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UrticaDioca · 2025-10-05T14:05:49+00:00

I am gutted. I haven't seen a single flag in my town, and suddenly this union jack goes up two doors over with the words 'Unite the Kingdom' printed on it in capital letters. The flag is huge and flying from a pole on top of their shed, but it's in their own garden so nothing can be done. I am the daughter of an immigrant mother and therefore mixed race. Now I have to see this fucking flag waving at me every time I look out of my kitchen or living room windows.

Grammarnut · 06/10/2025 17:15

Shakeoffyourchains · 06/10/2025 11:41

Some of the men behind those campaigns are:

Tommy Robinson, who has convictions for fraud, illegally entering a country on false documents, harassment, stalking, abh, and possession with intent to supply (and doesn't even live in the UK)

Andy Currie, who was jailed for his part in a racist fight that lead to a death in 2009.

Lee Twamley, who served time for being part of an illegal immigration operation in 2016 (I am not joking).

Guramit Singh, who was jailed for tying up a shop assistant and threatened to slash his throat in an attempted robbery.

And Paul Golding, leader of Britain First and self proclaimed fascist with several hate crime convictions.

What a proud bunch of patriots, I wonder what it is about them that you like so much? 🤔

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Don't accuse me of liking TR, I did not say that I did. I said I understood the people who went on the march who are fed up with their culture being both trashed and called no worthwhile culture. They haven't got much recourse outside the likes of TR - sometimes we have strange bedfellows e.g. I don't agree with some GC feminists on lots of matters outside the awful misogyny and homophobia of the trans agenda, but I support them on the thing we do agree on.

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 17:13

Enoughberries · 06/10/2025 15:35

I embarrassed to say i hadn’t been aware of the march, so blissfully ignorant headed in to London to the theatre.

As we approached Waterloo, I had a look around the carriage and thought - cripes, what’s going on…. Lots of fat men drinking tinnies.

And then we arrived and when I exited the station OMFG…. Either fat or malnourished men swigging beer and many smoking… staggering along in their tens of thousands.

The smell!! The Rubbish.

i took a sneaky photo of one of the worst of them… and sent to friends and family with the following

“if he represents my country, then god help us all”

You wouldn't have written something as offensive as this about any other social group in the country.
Only white working class men.
This tells us far more about you than about the people who attended the march.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 17:13

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 17:10

Obviously I know that lots of people say that Tommy Robinson is a racist.
Unfortunately, they seem to be mostly the same people who say that some men are women.
They also seem to be the same people who say that anyone concerned about the massive rise in immigration is an ignorant racist bigot.
So I'd prefer to find out what he's actually said, then make my own decision about him.

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I don't believe that TWAW and I don't believe that anyone with concerns about immigration is necessarily racist. However, I do absolutely believe that TR is a racist.

I absolutely support your quest to go and find out for yourself. Do report back when you've done your research.

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 17:10

AngelicKaty · 06/10/2025 16:53

Yes, of course the rally was racist when it was organised by a racist - his intentions are always racist and/or violent. Are you seriously saying you don't know that Tommy Ten Names is a racist? Have you been living under a rock? Read this for starters: www.standuptoracism.org.uk/wp-content2015/uploads/2024/09/SUtR-Robinson-factsheet-Sept-2024-A4-2pp-3mm-bld_240925_155457.pdf

And why would "thousands of ordinary, 'non-racist' British people" attend a rally organised by this racist thug? Why would they want to risk being associated with him in any way when they could have organised their own rally with no links to him whatsoever? Easy answer: because they share his racist views, but just don't want to admit it.

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Obviously I know that lots of people say that Tommy Robinson is a racist.
Unfortunately, they seem to be mostly the same people who say that some men are women.
They also seem to be the same people who say that anyone concerned about the massive rise in immigration is an ignorant racist bigot.
So I'd prefer to find out what he's actually said, then make my own decision about him.

Grammarnut · 06/10/2025 17:08

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 09:27

Nice to see you don't assume all 'flag shaggers' are racist.

Why do you believe is it odd to fly a flag in the UK? Do you apply this opinion apply to others?

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It's not something we do. I believe some Scots put up the Saltire but I can't remember ever seeing one outwith public buildings.

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 16:56

Enoughberries · 06/10/2025 16:22

@AnnaFrith do you have children?

What the hell has that to do with anything?

AngelicKaty · 06/10/2025 16:53

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 16:19

Yes I know the rally, (attended by hundred(s) of thousands of ordinary, non-racist British people) was called this.
So you think the rally was racist because it was organised by a racist?
But why do you think Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is racist?

I am genuinely interested in what he has said that makes you think he is racist. I don't know whether he is or not, but I can only decide by finding out what he's said. I have listened to him a bit, not much as I find him tedious to listen to, but I didn't think anything I've heard him say was racist.

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Yes, of course the rally was racist when it was organised by a racist - his intentions are always racist and/or violent. Are you seriously saying you don't know that Tommy Ten Names is a racist? Have you been living under a rock? Read this for starters: www.standuptoracism.org.uk/wp-content2015/uploads/2024/09/SUtR-Robinson-factsheet-Sept-2024-A4-2pp-3mm-bld_240925_155457.pdf

And why would "thousands of ordinary, 'non-racist' British people" attend a rally organised by this racist thug? Why would they want to risk being associated with him in any way when they could have organised their own rally with no links to him whatsoever? Easy answer: because they share his racist views, but just don't want to admit it.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:49

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 16:23

Evidently.

'Attending a demonstration about immigration organised by Tommy Robinson is a bit like attending a demonstration about men's rights organised by the Taliban.' So we've finally got there, you do think the attendees are all racist.

And you would think that because you can't accept people may agree with some of his ideas but not all of them. This has been my point all along. How exhausting.

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What on earth do you mean, "finally got there". I have been quite clear from the very outset that I think everyone who attended that march was racist, apart from a few who may have been genuinely too stupid to understand that they were on a racist march. Sure, some might not be vocally racist, but the tacit condoning of racism is still racism imo.

If that's the point you are trying to make all along, then it seems that we have been talking at crossed purposes. It had been my impression that you had been trying to argue that some of the marchers might not have been racist even though they had chosen to march alongside a racist.

FWIW, I do accept that some people might agree with some of TR's views but not all of them. What I don't accept is that someone who isn't racist would choose to go on a demonstration organised by a notorious racist in order to promote his racist rhetoric.

BubblyBath178 · 06/10/2025 16:44

What’s the problem? I’m currently in the US and I’ve noticed how patriotic they are. There’s nothing wrong with being proud of your country. If you’re not, who’s going to be?

CurlewKate · 06/10/2025 16:43

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 16:02

Unfortunately, your way of thinking allows corruption and mistreatment to thrive.

These things need bringing out into the open, not hiding.

We need transparency.
That family achieved that and I applaud them.

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They didn’t achieve transparency because the school wasn’t able to put its point of view. So we don’t know whether there was more to it than we know. Also, I find the idea of putting a child on a platform like that utterly repugnant. And, for the avoidance of doubt, I would say the same about a child that young being put in front of the world’s press regardless of the cause.

Efacsen · 06/10/2025 16:42

Efacsen · 06/10/2025 16:37

Do you have a link to that please?

Nothing on the first few pages of google search as far as I can see

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Plus TR didn't found the EDL until 2009 so it would be tricky to be discussing it on Panorama in 2004

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:37

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 16:20

I meant that you seem to think the parents shouldn't have taken the incident to the media or allowed the girl to appear on stage.

I believe that keeping these things hidden, allows them to continue and thrive.

The girl WAS unfairly treated and indeed, you agreed that it shouldn't have happened.

In my opinion, when people think unfairness shouldn't be publicised, it encourages further unfairness, mistreatment and can lead to corruption.

People need to speak out. We all need to be whistle blowers.

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I absolutely think unfairness should be dealt with, but it should be addressed through the appropriate channels. Whether or not this child was actually treated unfairly cannot be determined from the information that is in the public domain imo, but if the family had genuinely felt that she had been unfairly treated, then there are appropriate ways of raising such concerns and ensuring that decisions are scrutinised appropriately.

I don't personally think that putting a young child on a platform next to a notorious racist, or splashing a one-sided story about her all over the tabloids is an effective way of dealing with unfairness at all. The child has been shamelessly exploited by people with their own political agenda.

I'm not arguing for anything to be hidden. I am merely arguing against the exploitation of children for political purposes.

Efacsen · 06/10/2025 16:37

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 15:41

BBC Panorama did a documentary on the EDL and TR in 2004 where he spoke about grooming gangs.

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Do you have a link to that please?

Nothing on the first few pages of google search as far as I can see

Womanofcustard · 06/10/2025 16:26

ToWhitToWhoo · Yesterday 19:01
It's not impossible to be both Asian and hard-right. Ben Habib, for example.
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These guys always have their token non white person who is supposed to prove they are not racists. I don’t know where they get them from. He has got Katie cannot remember her last name too on his team hasn’t he?

Third response to my comment - coconut bingo!

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 16:23

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:17

You're right, I can't follow your illogical train of thought. You think you have a point but you don't. So I should probably give up.

Attending a demonstration about immigration organised by Tommy Robinson is a bit like attending a demonstration about men's rights organised by the Taliban. It is not a neutral act.

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Evidently.

'Attending a demonstration about immigration organised by Tommy Robinson is a bit like attending a demonstration about men's rights organised by the Taliban.' So we've finally got there, you do think the attendees are all racist.

And you would think that because you can't accept people may agree with some of his ideas but not all of them. This has been my point all along. How exhausting.

Enoughberries · 06/10/2025 16:22

@AnnaFrith do you have children?

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 16:20

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:06

But we can't have transparency because the school is quite rightly unable to tell us what they may or may not know about the child or the family. And I suspect that the child's parents were well aware of this when they decided to take the story to the media.

Please tell me how my way of thinking allows corruption and mistreatment to thrive, exactly? That's quite an allegation, so go on, spell out your logic.

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I meant that you seem to think the parents shouldn't have taken the incident to the media or allowed the girl to appear on stage.

I believe that keeping these things hidden, allows them to continue and thrive.

The girl WAS unfairly treated and indeed, you agreed that it shouldn't have happened.

In my opinion, when people think unfairness shouldn't be publicised, it encourages further unfairness, mistreatment and can lead to corruption.

People need to speak out. We all need to be whistle blowers.

AnnaFrith · 06/10/2025 16:19

AngelicKaty · 06/10/2025 10:24

@AnnaFrith "But this doesn't really explain why you think 'Unite the Kingdom' is racist."
The London rally last month, organised by Tommy Ten Names, was called "Unite the Kingdom" and this is why it's seen as racist. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a vile, racist thug who only wants to unite the UK citizens he approves of (white men).

Yes I know the rally, (attended by hundred(s) of thousands of ordinary, non-racist British people) was called this.
So you think the rally was racist because it was organised by a racist?
But why do you think Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is racist?

I am genuinely interested in what he has said that makes you think he is racist. I don't know whether he is or not, but I can only decide by finding out what he's said. I have listened to him a bit, not much as I find him tedious to listen to, but I didn't think anything I've heard him say was racist.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:17

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 16:09

'Hitler's antisemitism and far right views had fuck all to do with his vegetarianism' Erm yeah who said it did! My example was to point out a vegetarian would share the same belief system as Hitler himself when it comes to eating meat whilst still knowing him to have been an evil fucker!

'Tommy Robinson's views on illegal immigration are inextricably linked to his racism.' It's irrelevant whether TR is racist or not. This does not mean a person attending his march due to anti illegal immigration sentiments, agrees with racism. And we are back to the original point, some people (though fewer and fewer it would seem) possess the ability to separate the views of a person they don't agree with whilst identifying ideas that do align.

Please do give up because you just aren't getting it at all.

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You're right, I can't follow your illogical train of thought. You think you have a point but you don't. So I should probably give up.

Attending a demonstration about immigration organised by Tommy Robinson is a bit like attending a demonstration about men's rights organised by the Taliban. It is not a neutral act.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 16:16

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2025 15:51

He's quite happy palling around with white men who have been accused of sexual offences, such as Russell Brand.

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Accused is not guilty. Look at the list of politicians who have been found guilty of sex crimes and corruption. That should be a concern for all of us.

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 16:09

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 15:38

OK, you're just not getting it. Not sure if that's because you just don't want to get it or because you don't have the thinking skills.

Tommy Robinson's views on illegal immigration are inextricably linked to his racism. Hitler's antisemitism and far right views had fuck all to do with his vegetarianism. If you cannot see the difference, then I give up.

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'Hitler's antisemitism and far right views had fuck all to do with his vegetarianism' Erm yeah who said it did! My example was to point out a vegetarian would share the same belief system as Hitler himself when it comes to eating meat whilst still knowing him to have been an evil fucker!

'Tommy Robinson's views on illegal immigration are inextricably linked to his racism.' It's irrelevant whether TR is racist or not. This does not mean a person attending his march due to anti illegal immigration sentiments, agrees with racism. And we are back to the original point, some people (though fewer and fewer it would seem) possess the ability to separate the views of a person they don't agree with whilst identifying ideas that do align.

Please do give up because you just aren't getting it at all.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 16:06

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 16:02

Unfortunately, your way of thinking allows corruption and mistreatment to thrive.

These things need bringing out into the open, not hiding.

We need transparency.
That family achieved that and I applaud them.

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But we can't have transparency because the school is quite rightly unable to tell us what they may or may not know about the child or the family. And I suspect that the child's parents were well aware of this when they decided to take the story to the media.

Please tell me how my way of thinking allows corruption and mistreatment to thrive, exactly? That's quite an allegation, so go on, spell out your logic.

Petitchat · 06/10/2025 16:02

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 15:29

Personally, I find it extremely unlikely that this was purely about the school "being afraid to step on certain toes".

I strongly suspect that there was a back story relating to this student and/or her family which led the school to feel that her choices were inappropriate. This is supported, imo, by the family's decision to plaster it all over the tabloid media and put the child on a platform next to Tommy Robinson.

The school should have foreseen the potential for their decision to be put into the public domain, and they should have realised that they would not be in a position to release any personal information about the student or her family to justify their actions. If they had thought this through properly before reacting, they could have handled it differently.

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Unfortunately, your way of thinking allows corruption and mistreatment to thrive.

These things need bringing out into the open, not hiding.

We need transparency.
That family achieved that and I applaud them.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/10/2025 15:51

IAmThePrettiestManOnMyIsland · 06/10/2025 14:54

He was exposing the grooming gangs a decade before the contempt of court case, but don't let that nugget of truth distract you.

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He's quite happy palling around with white men who have been accused of sexual offences, such as Russell Brand.

JHound · 06/10/2025 15:50

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/10/2025 15:29

Personally, I find it extremely unlikely that this was purely about the school "being afraid to step on certain toes".

I strongly suspect that there was a back story relating to this student and/or her family which led the school to feel that her choices were inappropriate. This is supported, imo, by the family's decision to plaster it all over the tabloid media and put the child on a platform next to Tommy Robinson.

The school should have foreseen the potential for their decision to be put into the public domain, and they should have realised that they would not be in a position to release any personal information about the student or her family to justify their actions. If they had thought this through properly before reacting, they could have handled it differently.

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Agree with all of this.