants who come across the channel "illegal" is ignorant - asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants unless and until their asylum claim fails.

Are you serious? I've just given you the statistic - 70% of people arriving in boats across the channel are granted asylum.

How do you know the majority are asylum seekers?

Since I have not seen the video and rarely agree with anything TR says, probably not.
But I think Israel is correct to secure her borders against terrorists whose avowed aim is the destruction of Israel.

But most of the people - young men, mainly - entering illegally in small boats are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants.

I don't. But I think crossing one of the busiest stretches of water in the world a stupid way to try to enter a country. And not all are asylum seekers, they are mostly economic migrants who have no right enter a country just because they have friends there. There is also the question of fairness. Those who are economic migrants are jumping the queue, most unjust. Other people come the legal way and are most welcome.

Because frankly, beggars can't be choosers.

What's the "proper way"? The UK has no safe and legal routes for asylum seekers to come to the UK, with the exception of three programs specifically for Afghanis, Hong Kong Chinese and Ukrainians.
The minority of the people crossing the channel are illegal immigrants, but the majority are genuine asylum seekers, given that around 70% of people entering this way are granted asylum.

So you agree with what TR said in the video quoted? Even he realised his mask slipped and deleted it.

We're not talking about all immigrants, but specifically about asylum seekers. Signatory countries to the 1951 Refugee Convention (of which the UK is one of the original signatories) do have to accept asylum claims and for those claims which prove to be valid, do have to give those refugees asylum.

There could be a number of reasons, not least that they may speak English (and not French) and have family or friends here, but not in France.
Asylum seekers are not required by the 1951 Refugee Convention and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to claim asylum in the first safe country they come to, however, the UNHCR reports that 67% of refugees do actually live in countries neighbouring the one they've been forced to flee, with Turkey and Iran hosting millions of refugees from neighbouring countries.
Why do you think that mainland European countries like France should accept asylum seekers, but not the UK?

He is critisising the bien pensants among Jewry. Some (I would not, I am not so arrogant nor anti-semitic) would call them appeasers but I understand trying to get out from under, to avoid confrontation if possible, as Chamberlain did in 1938, buying another year in which to prepare for the war he knew was coming.
However, one might call out such as Starmer and of those who want Israel to stop trying to get rid Hamas and just give in. Had your daughter been found tied to a tree, obviously tortured and her body mutilated I doubt you would want to live next door to Hamas and co. either.
Not that I either like or approve Tommy Robinson who has caused manifold problems, nearly destroyed a rape gang trial and is generally unpleasant. That doesn't mean that occasionally he might be right, sadly.

Honestly? I'd probably go to Ireland. If not there, then Italy, perhaps, and learn the language.

No I would go and apply for asylum somewhere I felt I could build a life.

Everyone has the right to claim asylum it doesn’t mean they’d get it of course but they can apply.

You still haven’t said what you would honestly do?

Read this and tell me Robinson isn't trying to stir up hatred even more.

In fact you would have to go where you had a possibility of being accepted, which might not be where you had friends or family these days. Countries do not have to accept immigrants just because they want to come, they have a right to pick and choose who they want. No-one without possession of a UK or RoI passport has any right to come and live in the UK.

A Muslim managed to kill 2 Jews in Manchester last week, on Yom Kippur and then pro-Palestinians marched shouting 'to the river to the sea' and 'globalise the intifada' in Manchester streets the same day, as well as on Oct 7th (with pictures of Stars of David being binned and the message that this was a way to clean up the world). I seriously doubt TR is making relations between Muslims and Jews more difficult.

Why should they? Why can’t they claim asylum where they want/need/have family/speak the language? If you had to leave the UK, where would you go? I know for myself if something happened and myself and my family need to leave the UK and claim asylum somewhere it wouldn’t be the first country I could get to, it would be where I had family or friends or spoke the language or where we could make a life for ourselves.