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Is this rude from a child? Age 6, furious reaction from teacher

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partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:48

My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

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Goldenoldie58 · 04/10/2025 18:33

Speak to the teacher, make sure he/she knows the effect the response has had on your child.... he's only 6 x

marcopront · 04/10/2025 18:31

katepilar · 04/10/2025 18:04

The teacher should be the one to teach the children this.

I think in this scenario the teacher should have responded calmly saing something like Well, thats an interesting point and we can discuss it later. Now I need you to be quiet.

How many times should the teacher respond in this way?
Should she do it for all 30 children?
How long would that take?

Lavenderblue11 · 04/10/2025 18:26

ThankYouNigel · 02/10/2025 22:09

And this discussion right here is the reason why teachers are leaving the profession in droves…parents, enough! Either get a grip over minor incidents/trivial nonsense, or continue to over-analyse every nanosecond of your child’s day, but stop complaining when more teachers leave. Here’s a thought- if you are so distrustful and so perfect in your every interaction with your perfect children, you are free to home educate. Put your money where your mouth is!

This, 💯!

Poodlelove · 04/10/2025 18:17

Can you ask him if other children were being disruptive before this incident.
I have been up the school with a similar complaint about a teacher and found out that my son hadn't been telling the complete truth , although he sounds too young to be spoken to like that.

Goldenoldie58 · 04/10/2025 18:12

He's six ffs .... I work in early years, no matter what we listen to the children, explain the reason for the statement so they understand ... no reason for a teacher to shout like that. Parent needs to talk to teacher

katepilar · 04/10/2025 18:04

Remaker · 02/10/2025 22:53

I think what some people fail to grasp is what might seem adorable in your one on one interaction with your own child is completely unmanageable when the ratio changes to one adult with 25 kids and learning needing to be done.

Your DS just needs to focus more on listening and less on making ‘helpful’ observations. At home you probably find it cute if he corrects you but he needs to learn the difference between home and school. He’ll get there.

The teacher should be the one to teach the children this.

I think in this scenario the teacher should have responded calmly saing something like Well, thats an interesting point and we can discuss it later. Now I need you to be quiet.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 18:00

shortwife · 04/10/2025 17:44

Is nobody else reading the words '6 years old'? Perhaps it was cheeky, perhaps the class had been very 'trying' all day, but they are 6 years old. These are not cocky, hormonal 15 year olds trying to look big in front of their friends. My 9 year old still asks questions like that to me very innocently, with no cheekiness meant.
Definitely speak with the teacher though, there are 2 sides to everything. And young children do need to know when they need to be quieter in class, but shouting is seldom the answer.
And you need to find out why he is so unhappy generally at school.

As a teacher of many, many years, I can assure you that a six year old is quite capable of being cheeky and disruptive. They push their luck in just the same way as teenagers. ANY disruptive behaviour needs stopping so all children can learn. It’s not a big deal!

cardibach · 04/10/2025 17:53

shortwife · 04/10/2025 17:44

Is nobody else reading the words '6 years old'? Perhaps it was cheeky, perhaps the class had been very 'trying' all day, but they are 6 years old. These are not cocky, hormonal 15 year olds trying to look big in front of their friends. My 9 year old still asks questions like that to me very innocently, with no cheekiness meant.
Definitely speak with the teacher though, there are 2 sides to everything. And young children do need to know when they need to be quieter in class, but shouting is seldom the answer.
And you need to find out why he is so unhappy generally at school.

It wasn’t a question.

cardibach · 04/10/2025 17:51

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:12

He wasn't cheeky - he was asking for clarification. I have a 7 year old who is an angel behaviour wise, has never said a thing cheeky to anyone ever and is praised consistently in school - but he needs clarification as he sees everything literally and wouldn't understand exactly what was meant there. Thank f* you aren't a teacher though.

Jesus. No he wasn’t ‘asking’. He didn’t ask a question. He knew he was supposed to stop talking and he chose to try to get one up on the teacher instead.
6 is quite old enough for this. 6 year olds aren't ‘tiny’ or ‘practically babies’.

shortwife · 04/10/2025 17:44

Is nobody else reading the words '6 years old'? Perhaps it was cheeky, perhaps the class had been very 'trying' all day, but they are 6 years old. These are not cocky, hormonal 15 year olds trying to look big in front of their friends. My 9 year old still asks questions like that to me very innocently, with no cheekiness meant.
Definitely speak with the teacher though, there are 2 sides to everything. And young children do need to know when they need to be quieter in class, but shouting is seldom the answer.
And you need to find out why he is so unhappy generally at school.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 04/10/2025 17:32

Sounds like your son was being deliberately cheeky, probably to get a laugh and gain popularity points from his friends. His teacher made his bid for kudos fail and your son ended up looking a bit silly. Not the first to try and won’t be the last but hopefully he won’t do it again. The teacher was asking children to be quiet so they could focus on learning. Just move on as it is a very minor issue and focusing on it blows it out of proportion.

FletchFan · 04/10/2025 17:25

I'm a teacher and really, this was a bit rude and not appropriate at the time. That said, how I'd react to it depends on what mood I'm in. If I've had a tough afternoon or lesson with the kids and my patience was waning, then yes I'd probably pull a child up on this whatever their age.
For this reason, I'd cut the teacher some slack.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2025 17:19

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:07

Aren't you in pain when you hurt yourself? I am...and at 6 years old they mostly cry from pain from hurting themselves.

There is a crossover but no, in pain and injured are not the same thing.

You can be in pain but not injured.
You can be injured but not in pain.
You can also be in pain and injured.

And no, at 6 they can be in pain for many reasons. Being injured is just one.

I'm just amazed at all the adults on here who don't seem to realise that.

marcopront · 04/10/2025 17:18

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:12

He wasn't cheeky - he was asking for clarification. I have a 7 year old who is an angel behaviour wise, has never said a thing cheeky to anyone ever and is praised consistently in school - but he needs clarification as he sees everything literally and wouldn't understand exactly what was meant there. Thank f* you aren't a teacher though.

Would your child take the part about “don’t talk to me unless …..” literally or just the part where he could query the teacher?

sittingonabeach · 04/10/2025 17:17

@AmbeeBambee if he said what was in the opening post he wasn’t asking a question.

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:12

Izzywizzy85 · 02/10/2025 22:07

He was really cheeky and was told off. Of course he’s cried, he didn’t like being told off. Hopefully he will think twice about being rude in future.
Threads like this make me so glad I’m not a teacher.

He wasn't cheeky - he was asking for clarification. I have a 7 year old who is an angel behaviour wise, has never said a thing cheeky to anyone ever and is praised consistently in school - but he needs clarification as he sees everything literally and wouldn't understand exactly what was meant there. Thank f* you aren't a teacher though.

Runrabbitrunrabitrunrunrun · 04/10/2025 17:11

partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:58

I would be happier if I could be reassured that he was being a smart arse and got a deserved ticking off. I’d rather that than worry about disproportionate reactions from teachers who can’t keep their tempers. Is what he said really rude though and not just a literal exploration of what the teacher has said?

He was being a smart arse. You can be in pain and not being injured. The class were obviously being told to be quiet and it was inappropriate to correct the teacher (incorrectly). I'm not surprised she gave the cocky little kid a mouthful. Without context it's impossible to say whether the teachers initial comments about not wanting to hear from them etc were OTT as it could be that the class were being very rowdy and so clear instructions were given and boundaries set

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:07

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Aren't you in pain when you hurt yourself? I am...and at 6 years old they mostly cry from pain from hurting themselves.

AmbeeBambee · 04/10/2025 17:02

partytimed · 02/10/2025 21:48

My DS was at school today and his teacher addressed the class saying “I don’t want to hear from you unless you need the toilet, you’re in pain or injured.” My DS raised his hand and said “I’m pain and injured is kind of the same thing.” Another teacher overheard and shouted at him so much he was crying and still crying about it at bedtime.

obviously I only have his account of the incident so this is all the detail I have. He didn’t think he had said anything wrong. I’ve noticed this year he’s complained of strict scary teachers and he’s becoming anxious about going to school. Would appreciate opinions on whether this apparently very big telling off was justified. He said his friends were comforting afterwards and he was crying and apologising whilst the teacher continued to shout.

My 7 year old is very literal, so will get confused at statements like that and will then say similar types of responses. I don't think its rude at all, I think it makes sense. I also think what the teacher said, was very strange in itself!

cardibach · 04/10/2025 16:38

lilkitten · 04/10/2025 15:43

I would have done the same, wanting a clarification (and also not understanding that I should be quiet and it's not the time to ask). I'm AuDHD and I'd be more keen to get the right understanding, than understand the social situation. They're also only 6, so it seems a bit of an over-reaction from the teacher.

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Which would make sense if he had asked for clarification. He didn’t. He told 5he teacher she was wrong. She wasn’t.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 04/10/2025 16:37

GoodEnough1 · 04/10/2025 15:56

I’m all for discipline with children but this sounds off and was upsetting to read even though I don’t know the little boy. Any teacher discipline which leaves a child reeling and still sobbing at bedtime has completely overstepped the mark and sounds damaging rather than helpful. I would be on the alert big time.

Surely this so subjective.

A lot of children, not that long ago, would have flushed with embarrassment at being told off and hoped their parents never found out as they’d be in big trouble at home.

If a child is never corrected, encouraged to ask questions in all settings and told how highly intelligent they are - they are naturally going to wilt like a heated crisp packet if they are confronted for their behaviour, regardless of how the teacher does this. There’s no need to go overboard and scream in their faces, but they need to learn what is and isn’t socially acceptable for their own good. Teachers shouldn’t be given carte blanch to bully, but they’ll face a lot of challenging ppl out in the real world unless they live in a bubble - which rather goes against the encouragement these parents wish for them to ‘explore’.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 04/10/2025 16:31

CoffeeCantata · 03/10/2025 11:40

I would imagine there's a considerable backstory here!

It sounds as if the teacher had been trying to get the class quiet for some time and that was her final word on the matter, only for Master Annoying to try to be the class joker.

Non-teachers won't understand, however hard they try, the difficulties and subtleties of classroom management. (Anecdote to follow...optional).

One little jokey remark from student can set the whole class off, especially is the child still persists in coming back with another quip. And another 10 mins is wasted.

Anecdote: this concerns an older child (14). He was the son of a friend who had no experience of teaching. Her son was clever and a bit of a handful. He had his phone under the table and the very young female teacher asked 'Josh (nc obvs) what's that in your hand?' Josh replied 'My penis, Miss'. He was bollocked, bollocked again and made to do a Saturday detention in school uniform. This was about 15 years ago, btw.

My friend was indignant. Her son was just making a joke! Hadn't the teacher got a sense of humour? Josh normally got on well with her, so why did she make such a big deal of it? I had to explain that on many levels he was completely out of order. It was an insolent reply, not a joke. Even if it was a joke, it was out of place in the classroom setting - it's not a one-to-one social event, the teacher has her whole class to manage and can't make exceptions to behaviour rules. But most glaringly of all, it was a sexual remark to a young female teacher...would he have done that to a man? Absolutely out of order, and he needed to learn fast that it wasn't acceptable behaviour.

Moral of anecdote: the rules of the classroom are necessarily different to those of home or a night out with your mates.

Your friend sounds like a bellend. She either has little social awareness or thinks the sun shines out her son’s arse and he can do no wrong. Ever.

dontmalbeconme · 04/10/2025 16:21

GoodEnough1 · 04/10/2025 15:56

I’m all for discipline with children but this sounds off and was upsetting to read even though I don’t know the little boy. Any teacher discipline which leaves a child reeling and still sobbing at bedtime has completely overstepped the mark and sounds damaging rather than helpful. I would be on the alert big time.

Or this a disobedient and rude boy who hasn't ever been told no, who is sobbing because he was appropriately chastised for his bad behaviour for the first time in his life and it has come as a shock to him that he isn't going to get away with rudeness and bad behaviour at school.

Regardless of whether he thought pain and injury are the same (they aren't) or he didn't think he was being rude (he was), he must have known that he was being wilfully disobedient when he started talking and asking questions straight after being told not to talk.

GoodEnough1 · 04/10/2025 15:56

I’m all for discipline with children but this sounds off and was upsetting to read even though I don’t know the little boy. Any teacher discipline which leaves a child reeling and still sobbing at bedtime has completely overstepped the mark and sounds damaging rather than helpful. I would be on the alert big time.

lilkitten · 04/10/2025 15:43

Ponderingwindow · 02/10/2025 22:05

It is exactly the kind of clarification a 6yo asd child might make. Calling the child a “smartass” is offensive. Telling the child off is a problem.

a cheeky child would have brushed off a telling off, but a nd child is not going to understand that they did anything wrong. They are legitimately seeking clarification of the teacher’s imprecise language.

I would have done the same, wanting a clarification (and also not understanding that I should be quiet and it's not the time to ask). I'm AuDHD and I'd be more keen to get the right understanding, than understand the social situation. They're also only 6, so it seems a bit of an over-reaction from the teacher.

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