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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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Jujujudo · 05/10/2025 16:28

flaggyflaggy · 05/10/2025 16:23

You’re conflating issues here. Factually, Muslims follow a religion, Muslims are not a particular race or ethnic origin.

Two points. I think we can use racist to mean against a religious group too. Any hate shown towards a “people” is racist.
Secondly, anyone can be racist, including Muslims. I’m not saying they are, I’m just saying that being a member of a group doesn’t make you not racist if you see what I mean?

Tandora · 05/10/2025 16:28

WalkDontWalk · 05/10/2025 15:11

I'd go over and say, "Am I part of the kingdom you want to unite? Is there anyone currently in the kingdom that you don't want to unite?"

And unless the answers are respectively 'yes' and 'no', I'd put up my own flag saying, 'Unite the Kingdom, except the bloke at number 27 and a few others (list available on request)'

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Hahah love this

Whistledown2 · 05/10/2025 16:28

@CountFuculaI have ‘brown’ family members and my grandparents were immigrants. I have no issue with the flag. I have encountered racist views by white/brown and people of different cultures. It is more prevalent than people think.

TR has a wingman of ‘colour’ too. I wonder what he thinks?

Personally I am live and let live but there is a huge problem with illegal immigration here. It needs to be controlled.

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 05/10/2025 16:28

It's shite OP. But I take it as a positive in some ways because now I know which of my neighbours are moronic bellends that I'll never take in parcels for etc.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:28

Donttellempike · 05/10/2025 16:05

He’s displaying a racist dog whistle

Ah “dog whistle” the terminology of the leftist liberal squad.

DrowningInSyrup · 05/10/2025 16:28

SpottyAardvark · 05/10/2025 15:33

I’m glad I live in a country which still permits free speech, even for people I dislike who are saying things I disagree with.

Long may our freedoms continue.

I feel freedom of speech is different to a hate campaign. Where do you draw the line?

CautiousLurker01 · 05/10/2025 16:27

Jujujudo · 05/10/2025 16:23

I’m the granddaughter of immigrants and I’m Jewish. You could put a poster up supporting the Jewish community who lost two members to a terror attack in Manchester if you like. That would be really brave!

Am not that brave, but I did write to the Head Rabbi of our local synagogue to send my condolences and express my horror. Not much in the scheme of things and not putting myself on the line, though.

Skybluepinky · 05/10/2025 16:27

Think you aren’t understanding they want them to unite, which means they embrace everyone.

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:27

ScribblingPixie · 05/10/2025 16:18

Really struggling to see why you'd mention his hair loss and weight.

Yes probably unfair. I was just saying the dad looks like a standard white bloke in response to someone asking if there's any indication they're racist. To be very clear I don't correlate the two. My own DP looks very similar. It's not like ppl walk around with the word 'racist' or 'far right supporter' tattooed to their forehead. They live among us and I guess it's just a wake up call to me about how prevalent these views are.

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 16:26

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:12

You say and I quote
” I think it’s perfectly legitimate to engage in legal protest about issues that they are concerned about,”
Therefore why on earth are you adding comments to this thread trying to downgrade people who want to fly this particular flag about issues they are concerned about.

Eh? Where on earth have I said that people shouldn't be allowed to fly flags in their own houses or gardens, or that they shouldn't be allowed to engage in legal protests about immigration or whatever. I think you'll find that I haven't argued against anyone's right to freedom of expression.

But of course, if someone uses their freedom of expression to tell me that they're a racist twat, then I am free to draw my own conclusions about them on the basis of what they have chosen to express. And indeed, I can exercise my own freedom of expression to say what I think of their views.

I wholeheartedly respect and support your right to hold an opinion that might be different from my own. That doesn't mean that I have to respect or support the opinion itself. You seem to be somewhat confused about the difference.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:25

Donttellempike · 05/10/2025 16:04

Yes. You are

No you are.

CautiousLurker01 · 05/10/2025 16:25

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 15:13

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race.

Why “therefore”? My husband is the son of an immigrant mother and he’s not mixed race

Similarly my children are those of an immigrant and not mixed race. And an illegal immigrant at that… my mother failed to register me and I only discovered in my final year of uni that I was here illegally having overstayed my visa. But I am white, drive a BMW and live in Surrey so the OP’s flag waver would probably be okay with me… 🤦🏽‍♀️

flaggyflaggy · 05/10/2025 16:23

EchoedSilence · 05/10/2025 15:39

I doubt my neighbours are racist considering both sides are muslim.I live in one of those very diverse areas that some MNers think are no go areas.

You’re conflating issues here. Factually, Muslims follow a religion, Muslims are not a particular race or ethnic origin.

Jujujudo · 05/10/2025 16:23

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 15:13

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race.

Why “therefore”? My husband is the son of an immigrant mother and he’s not mixed race

I’m the granddaughter of immigrants and I’m Jewish. You could put a poster up supporting the Jewish community who lost two members to a terror attack in Manchester if you like. That would be really brave!

Fairyliz · 05/10/2025 16:22

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:13

I've not met them but I see them in their garden and going in and out of their shed/outhouse.

So you have not made any attempt to get to know these people but have decided that you don’t like them.
Are you a Reform voter?

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:21

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:20

I would take several neon flashing snowmen over this flag any day. I do hope it's something that he will take down at some point. Everything has it's life cycle including campaigns and slogans like that. I can just see that he has invested in getting a nice big flag with this wording printed on it, and a flag pole to fly it from. And ladders to put it up. He's gone to a bit of effort.

I am saying 'he'. In fact I do not know that the man is the main driver of this initiative.

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ByShyRaven · 05/10/2025 16:20

Pluto46 · 05/10/2025 15:56

Just when you thought the endless drivel about flags was over, up pops another on

ah yeah because a young woman feeling intimidated by racist neighbours is “endless drivel”

thanks for the compassion 👍

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:20

meadster · 05/10/2025 15:51

I'm sorry that's made you feel sad OP. I'm sure you know that most people just view those flags as an easy way to identify the racist idiots.

Whenever I see a "Unite the Kingdom" flag I want to add the words "by showing tolerance and respect towards others" underneath. I'm hoping it's a short-lived thing. Maybe by Christmas your neighbours will have replaced it with a great big flashing snowman!

I would take several neon flashing snowmen over this flag any day. I do hope it's something that he will take down at some point. Everything has it's life cycle including campaigns and slogans like that. I can just see that he has invested in getting a nice big flag with this wording printed on it, and a flag pole to fly it from. And ladders to put it up. He's gone to a bit of effort.

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SapphireSeptember · 05/10/2025 16:19

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 16:10

Would you? How disgraceful to make automatically pejorative assumptions about anybody based on such a thing as displaying the national flag of one's country.

So many of the people currently banging on scathingly about 'flag shaggers' thought nothing of plasting their facebook profiles with the EU flag post Brexit, did they? With its missing star and all the 'look after our star for us' bollocks. And smugly getting the obligatory UK bumper stickers with the EU stars and around them for driving into France. Funny how they don't see themselves as flag shaggers. Hmm

The 'look after our star for us' thing was started by two WW2 veterans. Pretty sure they must have been very patriotic considering they served their country.

CountFucula · 05/10/2025 16:19

Whistledown2 · 05/10/2025 16:15

I’m sure there are many ‘standard English/overweight/balding blokes’ that go to the pub and (dare I say it) watch the football and have a pint, with no other agenda than to do just that.

You clearly have a ‘chip’

Think I’d have a ‘chip’ if my neighbours flew a flag that has clear and demonstrable links to a far right agenda and I was mixed race. I’d have a problem with it because I’d like to think I was surrounded by tolerance and Britishness in the true sense and not this nasty fascism dressed as patriotism.

ByShyRaven · 05/10/2025 16:18

Daisymay1000 · 05/10/2025 15:47

So you’re angry at a British flag being flown in Britain?! Really?

Ah look! Here’s another one.

I can’t tell if people are gaslighting or if some people do not understand how a flag with a slogan associated with a notorious racist would be offensive and intimating to non white people.

I can spell it out. The only reason for the recent proliferation of flags in the uk, is for white people to try and intimidate nonnwhite people who they feel “dont belong here”. A lot of the them will pipe up and say “its only the boat people” they despise, but this is disingenuous.

OP: I’m sorry that your living next to racists.

GypsyQueeen · 05/10/2025 16:18

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 16:14

What the Op getting a sense the family was racist from when she’d walked past the property and they’d been outside? You think unfathomable that people can convey racism obliquely?

The examples of 'racism' given were just so simplistic and childlike though...

ScribblingPixie · 05/10/2025 16:18

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:09

The dad looks like a standard English 'bloke' that you might see down the pub, a little overweight, balding. I don't think that's an indicator of anything though, despite what ppl say about 'gammon' (absolutely hate that term).

Really struggling to see why you'd mention his hair loss and weight.

TigTails · 05/10/2025 16:17

It would be mysteriously disappearing overnight.

Whistledown2 · 05/10/2025 16:16

Btw what is ‘gammon’

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