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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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TheCaribbeanIsCallingMe · 05/10/2025 16:42

Aren't you British then?

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 16:41

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 16:36

People can fly any flags that they want in their homes and gardens.

But if people choose to fly a rainbow flag, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards homosexuality.

Similarly, if people choose to fly a union jack flag with a racist campaign slogan on it, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards race.

If someone flew a rainbow flag would you make the assumption that while being supportive of people who are 'non-hetero-normative' they are also the sort of people who screech bile into the faces of gender critical women, get them fired from their jobs and make violent threats to kill and rape women who publicly campaign against allowing people with penises into women only spaces and women only sports? The more deranged and abusive and offensive element of the trans rights activism movement?

Would you make that assumption about everyone sporting a rainbow? A simple yes or no will suffice.

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:41

AngelicKaty · 05/10/2025 16:32

@UrticaDioca YANBU OP and I don't blame you for being upset. I agree that if it were just the Union flag you could interpret it as a British patriot wanting to reclaim their flag from the racists, but the addition of the words "Unite the Kingdom" are a reflection of the "Unite the Kingdom" rally organised by Tommy Ten Names in London in September this year which was nationalistic and racist, not patriotic (and was met by Stand Up to Racism - SUTR - counter-protesters).
Unfortunately, as you've already stated, there's nothing you can do but rise above it. Or maybe fly a Union flag from your shed with the initials SUTR on it ... 😉 I'm sorry you're having to tolerate this OP, but sadly, bigots and ignoramuses exist everywhere - maybe just pity him.

Thank you. Rising above a 20ft flag pole does certainly sound like something that is worth aspiring towards, difficult as it may be.

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Castlereagh · 05/10/2025 16:41

I'm so sorry your neighbours are racist. We have racist neighbours too and we just put hope not hate and stand up to racism posters up, but I guess they might escalate. People who believe in Stephen yaxley Lennon and Nigel Farages nonsense likely had a difficult early life, difficulty in relationships and potentially weren't taught critical thinking skills. Quite a high proportion of people attending far right demos are also domestic abuse perpetrators so many of those were likely boys who grew up in abusive households themselves. It's easier to hate and blame others than make positive changes.

RafaistheKingofClay · 05/10/2025 16:40

Dunnocantthinkofone · 05/10/2025 15:19

There have and always will be racist pricks in this world, sadly. They will jump on any bandwagon going and hijack it - unfortunately

Maybe I’m being naive and ignorant, but I thought the whole flag thing was brought about regarding uncontrolled migration (especially by boat) not as a racist statement. Yet time and time again, I see people connecting the dots and immediately assuming the worst
Perhaps I’m wrong?

The uncontrolled migration is the cover they use for what is essentially their existing racism. They’ll reel more people in that way.

A Union flag with ‘unite the kingdom’ on is very much going to be referring to TR’s campaign and is more likely to be straight up racism than any genuine concern about uncontrolled immigration.

GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 16:40

Blinky21 · 05/10/2025 16:34

The campaign has been very useful in outing racist neighbours who can now be shunned

By all means shun them.

They have a vote however, so Labour cannot afford to ‘shun’ them. Like it or not, they are pulling politicians apart.

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 16:39

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 16:36

People can fly any flags that they want in their homes and gardens.

But if people choose to fly a rainbow flag, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards homosexuality.

Similarly, if people choose to fly a union jack flag with a racist campaign slogan on it, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards race.

A house I pass on my way to work fly a pirate flag.

Ddakji · 05/10/2025 16:38

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 16:32

“Standard white bloke”

bit weird OP

You missed the bit where she said much like her own DP. Pure oversight on your part, I’m sure.

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 05/10/2025 16:37

Ablushingcrow · 05/10/2025 16:35

It's England. If you're offended by the flag, maybe North Korea would suit you better.

Ah yes, North Korea, a country famous for never displaying any flags.

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:37

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 05/10/2025 16:28

It's shite OP. But I take it as a positive in some ways because now I know which of my neighbours are moronic bellends that I'll never take in parcels for etc.

Haha yes, good thought on not taking in parcels. That shall be my valiant stand of defiance against my racist neighbours. That will absolutely show them.

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GabrielsOboe · 05/10/2025 16:36

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

Why don’t you a) tell your neighbour how you feel, b) fly a flag of your own choosing from your garden, or c) accept it and do nothing.

One rather suspects you will select c).

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 16:36

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 16:31

Says who? And so what? You clearly don't know everyone who ever flew a national or union flag in their garden, yet you are stating confidently that only people who are 'far right' have done it. That's just your small minded prejudice showing.

Just because we apparently don't have a 'tradition' of something doesn't mean it's wrong or bad to want to do it. What if people wanted to make it a tradition from now on? Ordinary, patriotic, non-far right people?

There was no tradition of displaying the rainbow flag either, until relatively recently. I trust you wish to complain about the people doing that too, and cast aspersions on their characters?

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People can fly any flags that they want in their homes and gardens.

But if people choose to fly a rainbow flag, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards homosexuality.

Similarly, if people choose to fly a union jack flag with a racist campaign slogan on it, I will make certain assumptions about their attitudes towards race.

Ablushingcrow · 05/10/2025 16:35

It's England. If you're offended by the flag, maybe North Korea would suit you better.

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:34

Whistledown2 · 05/10/2025 16:15

I’m sure there are many ‘standard English/overweight/balding blokes’ that go to the pub and (dare I say it) watch the football and have a pint, with no other agenda than to do just that.

You clearly have a ‘chip’

I do not have a chip thanks. I was making your exact point in fact.

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Blinky21 · 05/10/2025 16:34

The campaign has been very useful in outing racist neighbours who can now be shunned

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:34

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 16:08

Possibly. There aren't any in my community so I can't comment.

Yes that would be true.

JohnBullshit · 05/10/2025 16:33

Should I pretend to be surprised at some of the 'it's just a flag' bullshitting on this thread? No, I can't be arsed. There's a very big difference between flying a flag and flying a flag bearing a slogan which has widely known far right connotations. Yes, it's the guy's own property. He can do what he likes. And people can draw their own conclusions about what an arsehole he is.
Stop pretending not to understand this.

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 16:32

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:27

Yes probably unfair. I was just saying the dad looks like a standard white bloke in response to someone asking if there's any indication they're racist. To be very clear I don't correlate the two. My own DP looks very similar. It's not like ppl walk around with the word 'racist' or 'far right supporter' tattooed to their forehead. They live among us and I guess it's just a wake up call to me about how prevalent these views are.

“Standard white bloke”

bit weird OP

AngelicKaty · 05/10/2025 16:32

@UrticaDioca YANBU OP and I don't blame you for being upset. I agree that if it were just the Union flag you could interpret it as a British patriot wanting to reclaim their flag from the racists, but the addition of the words "Unite the Kingdom" are a reflection of the "Unite the Kingdom" rally organised by Tommy Ten Names in London in September this year which was nationalistic and racist, not patriotic (and was met by Stand Up to Racism - SUTR - counter-protesters).
Unfortunately, as you've already stated, there's nothing you can do but rise above it. Or maybe fly a Union flag from your shed with the initials SUTR on it ... 😉 I'm sorry you're having to tolerate this OP, but sadly, bigots and ignoramuses exist everywhere - maybe just pity him.

UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 16:32

Fairyliz · 05/10/2025 16:22

So you have not made any attempt to get to know these people but have decided that you don’t like them.
Are you a Reform voter?

I know nothing about them. They're two doors over. I know my immediate neighbours and everyone is lovely.

No, I haven't decided that I don't like them. But I certainly know that I don't like who/what they're aligning themselves with in flying this particular flag. I'd like to believe that their heart is in the right place somehow, and I will be trying to convince myself of that, if only to make it more bearable to look at this bloody flag every day.

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HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 16:31

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 16:15

British people don’t have tradition for flying the flag in their gardens though unless they are far right supporters.

Says who? And so what? You clearly don't know everyone who ever flew a national or union flag in their garden, yet you are stating confidently that only people who are 'far right' have done it. That's just your small minded prejudice showing.

Just because we apparently don't have a 'tradition' of something doesn't mean it's wrong or bad to want to do it. What if people wanted to make it a tradition from now on? Ordinary, patriotic, non-far right people?

There was no tradition of displaying the rainbow flag either, until relatively recently. I trust you wish to complain about the people doing that too, and cast aspersions on their characters?

BurntBroccoli · 05/10/2025 16:30

I find it quite handy to know who to avoid in the locality when newly erected flags have been put up.

Many with existing flags in their garden have then theirs down presumably as it is now associated with “Unite the Kingdom” and Tommy Robinson.

Jujujudo · 05/10/2025 16:30

CautiousLurker01 · 05/10/2025 16:27

Am not that brave, but I did write to the Head Rabbi of our local synagogue to send my condolences and express my horror. Not much in the scheme of things and not putting myself on the line, though.

Thank you. That’s extremely kind.

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 05/10/2025 16:30

Just let them be. If anything it’s an indicator of people to steer clear from and I like when people tell on themselves. Saves you the trouble.

Donttellempike · 05/10/2025 16:29

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 16:28

Ah “dog whistle” the terminology of the leftist liberal squad.

According to racists