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Neighbour has put up huge Unite the Kingdom flag

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UrticaDioca · 05/10/2025 15:05

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done.

I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

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CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 07:38

Lollipop81 · 06/10/2025 07:21

Please explain why someone flying their own countries flag is probably racist?

a flag carrying a slogan associated with a racist organization is racist.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 07:31

Lollipop81 · 06/10/2025 07:21

Please explain why someone flying their own countries flag is probably racist?

Because of the current massive racist flag flying campaign.

This stuff isn’t difficult to understand.

Lollipop81 · 06/10/2025 07:21

Simplestars · 05/10/2025 18:00

The flag is not racist. The person flying it usually is.

Please explain why someone flying their own countries flag is probably racist?

VoulezVouz · 06/10/2025 07:03

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 21:05

Lots of people went on that march including many who are not racist. Many are at the end of their tether what with the history of our country being trashed as wicked, evil, exploitative etc and that our ancestors never, ever did anything good or worthwhile and have contributed nothing to the world. They are also tired of their way of life being denigrated, their politics causing them to be called racist bigots and gammon, and being told their country has no culture (greatest playwright who ever wrote? greatest poet who ever wrote?), and no customs worthy of respect. So quite a lot of people might follow Tommy Robinson and march for a united kingdom, not a community of communities or a land of strangers (Starmer really should read his speeches before he speaks them). A lot are deeply unhappy that many people (mostly the ones who despise the working classes) support a bunch of terrorists who raped, burned, murdered and took hostages and filmed it all to broadcast, on Oct 7th 23, too.

Sources for these things you mention? Who ever said our ancestors never did anything good or worthwhile, for example?

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 04:00

To paraphrase Billy Bragg-if you’re flying your flag for legitimate non racist reasons you don’t have to explain that you’re not a racist.

FortuneFaded · 06/10/2025 01:08

I’d just ignore it. His views are still his views with or without a flag. You can’t change it being there, but you can choose to be glad he has outed himself as someone whose views are opposite to yours and ignore him as you do now.
Someone in our street has a flagpole, they put up all sorts of flags, including the St George one recently. They also have two Easter Island heads on plinths either side of their drive, and decorate them with different hats. I barely notice now as I think it looks shit and choose to ignore.

placemats · 05/10/2025 23:37

Centuriesahead · 05/10/2025 15:29

Prior to this, have you had any engagement with them? Any hint they are racist?

What does a person have to do to 'hint' they are racist?

I'd start with a flag that Tommy Robinson endorses.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 05/10/2025 23:25

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 21:05

Lots of people went on that march including many who are not racist. Many are at the end of their tether what with the history of our country being trashed as wicked, evil, exploitative etc and that our ancestors never, ever did anything good or worthwhile and have contributed nothing to the world. They are also tired of their way of life being denigrated, their politics causing them to be called racist bigots and gammon, and being told their country has no culture (greatest playwright who ever wrote? greatest poet who ever wrote?), and no customs worthy of respect. So quite a lot of people might follow Tommy Robinson and march for a united kingdom, not a community of communities or a land of strangers (Starmer really should read his speeches before he speaks them). A lot are deeply unhappy that many people (mostly the ones who despise the working classes) support a bunch of terrorists who raped, burned, murdered and took hostages and filmed it all to broadcast, on Oct 7th 23, too.

It's interesting that you should mention the horrific attacks on Israel on October 7th two years ago. I have grave concerns about the Israeli government's actions in Gaza and about our own government's response to those actions. However, I would never go on one of the pro Palestine marches because it is very clear that some of the people on those marches have been using them as a vehicle for the expression of their antisemitic hate. I recognise that aligning myself with those people, and marching alongside them, might suggest that I was condoning the antisemitism, and I am categorically not willing to do that. Because it is wrong.

If people choose to march alongside racists, they are effectively choosing to condone racism. And as far as I'm concerned, that makes them part of the problem.

Greenmouldycheese · 05/10/2025 22:50

How awful that flying the country's flag is now being called racist. Our flags are beautiful and we should be proud.

BusyExpert · 05/10/2025 22:34

That "fucking flag" is the flag of the country that you live in and the home of your ancestors. I suggest you get over yourself
Shameful language

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 22:31

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 22:08

That some people think flying the Union flag is racist is dividing the country.

Those behind Unite the Kingdom and Operation Raise the Colours are racist.

If they were just a bunch of merry patriots trying to cheer the place up, they'd acknowledge their campaign has backfired, got mixed up with racists and take them down.

But they're not a bunch of merry, wellmeaning, patriots and people, left, right and centre know it. Its just the far right who are playing stupid or are in denial.

BluntPlumHam · 05/10/2025 22:30

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 05/10/2025 19:09

I keep seeing this 'flags reduce purchase prices' argument but there is absolutely no statistical evidence to support this. Many towns have flags all over the place.

A simple Google search will enlighten you. Even before this bizarre flag fetish it was well known that areas with St George’s flags were significantly cheaper to buy because flags lowered the value of their homes.

HRTQueen · 05/10/2025 22:24

I’m sorry op you neighbours are proud racists

of course they would probably say not you it’s those others or similar racist comment

if if makes you feel any better my cousin was out on the March and proudly draped in the flag and she is South Asian and looks it wtf 🤬 her mum my aunty suffered terrible racism when she came here and again recently sadly you can’t argue with stupid and it’s even worse when angry and stupid

ToWhitToWhoo · 05/10/2025 22:20

If everyone who flies a union flag, or turns up to a march in support of the UK is racist, is everyone flying a Palestinian flag and joining a pro Palestine demonstration a supporter of Hamas?

No, neither is, but anyone who knowingly turns up to a march led by TOMMY ROBINSON is racist, and anyone who knowingly turns up to a march led by a representative of HAMAS is a supporter of Hamas.

lovernotafighterr · 05/10/2025 22:20

Seymour5 · 05/10/2025 22:09

If everyone who flies a union flag, or turns up to a march in support of the UK is racist, is everyone flying a Palestinian flag and joining a pro Palestine demonstration a supporter of Hamas?

It’s not a march in support of the UK. It’s a march hosted by Tony Robinson and you go to hear him speak. You are either racist or ignorant. I think a lot of it is ignorance personally. Ignorance is dangerous though.

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 22:13

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 22:07

I am not sure it is. Depends on the reason you are targetting them? I.e. Hamas is a hate group, targetting them as being a hate group we would prefer not to have to deal with, is not racist.

Ok, but do you feel that the union flag clearly targets Hamas?

Seymour5 · 05/10/2025 22:09

If everyone who flies a union flag, or turns up to a march in support of the UK is racist, is everyone flying a Palestinian flag and joining a pro Palestine demonstration a supporter of Hamas?

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 22:08

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/10/2025 21:24

Racists flying flags is dividing the country, not uniting it.

That some people think flying the Union flag is racist is dividing the country.

Grammarnut · 05/10/2025 22:07

Cardiaga · 05/10/2025 21:18

Absolutely. And, in my hypothetical example, not everyone who saw my rampant cock and balls flag would be scared, but those who were, really would be. And of those who would be actually frightened and alarmed by seeing the union flag flapping over their neighbours' houses, none of them are likely to be white British. Hence racist. If your choice only impacts a particular race, and is known to disadvantage and alarm them, then yes it is racist.

I am not sure it is. Depends on the reason you are targetting them? I.e. Hamas is a hate group, targetting them as being a hate group we would prefer not to have to deal with, is not racist.

EmeraldRoulette · 05/10/2025 21:45

LavenderBlue19 · 05/10/2025 21:13

He literally started the EDL. I'm not sure how much more evidence you need that he's racist? 🙄

I had this conversation on another thread

Because my memory of the EDL was the T-shirts that said "black and white unite". I was quite confused because that doesn't fit with what people say about EDL. I think this thread was in feminism.

Anyway, I think some people are using the term racist as shorthand for anti radical Islam

Others will say to you that they do feel Tommy Robinson is genuinely racist.

It struck me as being important to know because There will be people here who are too young to remember the EDL and one of my young neighbours was also under the impression that there were skin colour and race issues attached to the EDL.

i'm genuinely surprised how many people don't know about UTK.

tommyhoundmum · 05/10/2025 21:45

Our Deerhound has a union flag on his identity disc. Does that mean he's a racist hound?

I'm his mother and I need to know.

Cluborange666 · 05/10/2025 21:44

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2025 15:19

No, it's Tommy Robinson's campaign.

God I hate him. He’s a nasty piece of work.

Pedallleur · 05/10/2025 21:43

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/10/2025 20:18

I don't think Tommy Robinson is famous for being a racist. I think he's a famous for being an anti-Islam activist. There is a difference. Whether he is or isn't racist is almost moot. His main tub to thump is against the creep of Islam in Britain.

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Whilst admiring Hitler

ttcat37 · 05/10/2025 21:42

Put up a rainbow flag/ trans flag and when he has a big old tantrum you can suggest a flag truce.

PGmicstand · 05/10/2025 21:30

I'm sick of the sight of flags. A load appeared on our high street. I complained to the council who said that they'd been out to inspect and that none were present. I've sent them photos as they are very much present, and places where they partially obscure road signs.
Three weeks later they're still up and more have now been added.
I found out that it's apparently not council policy to remove them.
It feels very unwelcoming. We have a reasonably diverse community where I live and I can't help feeling that this is the tip of the racist iceberg as today I noticed several zebra crossings have been daubed with paint.
It isn't patriotic. It's ridiculous.