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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 21:24

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 20:51

No, I don't or I would not ask. I think the union is under threat in its 300th and odd year, and more than before. It's not nasty to want to keep it united, the most successful and longest lasting union of countries in the world.

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Racists flying flags is dividing the country, not uniting it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 21:21

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 20:40

What ahead of those involved in the grooming gangs scandal including the actual child rapists themselves.
Minimising and “white men do it as well post incoming in ….3 2 1

The ones whose trials were being compromised by Tommy Robinson? He did his utmost to make those trials unsafe. He's no friend to victims.

Not only does he try to stop victims getting justice, he's good personal friends with paedophiles too.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 21:19

LavenderBlue19 · 05/10/2025 21:13

He literally started the EDL. I'm not sure how much more evidence you need that he's racist? 🙄

And what specifically was the purpose of the EDL?

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 21:18

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 21:10

Many posters on here are not white British and have said they are not bothered by the Union flag.

Absolutely. And, in my hypothetical example, not everyone who saw my rampant cock and balls flag would be scared, but those who were, really would be. And of those who would be actually frightened and alarmed by seeing the union flag flapping over their neighbours' houses, none of them are likely to be white British. Hence racist. If your choice only impacts a particular race, and is known to disadvantage and alarm them, then yes it is racist.

MaloryJones · 05/10/2025 21:16

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 15:20

It's a Tommy Robinson slogan. Hence it is racist.

Do grow up ffs

LavenderBlue19 · 05/10/2025 21:13

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 20:18

I don't think Tommy Robinson is famous for being a racist. I think he's a famous for being an anti-Islam activist. There is a difference. Whether he is or isn't racist is almost moot. His main tub to thump is against the creep of Islam in Britain.

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He literally started the EDL. I'm not sure how much more evidence you need that he's racist? 🙄

ToWhitToWhoo · 05/10/2025 21:12

Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 21:04

The poll is bang on 50/50.

I can’t tell you not to be offended op, as you clearly are. Do you know your neighbours? Why not discuss it with them?

Some of the 50-50 may be due to people who are pro-flag but opposed to it's use by Tommy Robinson supporters.

I voted YANBU, but considered voting YABU because it's not the flag as such that is the problem.

rockstarshoes · 05/10/2025 21:11

The good thing about this OP is that you now have the measure of them although I’m sorry you have to look at that every day!

And those people who post with their I’ve never heard of ‘ Unite the Kingdom ‘ are you not ashamed to be so uneducated about what’s happening in your own Country?

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 21:10

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 20:42

Nope, no assumption needed I'm afraid. If I put up a symbol in my garden (let's say a gigantic cock and balls) that others find frightening, and refuse to remove it, I am for sure an asshat. I'm prioritising my choice over their comfort. That said, I'm not in this scenario a racist. The people who will be upset, scared, alarmed etc by this are not differentiated by race. However those who feel threatened by the 'UtK' flag are differentiated by race. As a white British person I don't feel threatened, only embarrassed.

Many posters on here are not white British and have said they are not bothered by the Union flag.

Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 21:06

Pedallleur · 05/10/2025 20:08

Odd because I can remember Boris and his Brexit bus and his waving Union flags whilst hanging from a wire and everything being oven ready. Remind me how well that went.

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It didn’t go well hence we now have reform most likely to be the next government. I am surprised you haven’t connected the two events.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 21:05

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 19:22

It is not racist to think that immigration should be controlled, but it would be extremely strange for someone who doesn't have racist sympathies to go on a march organised by a well known racist.

Lots of people went on that march including many who are not racist. Many are at the end of their tether what with the history of our country being trashed as wicked, evil, exploitative etc and that our ancestors never, ever did anything good or worthwhile and have contributed nothing to the world. They are also tired of their way of life being denigrated, their politics causing them to be called racist bigots and gammon, and being told their country has no culture (greatest playwright who ever wrote? greatest poet who ever wrote?), and no customs worthy of respect. So quite a lot of people might follow Tommy Robinson and march for a united kingdom, not a community of communities or a land of strangers (Starmer really should read his speeches before he speaks them). A lot are deeply unhappy that many people (mostly the ones who despise the working classes) support a bunch of terrorists who raped, burned, murdered and took hostages and filmed it all to broadcast, on Oct 7th 23, too.

ToWhitToWhoo · 05/10/2025 21:05

Petitchat · 05/10/2025 19:59

We are all entitled to different opinions though ....

Yes, and we are also entitled to hate people who support far-right-wingers. (And yes, they are also entitled to hate me; might make things simpler in fact.)

Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 21:04

The poll is bang on 50/50.

I can’t tell you not to be offended op, as you clearly are. Do you know your neighbours? Why not discuss it with them?

Petitchat · 05/10/2025 20:58

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 20:30

I know, it was shocking to see so many racists out in force, wasn't it.

That sounds so unrealistic, it's past ridiculous 🤣

JustSawJohnny · 05/10/2025 20:58

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 20:40

What ahead of those involved in the grooming gangs scandal including the actual child rapists themselves.
Minimising and “white men do it as well post incoming in ….3 2 1

Did you hear about the victim of a child grooming gang who got thrown off stage at the rally because she said her rapists were white men?

Literally booed off stage and abused.

They claim to be there to 'protect women and girls' but we all know their racism trumps everything.

Put me in a room full of immigrants over the people at the rallys, every day of the week.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 20:56

BitOutOfPractice · 05/10/2025 19:16

I know what it means. I also take very little notice of the bible. Everyone judges. Especially people who put flags up. The judgiest of the lot.

It would pay us all to take more notice of what the Nazareen said, I think. He taught that one should treat others as one wished to be treated and be welcoming to strangers as well as pointing out that being judgemental usually rebounded on those who made the judgements.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 20:51

OwlBeThere · 05/10/2025 18:31

Fake innocence is really boring. You know as well as I do why it’s nasty.

No, I don't or I would not ask. I think the union is under threat in its 300th and odd year, and more than before. It's not nasty to want to keep it united, the most successful and longest lasting union of countries in the world.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 20:48

LakieLady · 05/10/2025 19:44

In Oldbury we have had a Sikh woman born here raped and beaten by two white racists telling her to go back to her own country.

Omg, that is horrific, @Agrumpyknitter . The poor woman. Wtf is this country turning into?

I take it you didn’t hear about the 3 day ordeal of the 12 year old who was abducted drugged and attacked over that 3 day period then.
Indeed what the fuck is this country turning into .

Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag
Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 20:42

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 20:24

The evidence is not the flag. You are making the assumption that the people putting it up are racist. They may think that immigration should be controlled or that maybe attacking Jews on Yom Kippur is wrong, or possibly that immigrants are extremely welcome but should integrate somewhat and learn the language if they do not yet speak it. None of that is racist.
Unless you speak to people you do not know what they think.
If the Union flag - however presented - makes you feel unsafe then perhaps the problem is yours, not the flag's? It's my flag and possibly yours.
Locally a Palestinian flag is on display, with 'Free Palestine'. It is the flag of a nation run by terrorists who have committed atrocities. I have no problem with it being displayed nor with the views of the people displaying it (though if I were Jewish I might, I suppose).

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Nope, no assumption needed I'm afraid. If I put up a symbol in my garden (let's say a gigantic cock and balls) that others find frightening, and refuse to remove it, I am for sure an asshat. I'm prioritising my choice over their comfort. That said, I'm not in this scenario a racist. The people who will be upset, scared, alarmed etc by this are not differentiated by race. However those who feel threatened by the 'UtK' flag are differentiated by race. As a white British person I don't feel threatened, only embarrassed.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 20:41

MiniPantherOwner · 05/10/2025 17:29

I object to the flag of my country being co-opted by the right wing to symbolise racist hate. Over time it will be claimed back. I would generally think nothing about someone displaying an England flag during a sports event or a union jack for a coronation etc. Putting up a flag right after Tommy Robinson's march is making a statement, that they want people to understand. It's disgraceful the British and England flags are being used in this way.

Yes, I agree. Not convinced every Union flag flying supports Mr Robinson. I do think people are tired of what feels like open borders and immigrants who do not want to join the ship, as it were. There have been some unpleasant scandals such as grooming gangs which were allowed to continue apparently to prevent accusations of racism.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 20:40

JustSawJohnny · 05/10/2025 20:31

I'm with you.

He's a proven racist, liar and criminal.

He's right at the front of the scum list for me.

What ahead of those involved in the grooming gangs scandal including the actual child rapists themselves.
Minimising and “white men do it as well post incoming in ….3 2 1

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 05/10/2025 20:36

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 20:22

You don’t have to be a lefty to know TR and his supporters are racists. Can’t believe we are even discussing that.

I’m not just talking about TR.
It’s every fucking political thread now.
Doc Brown did a cracking song, “Everybody’s Racist”.

LakieLady · 05/10/2025 20:36

34ransum · 05/10/2025 16:54

Immigrant here.

There are hundreds of flags on my high street and commute.

It makes me feel incredibly sad, angry, frustrated, unwelcome, othered...

I also feel sad for my children, neither of whom are white, both who were born here and have only English passports

I'm so sorry these arseholes have caused you to feel like this. It must be awful.

But I genuinely believe that only a minority of white British people have these views. Where I live, a town of approx 20k people in a mainly rural county, I have seen precisely 3 flags. A few miles away, on the main road that runs along the coast, there's a stretch of around a dozen or two. And that's truly all I've seen.

But it makes me feel sad, too. I thought all this shit was a thing of the past, and associated it with the National Front back in the 1970s. I fucking hated it then and I hate it now, and it feels like we've stepped back 50 years. I'm just pissed off that I'm too old and decrepit to go mixing it with racists and fascists like I did back then.

FindingMeno · 05/10/2025 20:36

I can't believe the number of people on here that think they're anything other than knuckledragging racists.
I'm sorry op that you have these people as your neighbours.
I am horrified by the numbers of these people who walk amongst us.

JustSawJohnny · 05/10/2025 20:31

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 20:26

OK, we can agree to disagree. As far as I'm concerned, there is no question that he is racist. If you don't agree, we will not find any common ground.

I'm with you.

He's a proven racist, liar and criminal.

He's right at the front of the scum list for me.

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