No TV before school?!

I don't know That's the whole point of the question isn't it?

Now where did I say that the autism was caused by the tv? The amount of people on here that can't read!!!

I asked how did people with it regulate before screens

Yeah, my autism came from the TV, not the fact that pretty much every single generation of my dad's side of the family is autistic too

What would your ex have done before free access to libraries and cassette tapes/recorders/radio were available?

Those interests/methods of regulation /escapism(which you seem to deem worthy) would’ve been just as frowned upon in their day . Because there was always something more productive, socially acceptable, worthy to be done.

My mum had her radio listening habits restricted, despite doing chores at the same time, so quite productive really.

Well of course, because no ND person is exactly the same and needs the same things or has the exact same struggles or has the exact same presentation and “symptoms”.

Just like with a physical illness. Type one diabetes for example, each child has their individual care plan , with their individual symptoms , treatment and requirements. I wouldn’t give Jimmy a bag if haribos because that’s what Suzie has in a hypo. I also wouldn’t refuse to call mum /allow recovery time for Ellie because Tommy is fine and doesn’t need it. I manage the kid in front of me based on their needs.

And done I know went through school, got jobs bought houses etc.

Define manage. Going through the decades , some were institutionalised or hidden away in some other manner, some were never educated (uneducables) , some were in special schools, some never left their home, some were beaten into submission, some were shunned , some were locked away , some ended up homeless or dead , some never made it past childhood , some had interests /methods of regulation that were also frowned upon and so on.

😂😂 because you’re now blaming screens on ND diagnoses.

in the “olden days”, many people were either not recognised as being ND and instead labelled naughty (or similar), or institutionalised. We are now more aware of their needs.

You’re also placing “need” and “regulate” into quotation marks meaning you are still undermining the people who do need to regulate via a screen or similar.

Also - I love a silly picture 🤪🤪🤪

Lol I no longer have one today now the kids moved out. No need

But only certain friends houses had tvs when I was a kid. Same with house phones

My ex who is def ND born in 60s ( he was called aspie though)didn't have tv as a child either. But could spend hours researching stuff in library if it interested him. And ake huge playlists of music on tape etc.

But no tv before school. Even if they'd have had one his mum would not have allowed it and he's very rule abiding

What's that for? Surely it's a reasonable question on what happened with regulation before constant screens. So u either know the answer or have something to say but obviously not got the language skills to type words rather than resorting to silly pics

FFS 🤦‍♀️

You're the parent, it's up to you. My dc were up at 5 30 so did watch some kids programmes then. They got excellent exam results.

It was VERY unusual for people not to have a TV in the 70s/80s.
Can't speak for the 70s but the 80s was when morning TV became a "thing".
I watched Roland Rat in the mornings. He was on after the Green Goddess exercise slot - which I joined in with.
(even more unusual for you not to have a TV in the 90s 🤔)

In my experience in the 1980s I only met one child in my class who did not have a TV at home. We bonded over TV programmes, as everyone watched the same things then, so this made socialising hard for him.

Many of us kids didn't have tv in the 70s and 80s. My own DDs didn't have one in the 90s. I don't think " most" people had tv in the 50s

And I'm not sure kids programmes were shown before school dither

TV has been around since the 1930s although most families didn't have a set until the 50s.
1953 was a popular year for getting TVs due to the Queens Coronation. That's 72 years ago.
Neurodiverse people were also around 72 years ago but frequently they were hidden away in institutions. They didn't "manage" to regulate because they were locked away out of sight.
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Strangely it seems the more screens available the More ND people are diagnosed as well

Wonder how all these ND people who ," need" screens to " regulate," managed before the abundance of them?

Ok.

Have a google then - nobody is stopping you.

Yes, I know autism is lifelong. I am autistic. And screens are a lifesaver to me - I am so much better regulated now I can access a screen when I need to.

Well, there’s long-term stuff, like diet, sleep, exercise (and limited screens!) but also short-term methods.

These have to be age appropriate obvs, but eg

• Naming the emotion ‘I feel anxious’
• Noticing body reactions ‘my jaw is clenched’
• Breath techniques eg slowing breath
• Understanding triggers and naming what’s happening
• ‘Riding’ the emotion and allowing it rather than suppressing it
• Regulating with someone else through body contact or talking through
• CBT techniques like reframing the thought ‘is this actually true’

All tried and tested ways, and surprisingly suitable for smaller children. Can be used if the child is autistic or not.

Lifelong skills, unlike sticking them in front of the TV.

How do you 'teach' emotional regulation? Rather than allowing someone to find techniques for same? Genuine question.

I’d love to see that.

Lots of things might feel ‘helpful’ in quietening down an agitated kid. That isn’t the same as them being useful in the long term.

I won’t derail the thread any more, but just to say: autism is a lifelong condition. Teaching emotional regulation is far more beneficial in the long term than dampening the temporary dysregulation with screens.

Actually, there’s a fair bit of research that shows screens can be very helpful for people who are neurodiverse.

Maybe you should do some reading on the subject before jumping in to criticise.

She has found a way!! And very normal and modern way.

Why do I feel sad? Because you’re not being very understanding.

because many autistic people like to have a routine and if their routine is disrupted then they can become deregulated. She doesn’t say her daughter gets distressed due to not being allowed TV. She said it’s if she can’t watch it as part of this routine.

this is how she regulates. I regulate sometimes by scrolling, watching tv/films (escaping) and even - shock horror - wine!! Some people can regulate using other methods, but screens are common for ND people. I’m not speaking for all.

surely watching a bit of TV as part of the routine that helps her cope with school, is better than her becoming highly distressed and causing harm or trauma and then school avoidance??

everyone is different and this family have a way to manage life.